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Non-NEC Console Related Discussion => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Nando on August 13, 2012, 05:51:32 AM
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even with a docking station and a joystiq....$200 is rather pricey.
http://kotaku.com/5934106/the-neo-geo-returns-this-december-for-200
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I think it's a neat idea and it looks like a decent number of games included. I'll admit I'm not really versed in the NG...how is that game selection compared to the overall library?
Considering that it's a full handheld console (looks like a decent build too, but who knows) plus a home dock and an arcade stick, it seems a little pricey but not "WTF" priced. To me anyway.
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I thought originally it was rumored to be twice that much, so $200 doesn't actually sound too bad.
I wonder if it's an advanced console that they could make new games for as well.
Sengoku 4 anyone!??!
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neo geo always costs more. not too bad but still pricey. will it plug into the tv if you wanted?
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neo geo always costs more. not too bad but still pricey. will it plug into the tv if you wanted?
According to the article, yes. Looks like the handheld plugs into a dock which has a video-out to hook up to the TV.
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let the french gobble it up!
The docking station supposedly has TV out yes.
A Q&A session http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/28/snk-playmore-usa-tackles-your-neogeo-station-questions/ ( a year old one at that)
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If the emulation is accurate and the joysticks of decent quality, that doesn't look so bad for getting into NeoGeo legitimately. The portable part does nothing for me, though, as most titles are more fun two-player.
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I would love to own something neo geo because of the awesome games! But what the f*ck...
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beside that that thing never will see the real sunlight, I don't consider all the stuff for 200 bucks anything just near to "pricey".
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I don't see how this is expensive at all. You get a full joystick with the damned thing even.
The big question is if its actually a piece of junk or not. Will the emulation be good? Will the stick be badly made? And the big one, is it possible to add games? I'm much more worried about that than the price, and I already have an MVS.
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If it has AV out and I can play more games I will probably get one. This would b perfect to take over to a friends house or on vacation and plug into a TV to play some magical drop in the hotel.
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Oh shit! I thought the console/docking station and classic style controller were just there for the image. That's actually not that bad, but if you already own a ps3, wii, 360, laptop with tv-out, this is kinda pointless. So you can play the games on the go with the neo-geo x, and when you get home just pop it in the console? It's a nifty idea. This has been talked about months ago, but I thought it was just the handheld. Is this actually by SNK Playmore?
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How much would those games cost all together as Virtual Console/PSN releases?
Also, for comparison, an AES with no games is worth at least $150, and it certainly doesn't have HDMI output.
Unless this thing has something wrong with it, I'm totally getting one.
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hopefully it has the clicky dpad like the NGPC
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$200 might seem a bit steep, but this could be might be winner for someone who has never owned NG stuff and wants to experience it without shelling out, let's face it, a buttload of money, on a system and games. Especially if space is at a minimum and they don't have room for a bunch of giant carts. As a bonus, it doubles as a handheld system for on-the-go playing.
Many of these games might be available on the Wii VC, but the arcade stick is where it's at, and how many people have one for their Wii?
Ignoring the current prices of AES systems and carts for a minute, how much does just a consolized MVS go for?
I'll be curious to see if they offer more games for it down the road. I also think a big part of the value will come down to the build quality. The fact that it appears to be official hardware, as opposed to some cheap Yobo knock-off like those portable NES/SNES units, could be a good sign.
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its got an SD card and it may or may not connect to NeoGeo station service.
I bet you they sell it with a mini joystiq replica, not a full sized one.
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Just buy the neo geo comp for ps2 or Xbox. $20. Done.
The games were never that good IMO.
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Ignoring the current prices of AES systems and carts for a minute, how much does just a consolized MVS go for?
It varies. If you go high end with the Analogue Interactive, it'll set you back quite a bit. If you get a less extravagant one, it can cost less.
I got lucky and got a consolized 4 slot for $400 earlier this year. If you aren't such a huge Neo Geo fan as I am, I wouldn't recommend any CMVS or AES, though.
This new Neo Geo X sounds interesting. I doubt I'll get it this year, but if the word of mouth is good, maybe I'll get it next year.
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Just buy the neo geo comp for ps2 or Xbox. $20. Done.
And don't forget to buy a PS2 or Xbox and a joystick and a Dingoo or whatever for portable use.
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its got an SD card and it may or may not connect to NeoGeo station service.
I bet you they sell it with a mini joystiq replica, not a full sized one.
SNK was selling full size AES sticks for PS2 just a few years ago. If they wanted to sell a full sized one they certainly could. I like the AES stick quite a bit, it's not exactly a HRAP or anything. It's not that expensive to make.
