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Title: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: gbapalyer on January 05, 2013, 06:03:00 AM
hello,

i wonder if it is possible to play pc engine cd roms in a cd player and listen to the games soundtracks?
i remember doing it once with an old sony tape&cd player and it did work but with our new cd player it does not work.

any recommendations which cd player plays best?

thanks
gbapalyer
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: esteban on January 05, 2013, 06:04:43 AM
Yes, absolutely. Usually, you simply skip track 2 (data).

Track 1  = warning
Track 2 = data
Track 3+ = songs/cinema soundtrack

HOWEVER, somme discs ALTERNATE Red Book and DATA tracks for 3-XX
ALSO, final track sometimes DATA (redundancy)
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: Tatsujin on January 05, 2013, 07:20:35 AM
yeah, unfortunately some newer CD players and PC cd-roms do refuse the play of obey discs due to an unproper use of the red book audio format or such.
however some smartass players will still play it on your PC :)
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: gbapalyer on January 06, 2013, 03:11:41 AM
and does anybody know a good cd player which plays the cd games without problems?
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: Tatsujin on January 06, 2013, 03:20:41 AM
get an old one from the thrift store :)
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: Flare65 on January 06, 2013, 03:28:47 AM
and does anybody know a good cd player which plays the cd games without problems?


I have not had any issues lately with any of my players.  When in doubt, take the disc to a friend's house and try it on some of thier players.
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: SuperPlay on January 06, 2013, 04:57:01 AM
Not directly the question you asked, however here are a few links from my links thread that you may find useful.  

If you just want to play the audio you could always use the CD audio files (in mp3) available from the Sound Rips Archive and you could even burn them back to CD in your own complication. And if you do not like the quality of the .mp3 files, Turbo Engine will rip your CDs to WAV.


Pretty much every audio rip that you can imagine:

Sound Rips Archive (HES & CD): http://hes.joshw.info/

Note that the rips are compressed with 7Zip so you will need to exact them using 7zip free from:  http://www.7-zip.org/


To play the Chip tunes (HES Files) you will need the following:

HES NEZplug (Winamp plug-in inc. Source Code) Site 1: http://nezplug.sourceforge.net/


If you want to rip your own you can use the following Emulator:

Turbo Engine (CD Ripping Tool Included): http://aamirm.hacking-cult.org/www/turbo.html

Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: esteban on January 07, 2013, 03:18:00 PM
Not directly the question you asked, however here are a few links from my links thread that you may find useful. 

If you just want to play the audio you could always use the CD audio files (in mp3) available from the Sound Rips Archive and you could even burn them back to CD in your own complication. And if you do not like the quality of the .mp3 files, Turbo Engine will rip your CDs to WAV.


Pretty much every audio rip that you can imagine:

Sound Rips Archive (HES & CD): http://hes.joshw.info/

Note that the rips are compressed with 7Zip so you will need to exact them using 7zip free from:  http://www.7-zip.org/


To play the Chip tunes (HES Files) you will need the following:

HES NEZplug (Winamp plug-in inc. Source Code) Site 1: http://nezplug.sourceforge.net/


If you want to rip your own you can use the following Emulator:

Turbo Engine (CD Ripping Tool Included): http://aamirm.hacking-cult.org/www/turbo.html




TELL ME about the rips... what are the mp3's encoded at? Are they tagged consistently/accurately?

I don't have ability to download too much stuff right now, so I'm curious about the overall (A) quality of sound and (B) quality of information

THANK YOU in advance to anyone who can help out

NOTE: I'm working on creating a music resource for all of us, and I'm trying to select high-quality stuff instead of just collecting a bunch of random stuff...


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Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: SuperPlay on January 08, 2013, 06:10:29 AM
I have just checked a handful of the files they seem to be encoded in variable bit rate format and they contain no tagging info.

Hope this helps

Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on January 09, 2013, 05:43:59 AM

Sound Rips Archive (HES & CD): http://hes.joshw.info/

Note that the rips are compressed with 7Zip so you will need to exact them using 7zip free from:  http://www.7-zip.org/



This is possibly the most important link I've ever seen shared in Pcenginefx.com history.  Holy shit Superplay!!

