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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Discussion => Topic started by: jc78_2005 on July 21, 2012, 09:00:51 AM
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ok, now that i have sampled a few games (few burnt cd games) im clearly going to stay with the tg/pce stuff, so the question is, how many stil luse the turbocd system vs the duo? i already have the itch for the duo set , its just soo sleek looking, however space ,nore funds allow for both,so at somepoint should i sell the cd setup and jump to the duo? im sure im not the first to face this diliema lol.
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I use the Turbo Grafx 16/CD combo because I like how it looks (and it was free). Screw the people who say system card this or that. I leave it plugged in--if I want to play a hucard game, I'll simply pop it out.
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ok, now that i have sampled a few games (few burnt cd games) im clearly going to stay with the tg/pce stuff, so the question is, how many stil luse the turbocd system vs the duo? i already have the itch for the duo set , its just soo sleek looking, however space ,nore funds allow for both,so at somepoint should i sell the cd setup and jump to the duo? im sure im not the first to face this diliema lol.
It's really a personal choice. :) I personally like the Duo set-up, but am in the process of getting a TG-16/CD set-up as well. Most likely I will mainly play on the Duo, just cause I like it. It is certainly a space saver when it comes to US systems. Now, should you sell the CD set-up? I certainly would not. Keep it man, cause you will probably regret selling it. Just save your funds, and keep an eye out here in the forums for a decent priced Duo. Trust me, they pop up. I have bought a few right here in these forums in the past year.
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haha right, well i like the looks of both, and yeah id be tied to system card 1( i actually like altered beast) and the arcade card at some point anyway lol
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ok, now that i have sampled a few games (few burnt cd games) im clearly going to stay with the tg/pce stuff, so the question is, how many stil luse the turbocd system vs the duo? i already have the itch for the duo set , its just soo sleek looking, however space ,nore funds allow for both,so at somepoint should i sell the cd setup and jump to the duo? im sure im not the first to face this diliema lol.
It's really a personal choice. :) I personally like the Duo set-up, but am in the process of getting a TG-16/CD set-up as well. Most likely I will mainly play on the Duo, just cause I like it. It is certainly a space saver when it comes to US systems. Now, should you sell the CD set-up? I certainly would not. Keep it man, cause you will probably regret selling it. Just save your funds, and keep an eye out here in the forums for a decent priced Duo. Trust me, they pop up. I have bought a few right here in these forums in the past year.
right, well it wouldnt be anything i would do right now thats for sure, im loving it! having both does for sure seems like the best option,speaking of decent prices, what is a decent price on an arcade card , and a system 1 card?
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system 1 card as in 1.0?
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system 1 card as in 1.0?
thats it. you have to have it, in order to play altered beast properly. on cd.
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Both!
I currently play US HuCards on my original TG16, and Jap HuCards/CDs on my PC Engine Duo. However, eventually I want to upgrade my TG16 with the CD attachment, and at some point I want a US Turbo Duo, but Duo Rs look so sweet too...
Bottom line, you cant have too many NEC systems!
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If you want my opinion, get a Duo-R, then get a chopsado and viola! you can play U.S games on your pce console. Besides, Duo-Rs are cheaper than the U.S Duos and are better built. After you do that, you probably want to get the caps replaced (or if they have been already done a bonus) just to be safe, you really don't want your Duos to start to crap out. If you can afford it, get a supergrafx with the super cd attachment along with a arcade card duo and then you can play everything official PCEwise! Anyway, you got many options to choose from.
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system 1 card as in 1.0?
thats it. you have to have it, in order to play altered beast properly. on cd.
so you're saying altered beast only works on system card 1.0?
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system 1 card as in 1.0?
thats it. you have to have it, in order to play altered beast properly. on cd.
so you're saying altered beast only works on system card 1.0?
Yes,it only works properly with system card 1.0, you can play it with others, as long as you dont want to turn into the beast lol, once you change into the beast the screen stops scrolling and you cant progress any further.
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yes those duo-r's are sure a sexy lil beast lol , i always thought the supergrafx is just awesome looking, however i cant say I like the looks of it with the supercd attached, so many options,, sooo little money.