Btw, for comparison, the final US home carts were selling for over $350 each when they were released. Now does $200 seem like a lot? Also, the 3DS XL will be $200 when it comes out as well, and thats guaranteed to sell millions of units so Nintendo gets a volume discount these guys can only dream about. An unsubsidized iPhone is $700.
Btw, Tommo still exists?
Also, I assume this picture isn't to scale. If it is then the portable Neo will be HUGE. I'd be fine with that, personally.
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I'm very excited about this, Be awesome to play Neo Geo games on the go then be able to play on the home TV. I was one of those kids that always wanted a Neo Geo but my parents wasent gonna drop $1000 on a system and games. So to me this is the only way to finally own one. Besides I'm curious how much new games will run or what games will be released at system launch Dec 6.
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I want one!
some more pics below with AV out and micro usb plug, sd card slot...
It looks iPhone-ish
I used to have a neo geo pocket color and I loved the controls/joystick on it!
(http://i.imgur.com/JxCW5.jpg)
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wow, it does look very iphone ish. But you can't compare the two, this is a niche market item. I'll hold off final judgement though.
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$200 really isn't sounding bad to me, maybe it's the nostalgia of the Neo Geo? :-k
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I bet the emulation scene will get on this. TurboGrafx games on this? I'm in.
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Any technical info on this? Is it just some rebranded dingoo or similar, emulating the neogeo, or did they clone the hardware?
I'm guessing it's just an average emulator with a (cheap) plastic shell to interface with a TV and some flimsy joysticks. The shape of the console/joys and neo geo logos all over everything will justify the $200 price long enough for them to turn a profit.
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This is made by Tommo Inc which has partnered with SNK to make this device. So in a weird way, it is an official SNK neo-geo product.
http://www.retrogamingroundup.com/images/news/2012/newneogeo.htm
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I am excited for this and will definitely get one if the build quality is high. I just wish that there was a way to play two players when hooked to a TV. I am guessing that the portable unit needs to dock in the system, which would mean you could not use it for controller #2?
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I am excited for this and will definitely get one if the build quality is high. I just wish that there was a way to play two players when hooked to a TV. I am guessing that the portable unit needs to dock in the system, which would mean you could not use it for controller #2?
^exactly what i was thinking also. Im sure they sell extra controllers for $$. I see 2 controller ports on the dock. I think the whole point of the dock is 2 player mode.
Time will tell, but with the hdmi and AV-out are on the top of the portable device than you would have to insert it upside down in the dock which might seem/look odd. And even the SNK logo on the back battery cover would be upside down. Maybe the battery cover can go on either way, but in the pic it would stick out upside down. I'm guessing you just stick the device where the cart slot is. It doesn't look like it would fit from the pic, but each of those accessories may not be in scale to each other in that pic.
I want to see more!
(http://i.imgur.com/mR8ev.jpg)
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If only it was an actual AES that took AES carts and had standard controller plug-ins...
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if this thing really becomes real, it must be shown at the TGS2012.
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If only it was an actual AES that took AES carts and had standard controller plug-ins...
I think they already made something like that...its called the AES.
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Wow this looks nice, if it works good $200 isn't bad
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If only it was an actual AES that took AES carts and had standard controller plug-ins...
I think they already made something like that...its called the AES.
Damn, now that you say :!:
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Just buy the neo geo comp for ps2 or Xbox. $20. Done.
And don't forget to buy a PS2 or Xbox and a joystick and a Dingoo or whatever for portable use.
You really want to play crappy games on the go?
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You really want to play crappy games on the go?
Why would I want to play 'em at all if I thought they were crappy? :roll:
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You really want to play crappy games on the go?
Why would I want to play 'em at all if I thought they were crappy? :roll:
Exactly. Well played.
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Just buy the neo geo comp for ps2 or Xbox. $20. Done.
And don't forget to buy a PS2 or Xbox and a joystick and a Dingoo or whatever for portable use.
You really want to play crappy games on the go?
Yes, the Neo Geo is renowned for how shitty its games are. That's why it only lasted 14 years and why they could only get $200-360 per cart.
...wtf...
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Just buy the neo geo comp for ps2 or Xbox. $20. Done.
And don't forget to buy a PS2 or Xbox and a joystick and a Dingoo or whatever for portable use.
You really want to play crappy games on the go?
Yes, the Neo Geo is renowned for how shitty its games are. That's why it only lasted 14 years and why they could only get $200-360 per cart.
...wtf...
Yes, apparently others liked it. But they dont quite pass the test of time. This unit is definately ambitious and even holds a bit of 90s charm with the bulky dock and joystick. But really, SNK couldnt get out of thier own way in the first place and this thing has such a limited audience it just seems like a waste. From a business perspective.
