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Title: interesting rgb box
Post by: soop on June 18, 2012, 09:20:29 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEC-AV-BOX-Jouez-en-RGB-avec-votre-console-NEC-PC-Engine-Coregrafx-Sgrafx-/150839685837?pt=FR_Jeux_Vid%C3%A9o_Autres_Accessoires&hash=item231ebef2cd

mmust be unofficial
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: SuperDeadite on June 18, 2012, 09:23:19 PM
Looks very French.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: grimm on June 18, 2012, 11:31:44 PM
That guy does all sorts of mods on systems he sells in his store, and yes he is from france. He used to do mods on comission but claims he's stopped since his store takes too much time.

Ive bought an RGB-modded 3DO from him in the past, and his website is a nice showcase of mods he's done for various systems. I like that he actually made a new dustflap for the region modded Pal snes, but seems he no longer even widens the slot on those he sells on ebay.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: Ji-L87 on June 19, 2012, 12:59:43 AM
That looks interesting, too bad it won't work on a Duo.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: Frank_fjs on June 19, 2012, 01:44:08 AM
Looks very appealing to me. It is nicely presented but what do you guys think about the price? Seems I could buy an internally RGB modded system for not much more. Also kind of restricting in that you can't use it for CD based gaming.

Wasn't there someone here, from the UK I believe, who was producing a similar thing (albeit not as well presented) for a lot cheaper?

I bet one of the technical gurus here could whip up the same thing minus the flashy case for around $20. How involved is the RGB amp for a PC Engine?
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: grimm on June 19, 2012, 06:37:13 AM
otaku store is abit expensive overall id say..
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: GohanX on June 19, 2012, 06:50:15 AM
True, but that's still really cool.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: Black Tiger on June 19, 2012, 07:28:29 AM
I would gladly buy this if I could trust that I'd be able to get component from it.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: SignOfZeta on June 19, 2012, 08:41:24 AM
That is really f*cking cool. I would never buy it though since its Core-only.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: HercTNT on June 19, 2012, 07:08:23 PM
I have built several of these, they are not that hard to make. My only problem was sourcing a reliable connector, a problem i still have not fixed. Modifying it to work on a tg16 is as easy as cutting off the tabs on the side of the connector with a hack saw blade. I sent prototype hardware to steve, and surely he could use his encoder chip to add any kind of output you would want on it. If anyone can source the proper connector i could build that very device for much cheaper.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: Frank_fjs on June 19, 2012, 08:21:41 PM
I have built several of these, they are not that hard to make. My only problem was sourcing a reliable connector, a problem i still have not fixed. Modifying it to work on a tg16 is as easy as cutting off the tabs on the side of the connector with a hack saw blade. I sent prototype hardware to steve, and surely he could use his encoder chip to add any kind of output you would want on it. If anyone can source the proper connector i could build that very device for much cheaper.


Re the connector, what about using hard drive header plugs? Something along these lines: http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4283.0

If you could whip something like that up at an affordable price, I'd buy it from you in an instant. I'm dying to play my PCE in RGB.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: HercTNT on June 20, 2012, 07:58:52 AM
This is what i have made so far, but its not perfect. I have sent prototypes to steve for evaluation. He believes it's workable. I can only build these in composite out. Steve can build them with everything including the kitchen sink. I would be more then willing to help, but if steve wants to take the reigns on this he can add it to his lexicon of services. Such a device can be built to hold every connector you could possibly want. I'm sure if there were enough people interested he might take a look at it.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: soop on June 21, 2012, 02:34:52 AM
This is what i have made so far, but its not perfect. I have sent prototypes to steve for evaluation. He believes it's workable. I can only build these in composite out. Steve can build them with everything including the kitchen sink. I would be more then willing to help, but if steve wants to take the reigns on this he can add it to his lexicon of services. Such a device can be built to hold every connector you could possibly want. I'm sure if there were enough people interested he might take a look at it.


