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NEC PC-FX => PC-FX Discussion => Topic started by: punistation on June 04, 2002, 11:58:00 PM
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I don't own a PCFX, but I'd like to get what I can out of an incoming PC-FX game through my Win98 PC.
I know there's no working emulator, but what about utilities? I found an audio ripper, but I was hoping someone might know of an image viewer, or a movie ripper (if PC-FX games have movie files. This'll be my first one.)
Are there such programs out there? Ones that don't require some expensive adapter card?
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
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Hey, you're in luck.. there's picture and movie utilities. You can find them at the following URL (in japanese)..
home.highway.ne.jp/soltin/gametool.html (http://home.highway.ne.jp/soltin/gametool.html)
for video, you need to download the movie extractor and batch file (there are specific batch files for each game) which will copy the movie tracks into .mix files on your harddrive. Then you use mixplay to view them or mix2avi to convert them to avi format.
ask away if you need any more help.. i'm sorry that i'm pressed for time now..
-RUiNa
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sorry forgot this one for the mixplay and batch files:
pc-fx.moemoe.gr.jp/mixhokan.html (http://pc-fx.moemoe.gr.jp/mixhokan.html)
-RUiNa
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Let's see...
The 1st converts PCFX to MIX, the 2nd is a MIX player, and the 3rd converts MIX to AVI. Sadly, the very 1st one says I need a PCFX-GA... an adapter card I don't have. That pretty much rules out 2 & 3. Tragic...
The 4th appears to be an image viewer. Believe it or not, this was the 1st place I visited for PCFX utilities before coming here. I downloaded the 4th, but when I tried to unzip it, it said the file was corrupted. I was left with nothing.
...but NOW, I download and unzip it again, and it works! What was wrong the first time? Hmmmph.
Oh well, thanks for linking me there again. Your link was the magic touch that made everything better. I guess the website didn't like strangers, but feels better now it knows I'm from here. (that's the only explanation... right?)
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
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P.S. Thanks for the mixhokan link, but the game I'm getting is Tenchi Muyo... which isn't available on the list. Drat! Thanks anyway!
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Hi,
The video ripping tools and so on do not require the pcfx-ga.. After I sold my first pc-fx I used my plain old PC to keep watching all my pc-fx video files without any trouble at all.. You must've misread or are looking at the wrong tools..
As for Tenchi Muyou, the problem is that that game has no video in it! Well there's an intro but based on the way it looks I'd say its not a .mix file.. so thats why there's no batch..
on a side note about that game.. for anyone that has it on pc-fx, you should try filling up your save-game memory before inserting it in your pc-fx.. This will go to a nice little Washuu OS computer system animation thing where she'll tell you all about the scientific ins and outs for why you can't run the game!
Anime Freak Vol. 3 includes tenchi muyou video and there is a batch file available for this disc as well.
Hope that helps.
-RUiNa
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Hm.. I'm guessing you're a tenchi fan.. If you ever want to discuss tenchi stuff, I'm definitely up for it.. As you can see I know quite a bit about the tenchi content on pc-fx and I know quite a bit about some other rare tenchi stuff..
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I've ripped video from many FX games with those tools also. I didn't know about the audio ripper though... Aaron Nanto
Webmaster Pcenginefx.com
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Well, the 1st file on the SOLTIN page (PCFX->MIX) has at the bottom of it's lil' description "PC-FXGA‚Æmixplay.exe‚ª•K—v‚Å‚·", which means "PC-FXGA & mixplay.exe are required". However, if you say it doesn't need it... well, that's good news indeed.
(I'm a newbie to the PC-FX, but I'm guessing that MIX files are the movie files, ne?)
As for the audio ripper, I found it in my exploration of Japanese pages for PC-FX goodies. Without any games yet, I obviously haven't tested it. If you'd like to have a go, feel free to have a looksie (http://members.optushome.com.au/puni/PCFX2WAV.zip)
I'm going away for the long weekend, starting... pretty much now; but I'd love to talk Tenchi Muyo some more. See you in a few days!