I'm on my way to filling up a HDD with turbo MP3s!!
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: roflmao on January 09, 2013, 07:24:26 AM
This is possibly the most important link I've ever seen shared in Pcenginefx.com history.  Holy shit Superplay!!

I'm on my way to filling up a HDD with turbo MP3s!!


I've already taken a number of those soundtracks and converted them to mp3.  You can browse them here:
http://turbomusic.risemedia.org/

I've also included a handful of CD game soundtracks as well.

I really need to update that site one of these days....  Currently I think it has about 40 game soundtracks (all TG-16/PCE).
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: NightWolve on January 09, 2013, 03:02:13 PM
Pretty much every audio rip that you can imagine:

Sound Rips Archive (HES & CD): http://hes.joshw.info/

Note that the rips are compressed with 7Zip so you will need to exact them using 7zip free from:  http://www.7-zip.org/


Nice! I tried the "Super Star Soldier" archive, works good!

I wonder if there's a way to open a FTP-like interface with a FTP client to a HTTP server so you can select all files/folders to download everything at once (recursively)... Some VBScript could be written for this, but I'm sure there's gotta be something out there that does it and *with* a GUI.
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: Keith Courage on January 09, 2013, 08:47:24 PM
When I was a kid I would listen to Lords of Thunder in a portable CD player while doing my paper route. At that time you couldn't burn CDs yet so it was the real game CD. I'm glad I never dropped the CD player at any point.
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: SuperPlay on January 10, 2013, 09:41:21 PM
Pretty much every audio rip that you can imagine:

Sound Rips Archive (HES & CD): http://hes.joshw.info/

Note that the rips are compressed with 7Zip so you will need to exact them using 7zip free from:  http://www.7-zip.org/


Nice! I tried the "Super Star Soldier" archive, works good!

I wonder if there's a way to open a FTP-like interface with a FTP client to a HTTP server so you can select all files/folders to download everything at once (recursively)... Some VBScript could be written for this, but I'm sure there's something out there for and *with* GUI.


I am sure that I managed to do this with one of the free file managers.  I will have a dig to see if I can find out which one I used.

Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: SuperPlay on January 20, 2013, 12:35:54 AM
Sorry it has taken me a while to dig this out.

Notes:

As these are not my Audio files, nor do I host the site. Do this at your own risk!

Also as not to xxxx off the host, I would recommend that you set the max number of download to 1 or 2 and limit your total downloads per day to a sensible number.

Total download size is 14.6GB !!!!!!!

1) Grab free download manager from: http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/
1) Set download limits (Click link on tip bar or follows instruction in the next section)
2) Click on '>>'
3) Select 'Site Explorer'
4) Enter http://hes.joshw.info (http://hes.joshw.info/) and click go
5) Right click files and select 'download'

By default these are placed in C:\Downloads\


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If you do not get the option on the tip bar to configure total downloads you can select 'Options / Settings / Downloads / Network' and set your 'max number of running downloads' to what you feel is reasonable.  Don't forget to set this under each profile 'light, medium and heavy modes'

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5034/settingsb.jpg)


Hope this helps!


Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: Duke.Togo on January 20, 2013, 05:52:55 AM
Just an aside, if you have an iOS device, I'd recommend one of the Console Music apps from Croissant Production: https://sites.google.com/site/croissantprod/

There are only free trial versions for NES, SNES, and Playstation right now, but you can buy the ability to play chiptunes from a large range of consoles (they even have/had a holiday special for full unlock for $4, not sure if it is still available at this moment) including PCE/Turbo.

I'm not affiliated with it at all, but I use this app all the time to listen to chiptunes.
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: kazekirifx on January 21, 2013, 12:33:31 PM
I have a newer portable CD player that refuses to play them. (Smart electronics are stupid.)
My car stereo plays them fine though, so I guess it'll have to be Lords of Thunder in the car. Woot!
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: Keith Courage on January 21, 2013, 01:01:53 PM
Nero Burning software can save and burn audio tracks from TGCD games no problem.
Title: Re: playing pc engine cd roms in a cd player?
Post by: Black Tiger on January 22, 2013, 04:15:57 AM
I bought a little boombox from Best Buy USA the other day, so I that I can easily play CDs in any room of my house, and it plays Turbo/PCE CDs no problem.