I'm definitely interested!  :D
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: HercTNT on June 21, 2012, 05:11:21 PM
I still dont have a reliable source for a single piece connector. Anyone needing rgb, would need steve to make this thing. Like i said, it would be up to him, and there would have to be enough interest. As far as an rca unit goes, i could make it, but it all hinges on the connector.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: Frank_fjs on June 21, 2012, 07:36:10 PM
I've contacted mamejay (he's a member here, local to me and good at console modding) and he reckons he can whip up something similar for a lot cheaper. It won't look as pretty as that expensive eBay one and will be using PC header pins for the connection to the console, but it will provide me with a nice RGB signal so I'm happy.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: HercTNT on June 21, 2012, 09:19:08 PM
wipping up an external rca jack really is nothing. I'm not sure about an external rgb hookup. Then again i'm not familiar with rgb. I thought rgb modding was something you needed to do internally. At any rate, the original device i made came in a little black box designed to plug into the back of the TG16 and look official. When you turned on the turbo it also gave you a power light. Steve helped me with the wiring and it worked, sorta. My connector design was just not reliable. one day i hope to change that.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: Frank_fjs on June 21, 2012, 09:28:43 PM
Re gaining RGB from the expansion port, no modding of the console is required. The PC Engine already outputs an RGB signal, you just need to tap into it and amp it up. Building an external amp isn't that difficult or expensive.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: Shadow on March 12, 2013, 08:36:39 AM
hi guys, any news concerning this "mod"... I just bought the AV Box, so I will see :)
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 12, 2013, 09:56:35 AM
So...you bought it, but you're asking us for news?
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: Shadow on March 12, 2013, 12:15:30 PM
yeah, friend of mine sold it... googled it, bought it hoping it would work to my expectation... nobody has it yet?

bought it, to use it on my cores, have 2 core I's which are already "original" rgb from Switzerland/France, but have several white cores around with no cables :(
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 12, 2013, 12:34:24 PM
I don't think anyone else here bought it since there are much cheaper alternatives, ones that actually work with CD systems.

If you're actually paying in Euros it will make more finiacial sense, but still...not having CDROM2 is a %100 deal breaker for me, personally.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: Shadow on March 12, 2013, 10:40:30 PM
easy... just wanted to connect my white cores, and for that it serves its purpose...

can you give me a link to the alternative solutions?
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: soop on March 13, 2013, 06:18:03 AM
I don't think anyone else here bought it since there are much cheaper alternatives, ones that actually work with CD systems.

If you're actually paying in Euros it will make more finiacial sense, but still...not having CDROM2 is a %100 deal breaker for me, personally.

Nah man, I love teh hueys.  It's most of what I own.  I do own a super CD ROM, but If I had to wrap it up and put it away for a year I'd get by.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: SignOfZeta on March 13, 2013, 08:13:13 AM
easy... just wanted to connect my white cores, and for that it serves its purpose...

can you give me a link to the alternative solutions?

Well, if you just want composite there is already an OEM solution from NEC called the AV Booster. For this price you could even get a CDROM2, or at least a broken one, which also has composite.

For RGB there isn't anything official, but there are many many ways to make and install an RGB amp for about $10 in parts.

This is probably the best solution for people who don't tinker and need RGB, it's just that the price could be better. You can probably get an entire white PCE pre-modded for €80.
Title: Re: interesting rgb box
Post by: Shadow on March 13, 2013, 08:38:05 AM
easy... just wanted to connect my white cores, and for that it serves its purpose...

can you give me a link to the alternative solutions?

Well, if you just want composite there is already an OEM solution from NEC called the AV Booster. For this price you could even get a CDROM2, or at least a broken one, which also has composite.

For RGB there isn't anything official, but there are many many ways to make and install an RGB amp for about $10 in parts.

This is probably the best solution for people who don't tinker and need RGB, it's just that the price could be better. You can probably get an entire white PCE pre-modded for €80.

True. I have several AV Boosters, but looking for RGB... well actually have some modded AV Boosters which output RGB, but wanted something just plug and play :)

RGB Amp Mod for $10? well, looks like I have to google it :)

I have enough hardware already, but you can't have enough PCE's :)