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
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Woops. Broken link. Sorry.
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
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Yay! Tenchi Muyo FX finally arrived! Wai! Wai!
...now if only I had a PC-FX.
Of course, I'd jump for joy if there were any utilities that could help me grab some goodies from it. I can't seem to get the PCFX2WAV program to work, but that's not too suprising. The FXVIEW file would be ideal, but my PC only identifies the game as an audio CD. I know I'm supposed to use CDdump to make a .CDF file from it, but I can't seem to get it running. Could someone tell me how to work it?
If this isn't possible, are there any other PC-FX goodies I can use on this game?
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen Edited by: punistation (http://pub80.ezboard.com/upunistation.showPublicProfile?language=EN) at: 6/10/02 3:34:15 pm
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Jen,
I plan to mess with it this week, so I will let you know what I find. I've been wanting to post info about those utilites on Pcenginefx.com for a while now, but I always seem to be busy....
Aaron Nanto
Webmaster Pcenginefx.com
www.pcenginefx.com (http://www.pcenginefx.com/)
The ultimate resource for NEC console information!
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Thanks for the helping hand, Aaron! I could use all the help I can get!
(Sniff... it's so unfair. The PSX has 50 or so nice utilities. Zophars Domain doesn't even have a PCFX page. I cry.)
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
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The problem is of course that the PC-FX isn't emulated yet. Once that happens (hopefully it does.. for other reasons) we'll end up with a lot of stuff..
The truth is there's a lot of PC-FX stuff hiding about on japanese webpages.. I've found at least 3 homebrew games, another 20 coding demos, and that was only on a cursory search.. Once the emulation happens, a lot of this will make it our way..
I've been trying to get the development software so I can make images of these unreleased softwares to release to everyone.. so far I've only gotten one of the two development discs (and its the one that doesn't have the compiler and cd tools)..
I'm going to make a new post here about something else related to PC-FX emulation..
-RUiNa
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Alrighty, here's the funny thing:
CDdump is the program included with the Image Viewer FXview. What it's meant to do is create a CDF file from PCFX CD's. FXview can open these CDF files, and view the lovely images within.
Sadly, I can't get it to work. But then, I've mentioned that already.
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Now: I've done a lil' internet scouring, and sought out CDF files & CDdump. It turns out, CDdump is a LINUX program, not a WINDOWS program. CDdump is just another CD backup utility, but it's LINUX only.
I thought about partitioning off part of my PC, and setting up LINUX on it... but before I do that, I wanna' put it before you guys.
Has anyone been able to get CDdump to work on their PC?
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
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(This message was left blank) Edited by: punistation (http://pub80.ezboard.com/upunistation.showPublicProfile?language=EN) at: 6/16/02 2:32:04 am
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While I'm at it, here's what happenned when I tried CDdump:
(http://members.optushome.com.au/puni/CDdump.gif)
Of course, it simply stays like that. If there's no PCFX CD in there, it'll tell you such.
And while I'm at it: When I look at the PCFX CD in Win98 Explorer, it only shows an audio file (the one you hear when you put the CD into a CD Player. Y'know, "This is a PCFX game CD, etc..."). HOWEVER, look what I see when I turn on my CD wav/MP3 maker program:
(http://members.optushome.com.au/puni/CDdump02.gif)
Ah-HAH! game data! Something to rip from! (Now, if only I had a program that could DO that...)
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen Edited by: punistation (http://pub80.ezboard.com/upunistation.showPublicProfile?language=EN) at: 6/16/02 2:32:54 am
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CDDump ran for you in the windows command line which means it is not a linux program. Whether it did what you wanted or not is another story.. perhaps you need something more than just the exe in the command line.. perhaps the name of the file you want outputted? format? which drive letter? I haven't used it so I'm not sure..
It's quite normal for windows to only show the audio portion. You can go to drive properties (in some versions of windows) and then pick "Volumes" and you will see a complete list of the tracks on the disc.