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If you already have a US Turbo CD setup and it works, I'd suggest finding a Duo-R or RX system. That way you can play just about everything US and JPN and you have backup in case your Turbo CD decides to fail (which happens WAY too often)
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If you want my opinion, get a Duo-R, then get a chopsado and viola! you can play U.S games on your pce console. Besides, Duo-Rs are cheaper than the U.S Duos and are better built. After you do that, you probably want to get the caps replaced (or if they have been already done a bonus) just to be safe, you really don't want your Duos to start to crap out. If you can afford it, get a supergrafx with the super cd attachment along with a arcade card duo and then you can play everything official PCEwise! Anyway, you got many options to choose from.
They may be cheaper...but certainly not better built. :)
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OP - save your money and put it into games. Duo's maneuver discs a bit faster, but TGCD's seem to speed up once they get their gears replaced. Both are equally fun.
They may be cheaper...but certainly not better built. :)
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Yeah they are.
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Duo-Rs have not exhibited the failure rate that regular Duos have. But it has been pointed out that the PCB used in the original Duo is of much higher quality than the ones used in R/RX units.
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If you want my opinion, get a Duo-R, then get a chopsado and viola! you can play U.S games on your pce console. Besides, Duo-Rs are cheaper than the U.S Duos and are better built. After you do that, you probably want to get the caps replaced (or if they have been already done a bonus) just to be safe, you really don't want your Duos to start to crap out. If you can afford it, get a supergrafx with the super cd attachment along with a arcade card duo and then you can play everything official PCEwise! Anyway, you got many options to choose from.
They may be cheaper...but certainly not better built. :)
Trust me, I had a duo of broken duos, one I traded off to Keith Courage and the other I repaired myself. My Duo-R on the other hand, has never had a problem. I know with the U.S Duos (and maybe the original Japanese Duos) the problems with the caps start happening due to the fact that its got a headset jack too close to the main capacitors or something on the lines of that. I'm pretty sure there are other members on this forum who can go into greater detail on this but to be safe get a Duo-R. You'll still have to get the caps replaced as preventative measure and there are plenty people on these forums who will do it for a small fee.
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Its not so much they are better build, exactly, like how a Mercedes is better built than a Dodge, its just that the black Duos had a bad batch of caps. If the wind had been blowing the other direction or whatever this problem wouldn't have happened, or maybe the Duo Rs might have been affected instead, but its not the design or build quality that makes the caps leak all their shit over the board and kill it.
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I thought it was a two-part problem: bad caps + audio circuits too close to the heat sinks. Does this info still hold true?
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=665.msg3306#msg3306
And can anyone elaborate on the lenses? Any difference in the failure rate of the lens between the Duo and Duo-R? Consensus was the Duo-R was less picky about what kind of discs it played, IIRC.
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really no they are not
the tg16 and duo-r are build on low end non critical use only boards, but the black duo (US and JP) are built an aircraft grade materials (except the SMD aluminum caps)
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...but the black duo (US and JP) are built an aircraft grade materials
IIRC, Steve from TZD once reported a Duo that still functioned after being thrown off a 3-5 story building - now we know why!
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hmm soo ,if i get a duo, the black models, either us or jp is the way to go, just get a fresh cap kit.
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If you already have a working tg16+cd there's no point in gettting a US duo. Save the money and get a PCE duo so you can play Japanese games and have a dependable system.
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If you already have a working tg16+cd there's no point in gettting a US duo. Save the money and get a PCE duo so you can play Japanese games and have a dependable system.
This! The Turbografx and CD unit just look awesome. AND, most people are more freaked out by it than the Duo because it looks so alien to them. Cracks me up at times peoples reactions to this stuff.
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If you already have a working tg16+cd there's no point in gettting a US duo. Save the money and get a PCE duo so you can play Japanese games and have a dependable system.
well i can play the JP games now my tg is region modded, wow i opened a can of worms didnt I? lol
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haha
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If you already have a working tg16+cd there's no point in gettting a US duo. Save the money and get a PCE duo so you can play Japanese games and have a dependable system.
This! The Turbografx and CD unit just look awesome. AND, most people are more freaked out by it than the Duo because it looks so alien to them. Cracks me up at times peoples reactions to this stuff.
I use lots of different hardware because it is fun for me: TG-16 + Booster, TG+CD, PCE, PCE+SCD, TurboDUO, DUO.
I still use my TG+CD, but I've been using PCE+SCD slightly more (I tend to play a lot of Japanese HuCards).