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Yes, apparently others liked it. But they dont quite pass the test of time.
... yeah, that's why they keep selling those compilation discs and downloadable titles... 'cause nobody likes 'em and nobody buys 'em. :roll:
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Yes, apparently others liked it. But they dont quite pass the test of time.
... yeah, that's why they keep selling those compilation discs and downloadable titles... 'cause nobody likes 'em and nobody buys 'em. :roll:
I know, right. Its crazy.
Its good you folks dont take this so seriously because that would be down right foolish.
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Even though Tommo is making this I still find it crazy that this is nowhere to be found on SNK Playmore's webpage. Haha I guess SNK really is that lazy. :lol:
I still love them though.
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Just buy the neo geo comp for ps2 or Xbox. $20. Done.
And don't forget to buy a PS2 or Xbox and a joystick and a Dingoo or whatever for portable use.
You really want to play crappy games on the go?
Yes, the Neo Geo is renowned for how shitty its games are. That's why it only lasted 14 years and why they could only get $200-360 per cart.
...wtf...
Yes, apparently others liked it. But they dont quite pass the test of time. This unit is definately ambitious and even holds a bit of 90s charm with the bulky dock and joystick. But really, SNK couldnt get out of thier own way in the first place and this thing has such a limited audience it just seems like a waste. From a business perspective.
Are you serious, or are you just shitting around? I ask because to me SNKs arcade titles from this period are some of the best games in existence. I still like Super Baseball 2020 more than any sports game made, and I like League Bowling so much that even though I have the MVS cart I bought the PSN version just to get the multiplayer. I can't imagine how someone on a Turbo forum wouldn't like Neo Geo. They tend to be the same audience, and if anything I would say that SNK games age better than Turbo stuff. The Neo probably has the best quality-to-crap ratio of any system in history.
The reason the stick is "bulky" isn't for nostalgia, it's because that's how your supposed to play these games.
As far as this thing goes from a business perspective, yes, SNK is not Nintendo. What's your point?
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As far as this thing goes from a business perspective, yes, SNK is not Nintendo.
I'm sure thankful for that.
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The real question is what is the more anticipated console release, Neo Geo X or Wii U?
I honestly don't know which one I want more for Christmas...
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Even though Tommo is making this I still find it crazy that this is nowhere to be found on SNK Playmore's webpage. Haha I guess SNK really is that lazy. :lol:
I still love them though.
I don't think that Sega ever promoted the terrible Genesis devices that are technically officially licensed. Sega also didn't promote any of the PC Engine Sega games.
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THE TRUTH ABOUT NEO GEO: Neo Geo has been (and always will be) the playground of poseurs who, desperately, attempt to prove how "hardcore" and sincere their passion is. Sadly, these poseurs simply have a fetish for STOUT, STOCKY and CHUNKY hardware. It has been said that a NeoGeo fan will dismiss a game based solely on the technical specifications of its platform/hardware. Also, Neo Geo fans willingly play World Heroes. I kid you not. It is, as they say, the Truth. You like sports games? Yes? Good, because Neo Geo has them. Lots of them. Fighting games, an underwhelming subgenre of Genus Sporticus, are-a-dime-a-dozen on SNK's sloppy, fat machine. NEO GEO IS THE BBW OF THE VIDEO GAME COSMOS. That said, I will gladly accept your sloppy seconds. PM me. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
Even though Tommo is making this I still find it crazy that this is nowhere to be found on SNK Playmore's webpage. Haha I guess SNK really is that lazy. :lol:
I still love them though.
I don't think that Sega ever promoted the terrible Genesis devices that are technically officially licensed. Sega also didn't promote any of the PC Engine Sega games.
Exactly.
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Yeah you make some good points but IMO...
1. turbografx fans are a bit snobby also so we'll fit right in.
2. this is a great deal if you don't want to pirate, or pay thousands for a handful of original games.
3. They dont have it on their website but they made a new one which will give you updates on production & sales, yeah you have to sign up (I did) @ http://www.neogeox.com/home.html
I cant wait for real pics of the final product
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They show a picture of the system running KOF 95 stretched to fit the (why?!) 16:9 screen. I hope that isn't a had omen.
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cool. $200? Ok I can see that.
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They show a picture of the system running KOF 95 stretched to fit the (why?!) 16:9 screen. I hope that isn't a had omen.
More than likely a mock up.
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Now that i'm thinking about it i would drop 200 on this.
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They show a picture of the system running KOF 95 stretched to fit the (why?!) 16:9 screen. I hope that isn't a had omen.
More than likely a mock up.
Of course it is. I'm just wondering why a system designed to play Neo games would have a widescreen when there are zero widescreen Neo games.