NEC uses a proprietary filesystem for their data tracks which means it cannot be read in Windows. The PC-FX-GA is supposed to include software to allow the reading and writing of this NEC format.
Let me know what happens if you get it to work.. Ripping pictures seems cool.
-RUiNa
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Thanks for trying to get this stuff to work. I've still not had time to mess with it yet on my end (http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif) But as far as I remember from messing with it in the past, I've only been able to rip the AVIs from FX titles not the still-frames.. Well, keep at it and when I mess with it on my end I will post what I find... Aaron Nanto
Webmaster Pcenginefx.com
www.pcenginefx.com (http://www.pcenginefx.com/)
The ultimate resource for NEC console information!
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Well, I finally got CDdump to work. It was a matter of figuring out the commandline. Sure enough, I got myself a 500MB CDF file of my PC-FX game (and a 128MB file for disc 02)
Sadly, when I loaded it into FXview, it couldn't find any images. It kept looking and looking, but eventually finished with no result. (It says the program looks for images, then stops searching when it finds one. Left-click to continue).
Tragic... tragic...
I guess my ONLY hope now is to pray for the successful (and very hasty indeed) completion of the 1st PC-FX emulator.
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
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Wai~iiiiiiiiitaminnit.
If there's no working emulator... and no image extraction utilities... how is it you guys have Tenchi Muyo FMV & Gameplay (http://www.pcenginefx.com/PC-FX/pc-fx_world_-_photo_gallery_-_140.html) images on the website?
(and why haven't I realised this until now...?)
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
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LOL....it's not magic...I can record any FMV or video source into my machines at home with my video capture card, and still frames just as easy (http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif) Aaron Nanto
Webmaster Pcenginefx.com
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The ultimate resource for NEC console information!
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What's this?! I come back after almost a month, and STILL no working PC-FX emulator?!
Honestly, what am I paying you for?
(I'm sure you'd say I'm not paying you at all, but I'm talking in terms of life. You see, I've saved your life on 3 seperate occasions so far. I went back in time and prevented your death, thus creating an alternate timeline and saving your life. The last time; you were eaten by a pack of wild zebra taking revenge on the world. All I ask in return is a working emulator, or at least a partially working emulator so I can grab the images from my TENCHI MUYO FX game, but no~ooooo...)
You better pull up your socks and start wit' da hardcore programming, buddy boy... or I will hunt you down, grab your arm in a heavily-populated public shopping center...and cry.
...very loudly.
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen Edited by: punistation (http://pub80.ezboard.com/upunistation.showPublicProfile?language=EN) at: 7/16/02 9:36:02 pm
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Hey now...be nice (http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif) I'm getting updated info on the emu hopfully this week, but we are a LONG time from a working emu yet... Aaron Nanto
Webmaster Pcenginefx.com
www.pcenginefx.com (http://www.pcenginefx.com/)
The ultimate resource for NEC console information!
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I realise that buying a PC-FX is the only way to see the goodies on my TENCHI MUYO FX game (what with no FX utilities working for TM!)... but what're the ways I can get the audio/visual goodness onto my PC?
One way I think works is a Video Card with that funky VIDEO-IN hole. A 'capture card' I think it's called. How would I get that to work? Do I plug the PC-FX into my TV by way of VCR, record onto VHS while I'm playing, then plug the VCR into the VIDEO-IN and record the VHS? Is that how it works?
Recording onto VHS, then VHS to PC, sounds pretty low quality. Is there anything better?
Howazabout those funky PCFX-GA cards? What exactly do they do? Do they allow plugging the PC-FX into your computer, and playing it using the PC Monitor? That sounds nice, because I can simply take screen captures (They'd be good digital quality too). But then, there's two types of GA cards, right? One which won't work on a PC, and one that does, ne? (PC9800 & DOS/V I think they're called)
GA cards sound expensive though...
Are there any others ways to get PC-FX goodness onto my PC? (an emulator or image-ripper utility would be ideal, but I don't think they'll be around anytime soon. *cries*)
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
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You can put the video from the PC-FX out directly into the capture card on the pc. no need for a VCR or a TV. most capture card software will display what's coming into it in a window on your pc monitor. So with a capture card you can play any system on a window on your pc and record it using the capture card software as well.
