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Title: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: sunteam_paul on June 15, 2013, 08:08:55 AM
There's a discussion going on over at one of the Facebook groups I'm in - take a look at any HuCARD or Turbo game released before 1991 and many of them have a code stamped on the back. It has been suggested that these are the actual manufacturing dates of that particular batch of cards.

For example:
Power Drift has A00329 = 90 / 03 / 29 = 29th March 1990 (15 days before release)
Gunhed has A00120 = 20th January 1990 (Later than release, assume a reprint)
Doraemon has A91003 = 3rd October 1989 (it was released on 21st)

These differ from card to card so yours may vary. However, none go beyond 1990.
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: Tatsujin on June 15, 2013, 08:18:50 AM
Funny. Giving the JPN time format Y/M/D this sure is true. Probably Mitsubishi didn't print the date on Hueys before 1990.
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: TheClash603 on June 15, 2013, 09:49:51 AM
Someone needs to find the first card ever made and we can start this whole thing over again.

AHU and BHU.  This whole BC and AD thing seems counter to modern cultural bliefs.
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: cabbage on June 15, 2013, 04:57:27 PM
Cool! I have always been curious about these stamps. Thanks for explaining their meaning!

Looking through the few hucards I have with me at the moment and I have seven with the stamped date: (Edit- they are all japanese version)
The Kung Fu = A71203 = 1987.12.03
Kato & Ken = A80125 = 1988.1.25
Bikkuriman World = A80126 = 1988.1.26
Fantasy Zone = A80926 = 1988.9.26
Mr. Heli = A91018 = 1989.10.18
PC Genjin = A91130 = 1989.11.30
Formation Armed F = A00306 = 1990.3.06

Now, where can I get a list of hucard release dates??  :-"
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: SuperPlay on June 16, 2013, 12:25:16 AM
There's a discussion going on over at one of the Facebook groups I'm in - take a look at any HuCARD or Turbo game released before 1991 and many of them have a code stamped on the back. It has been suggested that these are the actual manufacturing dates of that particular batch of cards.

For example:
Power Drift has A00329 = 90 / 03 / 29 = 29th March 1990 (15 days before release)
Gunhed has A00120 = 20th January 1990 (Later than release, assume a reprint)
Doraemon has A91003 = 3rd October 1989 (it was released on 21st)

These differ from card to card so yours may vary. However, none go beyond 1990.

Very interesting, thanks for sharing this :-)
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: esteban on June 16, 2013, 02:09:25 AM
There's a discussion going on over at one of the Facebook groups I'm in - take a look at any HuCARD or Turbo game released before 1991 and many of them have a code stamped on the back. It has been suggested that these are the actual manufacturing dates of that particular batch of cards.

For example:
Power Drift has A00329 = 90 / 03 / 29 = 29th March 1990 (15 days before release)
Gunhed has A00120 = 20th January 1990 (Later than release, assume a reprint)
Doraemon has A91003 = 3rd October 1989 (it was released on 21st)

These differ from card to card so yours may vary. However, none go beyond 1990.

Has anyone created a big old table documenting the findings?

I don't do Facebook, so I won't be looking, myself...
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: sunteam_paul on June 16, 2013, 06:11:51 AM
There's a discussion going on over at one of the Facebook groups I'm in - take a look at any HuCARD or Turbo game released before 1991 and many of them have a code stamped on the back. It has been suggested that these are the actual manufacturing dates of that particular batch of cards.

For example:
Power Drift has A00329 = 90 / 03 / 29 = 29th March 1990 (15 days before release)
Gunhed has A00120 = 20th January 1990 (Later than release, assume a reprint)
Doraemon has A91003 = 3rd October 1989 (it was released on 21st)

These differ from card to card so yours may vary. However, none go beyond 1990.

Has anyone created a big old table documenting the findings?

I don't do Facebook, so I won't be looking, myself...

No but we can start posting our numbers if you're handy with a spreadsheet...
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: turboswimbz on June 16, 2013, 09:45:22 AM
A couple of thoughts on this:

1) Esty and perhaps others  Can you  use the dates on the back of the hu cards to help with the list of release dates on Tg-16.com and the list you made in one of the threads.  I can't recall when this was.  It's be neat to see how close we could get to actual release dates. 

2) How well does the time that the numbers stop being printed match up to the US releases that lost thier Jewel cases?
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: esteban on June 16, 2013, 05:34:47 PM
A couple of thoughts on this:

1) Esty and perhaps others  Can you  use the dates on the back of the hu cards to help with the list of release dates on Tg-16.com and the list you made in one of the threads.  I can't recall when this was.  It's be neat to see how close we could get to actual release dates. 

2) How well does the time that the numbers stop being printed match up to the US releases that lost thier Jewel cases?