The answer, most likely, is that this "system" already exists and they are just going to sell a Neo branded version of it...which brings up the ugly possibility of unfixable distorted graphics...
...I really hope they don't f*ck this up...
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How come neo geo never came out with any fighting games?
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They show a picture of the system running KOF 95 stretched to fit the (why?!) 16:9 screen. I hope that isn't a had omen.
More than likely a mock up.
Of course it is. I'm just wondering why a system designed to play Neo games would have a widescreen when there are zero widescreen Neo games.
The answer, most likely, is that this "system" already exists and they are just going to sell a Neo branded version of it...which brings up the ugly possibility of unfixable distorted graphics...
...I really hope they don't f*ck this up...
What do they do when they put out the collections on PSP or have downloads? If they put up the borders, that is fine.
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I dunno if I would drop $200 for a system that has pretty much nothing but fighting games and sports games. If we ever saw Samurai Showdown RPG translated into english and released into the U.S then maybe. As it stands right now, $200 can go to getting a Super Grafx or possibly towards a Wii U.
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I dunno if I would drop $200 for a system that has pretty much nothing but fighting games and sports games. If we ever saw Samurai Showdown RPG translated into english and released into the U.S then maybe. As it stands right now, $200 can go to getting a Super Grafx or possibly towards a Wii U.
It's a super Niche Xmas item.
Tell you what though, if the little machine can be modded, it could be a really cool portable emulator WITH a docking station and full size Neo stick. That is, if the sticks are full sized.
Their site got updated recently. I'm enough of a fanboy to consider getting one, but like you said, there are other gaming "priorities"
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As it stands right now, $200 can go to getting a Super Grafx...
Yeah, you're right. The Supergrafx isn't flooded with fighting games...it isn't flooded with f*cking anything.
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They show a picture of the system running KOF 95 stretched to fit the (why?!) 16:9 screen. I hope that isn't a had omen.
More than likely a mock up.
Of course it is. I'm just wondering why a system designed to play Neo games would have a widescreen when there are zero widescreen Neo games.
The answer, most likely, is that this "system" already exists and they are just going to sell a Neo branded version of it...which brings up the ugly possibility of unfixable distorted graphics...
...I really hope they don't f*ck this up...
What do they do when they put out the collections on PSP or have downloads? If they put up the borders, that is fine.
They run in 4:3 on the VC and PSN. There might be some "for idiots" mode where you can stretch the screen or add art in the pillow bars. I don't have any of the PSP stuff.
The question though is why to they even have a 16:9 screen if all games are 4:3?
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The docking station and joystick are nice but I think their purpose is to distract you from the fact that this is a basic handheld emulator, not worth the asking price.
I admit that the styling looks nice, but there are many similar products on the market which emulate multiple systems, have TV out and can be used via external controllers through USB OTG or Bluetooth etc - and they cost half the price. Not to mention all the Android based handhelds with WiFi, internet, email access etc.
$200 isn't an insanely bad price, but it's a lot of money for very little functionality.
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sports games.
Sports games wtf the neo-geo only has a few and not that many to begin with.Yes it does have a lot of fighters but that's 'what the system is know for.Beside it having puzzle,platformers and shoot'em ups etc.Still i all ready have a neo-geo so i don't see to much of a reason to own the neo-geo x.If i wanted it to have it on the go i just have my psp hacked.
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How come neo geo never came out with any fighting games?
So you're just a troll, eh? Bravo - enjoy your place alongside the likes of swissmiss, ninnypants, and regal.
I admit that the styling looks nice, but there are many similar products on the market which emulate multiple systems, have TV out and can be used via external controllers through USB OTG or Bluetooth etc - and they cost half the price.
The difference being that this thing is legal. Your argument makes as much sense (i.e. none) as saying compilation discs or VC are a ripoff because you can download the games for free.
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How come neo geo never came out with any fighting games?
So you're just a troll, eh? Bravo - enjoy your place alongside the likes of swissmiss, ninnypants, and regal.
I admit that the styling looks nice, but there are many similar products on the market which emulate multiple systems, have TV out and can be used via external controllers through USB OTG or Bluetooth etc - and they cost half the price.
The difference being that this thing is legal. Your argument makes as much sense (i.e. none) as saying compilation discs or VC are a ripoff because you can download the games for free.
Buddy, will you just relax? One dumb joke and im a troll now? I've read some of your other posts so i know you aren't THAT dumb with an accusation like that.
For christ sakes, did a neo geo save your life at one point? Did you give birth to one? Not sure why you are so compelled to defend it so much. Game forums allow differing opinions, no need to get so offended.
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One dumb joke and im a troll now?
