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Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 22, 2005, 01:13:56 PM
Anyone know a good 1X CD Writer to buy and where?
This will ensure no burn problems since my DVD Burners only go minimum 8X  :(
Thanks!
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: rolins on September 22, 2005, 03:49:03 PM
The old plextor (forgot what model) cdrw burners are good and reliable, but they're hard to find especially a 1x speed. An alternative are the older HP cd-writer. Those are frequent on ebay and cheap too. The problem with the older HP cd-writer is many of them lack important features such as over-burn, burn-proof, or SAO.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 22, 2005, 05:10:02 PM
A friend of mine has an old Memorex he can give me that will burn at 1x...those any good?
I used to have a Memorex Cd Reader and it was crap...errors all the time...
He also may have a Plextor...but he is not sure and not sure on the speeds either.
No whe laso has my old HP writer...but if it won't do the overburn, SAO, or burn proof, that won't work either.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: rolins on September 22, 2005, 05:21:55 PM
Quote from: "DrGamer"
A friend of mine has an old Memorex he can give me that will burn at 1x...those any good?
I used to have a Memorex Cd Reader and it was crap...errors all the time...
He also may have a Plextor...but he is not sure and not sure on the speeds either.
No whe laso has my old HP writer...but if it won't do the overburn, SAO, or burn proof, that won't work either.


Never used a Memorex so I can't give an opinion. However, I did manage to track down the Plextor model I used to own. It was a Plextor PX-W1610TA, this was the best cdrw I've ever used. I regret selling it.

http://www.digit-life.com/articles/cdrw9/cdrw-test2k-plextor-w1610ta.html

This model is even better.

http://www.digit-life.com/articles/cdrwtestidep12/cdrw-test-ide-p12-plextor.html
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: SNKNostalgia on September 22, 2005, 06:32:56 PM
Get the TDK VeloCd writer I told you about a little while ago. Cheap and very reliable. The one I have in my 1ghz Pentium 3 with Win98 is the 8x/4x/32x model. I had it for 5 years and it is awesome for slow reliable burns. Too bad the really good dark blue TDK discs aren't made anymore. These were the best discs you could use on non cd-r reading players. I swear the companies are making it more impossible to copy things to run on older stuff these days.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DragonmasterDan on September 22, 2005, 07:47:31 PM
Burning discs at 1X doesn't necessarily mean they will work that much better on a PCE or Duo, just worth noting. Though the lower the speed the better the copy should be, things like the media and the laser of whatever you will be playing it back on are far more important than the type of burner you use. Check used computers shows, a lot of times old CD burners can be found there dirt cheap, I still have a 6X4X32 in use that's capable of burning at 1X, there's a lot of them out there.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 23, 2005, 05:33:21 AM
I would get that TDK Velo Writer if I could find it :)
I can't find one anywhere....
Got a link of one being sold anywhere???
 8
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: SNKNostalgia on September 23, 2005, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: "DrGamer"
I would get that TDK Velo Writer if I could find it :)
I can't find one anywhere....
Got a link of one being sold anywhere???
 8


I know E-bay can be anoying but heres a good high feedback seller in the US. This used model will burn at 1X easily its a 12X/10X/32X. $10 so far and it will most likely sell at that price, at most it would go to $25.

Here: http://cgi.ebay.com/TDK-VELOCD-Internal-CD-Burner-Rewritable-Drive_W0QQitemZ5244308035QQcategoryZ116242QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem  

There are some new ones on E-bay like the 24X/16X/48X models for $20, I am pretty sure they burn at 1X also.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 23, 2005, 11:21:43 AM
Thanks for the info SNKNostalgia...I am an Ebayer and have bought alot there...so time to BID :)

EDIT:
Here: http://cgi.ebay.com/TDK-VELOCD-Internal-CD-Burner-Rewritable-Drive_W0QQitemZ5244308035QQcategoryZ116242QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This item...I asked the guy if it would work with XP...he said prob not.
That true? He also said it will burn at minimum 2X...
Is this the best Cd Writer to get for burning Duo games???
Thanks
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: SNKNostalgia on September 24, 2005, 04:40:48 PM
Just look up TDK's website if they still have info, or google info on it. I am sure it will tell you if it doesn't. When I got my TDK it was in 1999 and they kept making them around the same until 2001. Just had slightly faster speeds. I will look at my drivers and stuff for my TDK to see.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: SNKNostalgia on September 24, 2005, 04:47:46 PM
Yes it will work. Check this link out. http://kbase.tdk.com/display/2n/kb/cat.asp?cid=33588&kb=6302&L1cid=33588&level=2&r=0.5494795#cat_33588

Click on VeloCdwriter internal and then look at the list. Aslo if you go to www.tdk.com (http://www.tdk.com/) you can click and read the info on the model you want to get.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 25, 2005, 05:38:42 AM
Lost that auction  :(
I guess I will try another....