It seems you found the major cache of PC-FX utilities so if none of those worked on tenchi then you're out of luck.
The FX-GA cards are meant as a developer kit so its way overboard. It's basically a pc-fx on a card but I imagine it has video out to go to a television and will not play on your pc.
On average the PC-FX is going for around $180 on ebay (thats what i paid) including a pad and at least one game. It's a pretty good deal considering.. and for tenchi fanatics, there's the Tenchi Muyou FX 2-disc game plus the tenchi stuff on Anime Freak Vol. 3 (you can watch this tenchi video on your pc using mixplay, etc.).. Neither of these games is available for another system as far as I know.
However for the biggest selection of Tenchi Muyou software, I recommend the Sega Saturn. There's 4 games and an info disc out from the Tenchi series and another 2-3 games from the magical girl pretty sammy series.
About 2/3 of those exist on the playstation.
There's also a decent tenchi game for the turboduo and a great tenchi rpg (translated to english versions exist) for the SNES/SFC.
-RUiNa
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Thanks for the info, Ruru~san.
Yeah, I've gone through the utilities. This entire thread is a testimony to my failure on that one. My best bet was the Image-viewer, but it couldn't find anything on the TM! CD's. I am a TM! fanatic, so I really want to play the FX game. (It's just sitting around, collecting dust)
Yeah, most TM! games appear on the Saturn. I've got quite a few, spanning accross multiple systems. I grab what I can from 'em, and put them on my Homepage (Feel free to drop by if you like TM! goodies! As surreal as it feels to think this, I honestly believe I am the greatest source of TM! games n' goodies in the western world.).
The PC-FX stuff however is an unknown to me. What exactly is on the Anime Flick #03 CD? Is it a game? Sounds like a movie clip to me. Is it an actual episode? Is it an original, or just one of the OAV's?
I think I may have the opportunity to buy a PC-FX tonight, but it looks like the shipping will be as much if not more than the cost of the PC-FX itself! *cries again*
sigh... All the good stuff is always on another continent. As a veteran importer, I can say without a doubt: Importing sucks.
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
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I missed out on the Ebay auction. The Shipping cost was just too much.
*cries*
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
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Just keep your eye on ebay.
I bought mine on there for around $180 (It ended at $97 and the shipping was $83!!!!) They usually end cheap like that when you know the shipping is going to be high.
There's no getting around that. If you find a domestic seller, someone's going to jack the price up to $180 + a small shipping charge..
BTW I really like your website (I'm a tenchi fanatic too.. hardcore).. Have you thought about putting up original scans (in japanese) ?
-RUiNa
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Original scans?
Well, I'm not quite sure of what. I did scan and upload a whole bunch've never-before-seen images from the Naoko Novels (novels written by original scriptwriter of OAV1-6 & movie 02), but they're over at the Aeka Fan Club Message Board.
Yeah, that's actually a good idea. I think I'll link to the specific AFC pages from my FUN STUFF page, just like the 4-koma manga stuff. Thanks for being my muse, Ruru~san!
Kisses XXOOXX
Jen
P.S. I want the goodies locked within the TM! FX game SO much. Anyone willing to sell me their PC-FX? For maybe... $40? (Jen blinks eyes and makes sad pathetic expression to gain pity from PC-FX owners)
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hey guys don't give it up !!!! i discovered this site today cause i was loocking for pcfx isos (by the way if someone could help me about that ... (http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif) ) and ended on your post. i've been to the japanese pages with the tools on and just didn't understood anything at all.... i don't have any programming experience... all i can do is clicking on a button and hope it works. but if someone explains things to me clearly, step by step... then maybe... so please could you try to make a short but clear guide about the pcfx video/audio/pictures ripping ?? (especially the video...). that would be nice. (http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif) (congratulation about being so persistant punistation !! ^ ^ )