I count six dumb jokes.
Not sure why you are so compelled to defend it so much.
I'm equally uncertain why you feel the need to keep bitching about how much the NeoGeo sucks. It's called thread crapping and serves no purpose other than to piss off others (a.k.a. trolling).
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One dumb joke and im a troll now?
I count six dumb jokes.
Not sure why you are so compelled to defend it so much.
I'm equally uncertain why you feel the need to keep bitching about how much the NeoGeo sucks. It's called thread crapping and serves no purpose other than to piss off others (a.k.a. trolling).
Six?? No way. At least three of them hit their mark.
As for your second point, i never intended to piss anyone off. Maybe my original response was taken out of context. Either way, no need to equate me with a serial rapist or anything. Cut a brother some slack. I have no interest in just plodding around and dumping crap in threads. And i dont think i have built the reputation of doing so up to this point. Guess what, i dont agree with every post i read around here, but you dont see me starting shit do you?.
I dont feel the need to opine on every topic to gain clout or a majestic post count.
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Sep 16th...
Time to revive the thread...
Release date worldwide is Dec. 6th
pricing confirmed
new pic of unit in black
bonus game for Japanese version (?)
and the system specs
http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/9/11/3317268/neo-geo-x-handheld-standalone-price-specifications I read this after reading Engadgets completely useless article
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Gamestop has a preorder up for this and it includes Ninja Master's as a preorder bonus.
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Yea i noticed the preorder about an hour ago and just got mine with an extra controller.
Between the WiiU and Neo Geo ill be busy for a few days lol.
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I like the idea of the "Ninja Masters Bonus". Not because its a great game (it isn't, really) but because that is the first conformation that you can officially add games to this thing.
I wonder if the sticks will be wired the same as regular AES sticks. That sure would be convenient. Its also somewhat likely since AES sticks are the cheapest way to make a stick (ie: no internal semiconductors).
Looking at the comments on that site (which I should never do) its obvious we live in a world beyond anyone placing any value at all on software. People saying its a poor deal compared to a tablet, etc prove nobody knows what a f*cking joystick is anymore either.
My only question: what will it actually look like on that off-the-rack screen? I'm going to pissed as hell if I buy it and find it only plays in stretched mode. Super pissed.
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The controller ports on the Station looks like USB ports to me, if the pics they have are the official final design. If the sizes of the objects in the pics have any word, the station is going to be smaller than the stick. I'm still on the fence about it, but does look tempting. Who is the say how long official support will last for this. What will be the prices for the game cards? Can we expect the whole line of Neo games to be released for it? have too many questions and they have not enough answers. I think I'll wait.
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Can we expect the whole line of Neo games to be released for it?
From what I understand the SNK Playmore service, the same that provides the PS3 with games will be tied in to this Neo Unit, so who knows we may just see some cool games re-re-released. The consoles becomes more attractive if that is indeed the case.
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I wish it was announced if you could use your old Neo Geo AES controllers on the home unit. I have two of them and wouldn't want to preorder another controller if I don't need to. I am assuming that Gamestop isn't going to have a stack of these thing either, so I imagine preorder is the only way to ensure the controller, if needed.
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Well, I can always use a backup stick. If they are USB, that's even better since it will work on Windows/Mac/PS3. The only down side would be if it were anything else, ie: proprietary.
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Depending on popularity and how well it sells overall, we might see some homemade adapters for this to allow an AES controller to be used on it, if native connectivity isn't possible... which I'm assuming not.
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so this portable is going to have games released on cards (like nintendo ds)?
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I was assuming the "Ninja Masters Card" was just a piece of plastic with a download card on it. I really don't know though.
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I was thinking the same thing, like a DLC card that has the redemption code hidden by pulling the tab or something.
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The picture looks like a SD card with the write protect switch removed.
Then again, almost all of the NGX promo pictures are photoshop jobs, so who knows.
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If they go the card route and do one game per card... Shit, N-Gage all over again! ](*,)
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If they go the card route and do one game per card... Shit, N-Gage all over again! ](*,)
it doesn't look like the system has any type of wifi on it; my guess is that you buy your games online via SNKPlaymore service, download your stuff to the SD card and voila! Maybe...
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If they go the card route and do one game per card... Shit, N-Gage all over again! ](*,)
Or...you know, Neo Geo all over again. Or DS, or Vita, or whatever. This isn't a phone, btw, did you just assume it was?
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I think he's talking about the fact that the N-Gage failed as a portable gaming device first, and a phone second.
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I think the Neo Geo X is a neat looking device. I probably don't see myself getting one of these as I already have a home console and a good chunk of those games. I have to wonder how successful this release will be considering the fact that Neo-Geo games are readily available on various complation discs and for download.