Got a question tho, is there any burners you can buy now at NewEgg that will burn at 1X or 2X for Turbo CD games???
I have an account there and would just as well get it there over EBay...
Thanks!
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: SNKNostalgia on September 25, 2005, 02:03:51 PM
I am not sure. Your best bet is to get a CD-Burner made after Windows XP and before the year 2002. So I guess look for a burner that was released in 2001 pretty much. TDK, Plextor, Yamaha make good burners. Just don't get a cheap generic one and you should be fine. Really most CD-R only burners support 1x burn, its the DVD/CD-R hybrid burners that don't burn at slower speeds.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Michael Helgeson on September 26, 2005, 01:55:23 AM
Samsung does a great new burner that does 2x fine.I have tested this with many Super Cd  games with no problems.It even copied the infamiously uncopiable Cosmic Fantasy 2.Othe rthen that,and Plextor does well at 2 x also.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 26, 2005, 02:57:27 AM
Michael....could you give me a couple model#s? Esp the Samsung that will do the Cosmic Fantasy 2?
And maybe some Plextors that will burn at 2X....
Thanks!
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Michael Helgeson on September 26, 2005, 07:52:31 AM
I know for sure the Plextor 12x does Cosmic Fantasy 2,depending on what your using to read and burn it off with,i.e. Clone Cd,Alcohol 120,Blindread/blindewrite,CD-R Win....
Samsung 32x burners and above do fine.
Also not common,but will copy and burn Cosmic Fantasy 2 is a NEC 12 X burner.The are not many revisions of the speed,usually if they make a new revision,its because of a speed change.The Nec will out do athe Plextor on some things also,but will no tlast as long as Plextor.But if your a Linux freak,Plextor will make it very hard for you to get your burner going,so be warned!!!
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Michael Helgeson on September 26, 2005, 07:56:08 AM
Also only use Long Strategy cd-rs,made in Japan,and not crap C&C MicroMagnetics short strats.Any crap coming from China and Taiwan is to be avoided.Check the cd-r package people.Fuji Film spindles are mostly good,but check first,and Maxell PRO CD-Rs and great!!!
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 26, 2005, 09:49:30 AM
I use Nero or Alcohol to burn...mainly Nero since Alcohol can abort sometimes due to misread.
Never have burned with CDRWIN but I have it as well as clone CD and Blindwrite...which is best for Turbo Duo games? And for a real Duo-R system, not Magic Engine. (Some of my burns work in Magic Engine but not on the Duo R)
If I could see a link to any of these burners you mentioned at NewEgg Michael...I would buy it.

Actually, lemme give you a couple and you can(or someone) let me know if they will work for what I need:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151083

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106258

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106828

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106999
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Michael Helgeson on September 26, 2005, 05:15:38 PM
I never played cd games on Magic Engine.I dont like that emu much.
The software you use will work better on some drives and worse on others.Plextor is your most expensive but best bet.It doesnt really matter what make like I said,just choose the one that you want speed wsie.They all burn at 2x either way.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 26, 2005, 05:21:54 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151083
Michael...
Will that Samsung work?
Or can I have the model # of the one you use since it seems to burn Turbo CD games fine (even Cosmic Fantasy)
The Samsung sounds like a good idea...that one in the link or your model....
Thanks!
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Michael Helgeson on September 26, 2005, 05:22:51 PM
plexwriter 12/10/32a
That burner I know can copy Cosmic Fantasy 2 and it will play back on a real deck.Its very stressful,but it can be done.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 26, 2005, 05:25:06 PM
I think you were posting when I was  :wink:
Could you look at my last post Michael?
Thanks :D
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Michael Helgeson on September 26, 2005, 05:27:44 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-52x32x52-CD-RW-IDE-Drive-w-Nero-Software_W0QQitemZ5272904311QQcategoryZ116239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Michael Helgeson on September 26, 2005, 05:28:38 PM
You cant get the 32x speed Samsung new anymore,its phased out.The new one is fine though,and faster.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 27, 2005, 03:00:31 AM
Faster is not what I want...just the ability to burn at 1X or 2X and PC Engine Games wiht no errors.
Let me know,
Thanks! :D
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Michael Helgeson on September 27, 2005, 03:39:15 PM
New burners will do 2x fine.You have to choose the speed you desire in the program you are using.Side note,if your going to burn at 2x,read it at 2x too.Its best to stick to the same read speeds as possible as the burn speed.slower read speed allows better buffer usage too.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Michael Helgeson on September 27, 2005, 03:40:47 PM
Unless ur like me running a gig of ddr ram.If you run using a gig of ram in your pc,buffer is no longer a issue in cd burning.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 27, 2005, 03:43:37 PM
I have a gig of DDR Ram....so this one will be ok then?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827151083
I am only going ot use it to burn PC Engine Duo-R games for use on the real system.
If so..I will buy it :D
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Michael Helgeson on September 28, 2005, 03:24:49 PM
That pretty much looks fine.You have to realize,the old drives of 8 x and below sucked.About anything new these days that is brand name.Avoid mad dog and oither generics.They suck.
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: DrGamer on September 28, 2005, 03:38:21 PM
OK..this shall be my last post in this...
I am going with your recommendation of a Samsung since you said it is great for PC Engine games...which is what I want it for.
Thanks Michael...I will let you know how it works out :)
Title: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Michael Helgeson on September 28, 2005, 03:45:50 PM
K,take care!
Title: Re: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: Bernie on March 31, 2011, 11:03:49 AM
So, yeah.  I realize this is a VERY old thread, but I am having issues finding a burner that will burn at a slow rate.  I used to have one, BUT..  threw it out about a year ago.  yeah..  dumbass..  Anyway, my ordeal is this.  My Duo will play CDr games that I have burned, cuz I have tried it on the games I burned a few years ago.  Plays em fine.  My thing is this, until I can get certain games, such as Might and Magic III, at a decent price, I am going to play them the cheaper way.  However, my current drive  will not support lower than 10x and it is causing issues with my Duo..  Doesnt like them one damn bit.  So, any help on getting a burner that will support slower burns would be appreciated. 
Title: Re: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: vestcoat on March 31, 2011, 11:45:36 AM
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=9272.msg160786#msg160786

Slower is not always better.  Try a different brand of discs.  Try the slowest speed available on a modern drive and work your way up until you find one that works.  If the system doesn't like x10, try x12 or x16 or x24.
Title: Re: Good 1X CD Burner
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 31, 2011, 12:44:33 PM
Things like this aren't, AFAIK, being made and haven't been in over a decade. I've never owned a CDR drive that would go slower than 4x and yet I've never had an issue. Try different CDs.