(1) TG+CD = awesome (if unappreciated) aesthetic beauty*. Proudly use that beast. To play audio CD's, you don't have to turn on the TV/monitor, you simply use the buttons (LED displays tracks). Of course, you folks might not even use CD's anymore...but old fogies like me do. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
(2) The footprint of the DUO is not significantly better than the TG+CD. The main advantage of the DUO is when you have limited VERTICAL height...loading/unloading CD's is easier when the CD cover opens fully.
*I know I'm in the minority when it comes to appreciating the aesthetics of TG-16 hardware. At least a few folks here dig it. Usually 99% deride it (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgsad.png)
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Agree 100% on the looks of the TG16+CD attachment. I thought this combo looked sooo cool back in 1990. I wanted a CDRom so bad back then, but at only 11 years old, the $400 price tag was a bit out of reach.
Even though I have a PCE Duo that I play SCDs on now, I just bought a CDRom for my original TG16 and am having it gone through by Chop5 so its trouble free. My TG16 has waited 23 years to be made "whole" by this attachment... I can't wait to put it all together and pop in Ys Book 1 & 2 and fire it up. It'll look so badass next to my Duo!
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If you already have a working tg16+cd there's no point in gettting a US duo. Save the money and get a PCE duo so you can play Japanese games and have a dependable system.
well i can play the JP games now my tg is region modded, wow i opened a can of worms didnt I? lol
You did once you found out how a good deal of hucards that didn't make it here.Still if you ask me what's my favorite model is,the duo-r from it's design stand point.I have a (TG16+Turbo CD) as well but it has become more of a backup unit for use.
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Get both, you can't go wrong.
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Also the TG16/CD is in the shape of a "T"!
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I totally love my TurboGrafx 16 Cd unit, and with the help of some members here I was finally able to start playing my games.
Thanks guys.
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Also the TG16/CD is in the shape of a "T"!
haha ya know it is pretty awesome looking, shaped like a T and all lol. i think i have decided to just stay with the Original setup, so far its worked great for me, audio and all, even with burnt games, no issues. that says alot. mine was manufactured in September 1989 and after some new gear grease, runs like a top. that say alot!
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I know my Turbo Grafx CD unit will have to be serviced in the next year or so (running great right now, but doesn't hurt to get a tune-up!)
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I know my Turbo Grafx CD unit will have to be serviced in the next year or so (running great right now, but doesn't hurt to get a tune-up!)
well yeah, just like a car, after a few thousand miles, she needs a lil care lol.
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The Duo R is the best looking console I've seen, and are more reliable.
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I say take your time, do some research to save some money and buy both !!! Their are plenty of people here that will help you out if you take the time to ask around ..
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I've got both. I use my Duo-R as my main gaming rig and the briefcase setup as a back-up.
I didn't intend on owning both, but when I first got the itch to delve into the unfamiliar world of the PC Engine I ended up grabbing a white PC Engine console as they look so darn sexy. At this stage I had little knowledge about PC Engine hardware, it's not an easy thing to work out when you're new to it all and I didn't even consider the CD side of things. Already owning a HuCard only console I really didn't see the point in investing in a Duo, I came across a cheap IFU-30 so I grabbed it. Took me a while to find a working CDROM2 unit at a realistic price but eventually found one and pounced.
Years later I couldn't fight the urge to obtain a Duo so I did. Mainly got it for the convenience factor and now use it as my full-time gaming rig. I'd never sell my interface unit though, just too hard to come across them in working condition.
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Ha. I have nothing to say because I said it three or four years ago.
UPDATE: I'm so anal, I had to add the word I omitted a month ago. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
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After a lot of problems with my black TurboDuo US over the past 6 years... I still say go with it. As soon as you get one, send it off for a complete cap replacement and laser adjustment. Costs like $30-$40. Mine is also region and S-video/AV jack modded. The region mod is the pricey part. Even so, it ran me up $100 in the long run. Totally worth it.
Only problem you may run into over the years after the cap replacement is replacing the lens after heavy disc or CDR use. HOP-M3 lens replacements aren't all too hard to get and costs $20. I bought two of them just in case. Considering how much black US TurboDuos sell for... spending a little money to insure it's function is the way to go.
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prices have gone up some (you wont find a HOP-M3 for $20, but $25-$45)