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I think he's talking about the fact that the N-Gage failed as a portable gaming device first, and a phone second.
...because it used one game per cart? That makes no sense. WTF does any phone have to do with this product? And what game system is primarily known for multicarts? I can think of any.
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It's on Gamestops site. I loled.
f*cking retards
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I have to wonder how successful this release will be considering the fact that Neo-Geo games are readily available on various complation discs and for download.
It will probably do relatively well, people think it's an official SNK product and want the Neo Neo bling.
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Aren't the sticks wireless?
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Aren't the sticks wireless?
Ah yes, that is one more thing noobs can whine about. I didn't think of that.
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"OOHH NOOOOESS. not a .1 millisecond delay!"
seriously? that's like one time i was at a brawl tournament and this guy claimed that the wavebird controller he was being "forced" to use was too heavy, and that's why he kept losing.
gah, i don't get it, if the difference is that small, maybe it's you, not the controller.
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I bet it doesn't even support Bluetooth headphones, motion control, 3D, or NFC purchasing. What a joke.
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I think its pretty neat. I dont think the price point is to high for all the things you are getting. There are still some unanswered questions about the product though. The one about the game cards actually having games on them. A list of future games coming out and so on.
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I bet it doesn't even support Bluetooth headphones, motion control, 3D, or NFC purchasing. What a joke.
Hahahahhahahahahaha. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
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In the wild
http://www.retrocollect.com/News/video-of-snks-neo-geo-gold-x-handheld-in-action.html
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OK, that new clip there doesn't mention the biggest question I've had from the begining; is there a 4:3 mode? If this thing only plays stretched there is NO f*ckING WAY I'm buying it. I'm not a Grandma watching the news for f*ck's sake.
I can understand why they used a wide LCD, chances are 4:3 ones are rare these days. But if its a "Neo Geo" the thing is designed to emulate then ALL games will have to be stretched to fit it and all games will be warped to f*ck.
I'm thinking, probably, that this is just an oversight. The thing is probably in wide mode because the guy playing the system in that video is an idiot. He looks like he's touching a pussy for the first time.
The rest of the hardware looks fantastic, I have to say. No 4:3 mode, if that turns out to be the case, is a deal breaker though. Totally.
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its not 4:3 (on the TV mode), I'll bet my life on it. I'm still getting one though
"stretched" or "cropped" is the question
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I think the problem with the price is that blaze has been churning out sub-par Megadrive knock-offs for years now at a price point of roughly £30. Of course Megadrives are pretty damn cheap to begin with, and there's nothing like this.
I'm willing to bet however, that this will be of similar quality, and people are gonna look at the Megaclones as a comparison.
It looks nice, but there's no way I can afford this right now.
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Pre-ordered mine today. Finally be able to play the games I only saw in magazines at ridiculous prices when I was a kid. The price of this package beats buying a AES and all the games that come with the new setup. Win-win for me
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Pre-ordered mine today. Finally be able to play the games I only saw in magazines at ridiculous prices when I was a kid. The price of this package beats buying a AES and all the games that come with the new setup. Win-win for me
That's what buying MVS is for ;)
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Seems as though a 4:3 screen is availible. Still a better deal than either an AES or MVS for people who've yearned but never had the chance to play SNK games. Add a 2nd controler and hell yeah... the wife and I can get in on some SS2 throwdown!
Looks as though you can expand on the 20 (or 21) games that come with the system, also. Looking good on my part (as I don't own ether home consoles). Again... win-win!
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When I noticed this weekend that Amazon finally had a listing for the system, I promptly placed a pre-order for the Gold package and an extra controller.
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Seems as though a 4:3 screen is availible. Still a better deal than either an AES or MVS for people who've yearned but never had the chance to play SNK games. Add a 2nd controler and hell yeah... the wife and I can get in on some SS2 throwdown!
Looks as though you can expand on the 20 (or 21) games that come with the system, also. Looking good on my part (as I don't own ether home consoles). Again... win-win!
You say "looks like" as if you've read new info. Do you have a link?
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On the Amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/NEOGEO-GOLD-Limited-Edition-Electronic-Games/dp/B0093G9VOI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349743395&sr=8-1&keywords=neo+geo+x+gold
It says the the limited edition pre-order comes with a "Ninja Master's Neogeo X Game Card." I don't know diddly about the Neo Geo, but that sounds like an additional game on a card to me. Which would be sweet. I'm very tempted to pick one of these up, along with an extra controller.
UPDATE: Just noticed this image on the amazon link. Sorry it's so big:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71a7Qy+0ejL._AA1498_.jpg)
Looks like the game is on a standard SD card!
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I have two questions about this system:
1 - Can this play TEH ROMZ illegally downloaded from the internet?
2 - Is the video out limited to composite or does it have s-video? (EDIT: I see it has HDMI out. It is protected or can I record it?)
OK I lied, I have more questions:
3 - Is this emulation or a NGOAC? How accurate is this to the real systems?
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It's emulation. Accuracy is unknown but has no reason to not be perfect. I'm sure you can't plays teh romz on it as shipped, but it's almost certainly to be hacked the same day it comes out so illegitimate expansion will be there long after the thing dies.
Still looking for confirmation of 4:3 mode, although if Blaze/SNK were too f*cking stupid to put that in I'm pretty sure the hackers eventually will.
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Duplicate post. Sorry.
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I have some high hopes for this thing. I hope the quality is good and not some 3rd party crap.
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The pre-order extra game thing is making me mad. I don't want to spend $200 on crap, but there is no way to know if it is crap until there are some reviews out. However, if I wait until reviews are out, then I miss out on the free game. THE HUMANITY!!!!!
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Ninja Masters isn't that great, and like I said, it will be hacked pretty much instantly.
That being the case...I'm still not sure if I should pre-order this. I really really hate half-assed emulation.
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Seems as though a 4:3 screen is availible. Still a better deal than either an AES or MVS for people who've yearned but never had the chance to play SNK games. Add a 2nd controler and hell yeah... the wife and I can get in on some SS2 throwdown!
Looks as though you can expand on the 20 (or 21) games that come with the system, also. Looking good on my part (as I don't own ether home consoles). Again... win-win!
You say "looks like" as if you've read new info. Do you have a link?
My bad, I misread the article... seems as though the handheld has a 4.3" screen.
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I'd like to know which BIOS will be emulated. AES gives you a very limited number of continues on a lot of games. MVS with free play enabled is better.
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That's a minor issue, but yeah, some games in AES mode are nigh unbeatable.
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I have two questions about this system:
1 - Can this play TEH ROMZ illegally downloaded from the internet?
2 - Is the video out limited to composite or does it have s-video? (EDIT: I see it has HDMI out. It is protected or can I record it?)
OK I lied, I have more questions:
3 - Is this emulation or a NGOAC? How accurate is this to the real systems?
1 - Don't know yet! The Genesis clones that the company makes will let you use roms, although that's not officially stated. The Ninja Master's card is on a "secured" SD card. If it doesn't allow the use of roms, I'm sure this security will be broken in short order so it won't matter.
2 - It has composite video, or HDMI at 480p. I'm hoping that I will be able to hook it to a HDMI to component converter that they sell at Monoprice to use it in 480i on a SDTV, but nobody's going to know if that works until someone (probably me) tries it. I seriously doubt it's protected, but you never know.
3 - Emulation. Unlike Genny clones though, I don't really mind this, as the Neo is ridiculously easy to emulate accurately as long as the system has enough ram to handle the bigass carts.
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new images
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/10/22/see-the-neogeo-x-gold-limited-edition-and-snk-game-cards/
:shock:
SO SLICK!
(http://siliconera.siliconera.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/NGXG_003.jpg)
(http://siliconera.siliconera.netdna-cdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/NGXG_006.jpg)
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I love Ninja Masters! That pic also looks pretty slick!
I also see this probably not selling all that well. I hope it does though. If it doesn't sell well these will probably go for quite a bit down the road.
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I so want one of these. I'm so excited that when Christmas time rolls around, I can actually give an amazon.com link to my parents or wife for something awesomely retro! :dance:
And if it doesn't show up under the tree, I'll just buy one. :D The pre-order pack-in doesn't hold any nostalgic value for me. The included fighters (and others) are the ones I remember playing in arcades back in the day.
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tax time!!
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I want to see this. This does look so cool.
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I'm still hoping they'll add support for NGP & NGCD games, that would rock.....& roll....all nite long.....sweet suzy!..................My nipples look like milk duds!! :shock:
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I'm still hoping they'll add support for NGP & NGCD games, that would rock.....& roll....all nite long.....sweet suzy!..................My nipples look like milk duds!! :shock:
Imagines a translated Sam Sho rpg :dance: :dance: (unrealistic I know)....
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I'm still hoping they'll add support for NGP & NGCD games, that would rock.....& roll....all nite long.....sweet suzy!..................My nipples look like milk duds!! :shock:
Imagines a translated Sam Sho rpg :dance: :dance: (unrealistic I know)....
Exactly! But yeah, it's probably unrealistic :(
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This thing is looking basically perfect. It has a real click stick and its not locked to 16:9 like I feared.
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3 - Emulation. Unlike Genny clones though, I don't really mind this, as the Neo is ridiculously easy to emulate accurately as long as the system has enough ram to handle the bigass carts.
The Wii and PS2 collections are not emulated properly. The video seems ever-so-slightly downscaled and results in some pretty funky artifacts when scrolling. 100% unacceptable to someone like me.
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What is your display? I didn't notice any issues with the Wii VC releases.
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I haven't tried the Virtual Console ones. I'm talking the disc-based ones. The display is irrelevant, the emulation is messed up and show you if I were to capture them which I don't want to do because moving the Wii is a pain in the ass with all of its danglies that need to come with it.
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This thing looks great!
(Now I just have to try to find $200...) :(
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If it somehow had RGB output, I'd be interested...
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Because HDMI isn't clear enough.
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I would rather have RGB output than HDMI. RGB is best for an RGB capable monitor if you like the classic arcade feel...It is Neo Geo after all...
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Because HDMI isn't clear enough.
Some of us don't have HDMI inputs on our gaming displays. I play all of my games on an RGB monitor.
Chris
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I understand that, but surely you guys must understand that you are a microscopically puny minority.
My analog RGB Neo setup consists of an actual Neo. If I'm that hung up about signal clarity I'm certainly not going to be running an emulator.
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Hey, how bout that translated Samurai Shodown RPG?
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Hey, how bout that translated Samurai Shodown RPG?
LOL deuce will probably never finish it :roll:
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It is Neo Geo after all...
Actually, its not. Its a emulator run on a handheld. It would be crazy to expect them to include a straight analog RGB function when their target audience is specifically using a HDMI capable LCD. It may be hard to swallow, but their target audience here is not going to be all the nostalgic old school die hard Neo owners of old. Most of the people buying this are going to be in their late teens to early 20's. New fans who are trying to get a taste of what things were like for the original Neo fan base prior. Mainly the same folks who bought the PS2 and Wii compilations, etc, but now want to feel leet and have some bragging rights of their own.
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How much are the games going to be on SD cards? I know the neogeox comes with an sd of 20 or so games, and 1 sd of ninja masters for the people pre-ordering. I never checked on how much games are going to cost though.
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How much are the games going to be on SD cards? I know the neogeox comes with an sd of 20 or so games, and 1 sd of ninja masters for the people pre-ordering. I never checked on how much games are going to cost though.
Nobody knows. If I were them I'd get that lined up before the launch. This thing is likely to be cracked instantly. If people are pirating ROMs day one they probably won't give a shit what gets released officially later given that there likely to be totally original versions.
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I would prefer for cards to have a few games on them and charge $30-$50, than for one game each at $20. I am hoping the one game pack-in is just a special one-time thing for preorders.
The other approach would be to do an E-Reader like packaging where each game comes cheaply and they are in some sort of rack pack. Gamestop might be happy with that because it won't take up much space. If the games are sold in this manner, I think $10 each is a strong possibility and in line with single game Virtual Console prices.
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Other approach would be for them to release some of the later releases right after launch or before. I love me some oldschool neo, but those bundled titles are the same games they always release that you can get on basically any system from the ps2/dc era or after. It's never the later titles that I'm sure most gamers new to the neo, will want to play.
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RE: Lack of RGB
It's not true RGB, but there are converters that can take 480p HDMI sources and convert them to 480i component sources. We won't know how well it will work until we try it, but I'll probably pick one up from Monoprice to see how well it works.
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Actually, its not. Its a emulator run on a handheld. It would be crazy to expect them to include a straight analog RGB function when their target audience is specifically using a HDMI capable LCD. It may be hard to swallow, but their target audience here is not going to be all the nostalgic old school die hard Neo owners of old. Most of the people buying this are going to be in their late teens to early 20's. New fans who are trying to get a taste of what things were like for the original Neo fan base prior. Mainly the same folks who bought the PS2 and Wii compilations, etc, but now want to feel leet and have some bragging rights of their own.
:lol: That description nearly fits me to a T. :D Except I'm waaaay older. I remember when the Neo Geo was new. I had friends who had Neo Geos and loved playing Neo Geo games in the arcades. Even though I could somehow justify spending the absurd amount of money I did on Turbografx stuff bitd, I couldn't bring myself to invest in another "obviously geared for the cult collector" system. This interests me because it has that familiar look, but already contains a decent library.
Interestingly enough, I have an actual wood-grain 2600 and a bunch of cartridges that sit on a shelf in in my office, but, due to convenience and image quality, I have one of those Flashback systems hooked up to the tv for the rare urge to play one of those games. I'd have no problem playing this emulated console when it's so close to the original and is so convenient (and relatively cheap).