I would love to create a table with all of this info...if someone can post the raw data (list) I'd be happy to start  (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)

Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: Aggie Tsubi on June 16, 2013, 07:19:20 PM
Wow, that's really handy for people who document this kind of stuff. NEC seemed so much better about preserving this kind of info than most other hardware companies. Like with some of the PC-FX demos I have, I was surprised to discover that they contain huge databases of basic info on PC Engine and PC-FX releases, including release dates. With a lot of older games on other systems, you're lucky if you can pinpoint the month for certain, let alone the exact day.
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: wildfruit on June 16, 2013, 08:41:47 PM
i wanted to join in
but none of my games have this :(
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: Necromancer on June 17, 2013, 06:22:23 AM
From the last time these numbers were brought up:

Air Zonk
Alien Crush
Andre Panza Kick Boxing
Aoi Blink
Arcade Card Duo
Arcade Card Pro
Ballistix
Battle Royale
Bloody Wolf
Bomberman '93
Bomberman '94
Bonk 3
Bonk's Adventure
Bravoman
Cadash
China Warrior
Cratermaze
Cyber-Core
Darkwing Duck
Dead Moon
Deep Blue
Dodge Danpei
Double Dungeons
Double Dungeons (J)
Dragon Spirit
Drop Off
Dungeon Explorer
Falcon
Fantasy Zone
Galaga '90
Gunboat
Hatris
Hit the Ice
Impossamole
JJ & Jeff
Keith Courage
King of Casino
Klax
Legendary Axe
Military Madness
Momotarou Densetsu II
Momotarou Katsugeki
Neutopia
Ninja Spirit
Order of the Griffon
Ordyne
Pac Land
Populous
Power Golf
Racing Spirits
R-Type
Sidearms
Silent Debuggers
Skweek
Soldier Blade
Sommer Assault
Sonic Spike
Space Harrier
Splatterhouse
Street Fighter II'
Super Star Soldier
Takin' It To The Hoop
Talespin
Tennokoe Bank
TG-CD System Card
Time Cruise
Tricky Kick
TV Sports Baseball
TV Sports Basketball
TV Sports Football
TV Sports Hockey
Victory Run
Vigilante
World Class Baseball
World Court Tennis
World Sports Competition
Yo Bro

 
A90805

A00412











A90930
A00131



A00124


A90912
A91110

A90922

A91019
A91124




A00219
A90801


A90725
A00118


A00314


A00119
A91120

A90922

A91020
A91118





A00122



A00116


A00205






A90715
A90930
A91106
A91121
    1992
1989
1991 (December)
1990 (April 27th)
1994 (March 12th)
1994 (March 12th)
1991 (May)
1990
1990
1993
1993 (December 10th)
1993
1990
1990
1991 (November)
1989
1990
1990
1992 (May)
1991
1989
1992 (September 25th)
1990
1989 (September 29th)
1989
1990
1989
1992 (June)
1989
1989
1992 (May)
1991 (May 24th)
1992
1991 (October)
1990
1989
1990
1990
1989
1989
1990 (December 22nd)
1990 (September 21st)
1990
1990
1992
1989
1989
1991 (April 5th)
1989
1991 (July 19th)
1989
1989
1991 (October)
1991 (August 2nd)
1992
1992
1990
1989
1990
1993 (June 12th)
1991
1989
1991
1991 (September 6th)

1992
1990
  :mrgreen:
1991
1990
1991 (September)
1989
1989
1989
1989
1992
1991 (September)

(all TG-16 versions unless noted otherwise or PCE only, and release dates culled from pcedaisakusen)


I see a few where the release date is before the date stamp, indicating reprints and/or inaccurate release dates.
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: turboswimbz on June 17, 2013, 06:33:13 AM
I've noticed that  on the PCE games, the earlist "manufacture date" printed on the card seems to be about 2 weeks before the actual release date.  I wonder if this hold trues for US versions as well.  It seems several of the TG-16 games have dates abpout a year later than the release date listed.   

Also thanks Necro.
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: esteban on June 18, 2013, 12:22:53 AM
Necro, that table is formatted beautifully!

QUESTION: Have multiple manufacturing dates been discovered for any titles yet? If so, I'd like to put an extra column or two in my table to document all codes associated with a title.

Of course, I intend to look at my HuCARDs to verify this info.  (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)

Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: sunteam_paul on June 18, 2013, 06:09:47 AM
These are all Japanese cards:

PC Genjin A91205
Shinobi A91101
Yu Yu Jinsei A80406
New Zealand Story A00206
Bloody Wolf A90622
Wataru A90123
Galaga 88 A80624
Yokai Dochuki A80229
Dungeon Explorer A90209
Vigilante A81220
Sonson2 A90111
Kato & Ken A80122
Genpei Toma Den A00207
Doraemon 1 A91003
Fantasy Zone A80929
Schbibin Man A90313
RType 1 A80413
Bikkuriman World A80106
Victory Run A80209
Space Harrier A81212
Power Drift A00329
Naxat Open A90420
Kung Fu A71216
Blue Blink A00414
Dragon Spirit A80920
City Hunter A00209
Kyukyoku Tiger A90930
Gunhed A00120
Atomic Robo-kid A91225
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: RoyVegas on June 21, 2013, 05:28:23 AM
I checked all the U.S. stuff I had. Anything not listed did not have a number at all on my copy.  Hope it helps.

Alien Crush A90908
Blazing Lazers A90915
China Warrior A90926
China Warrior A90920
Cratermaze A00131
Cyber-Core A00417
Cyber-Core A00418
Deep Blue A00125
Dragon Spirit A91030
Dungeon Explorer A90927
Fantasy Zone A91016
Final Lap Twin A00108
Galaga 90 A91021
Galaga 90 A91116
JJ and Jeff A00219
JJ and Jeff A00209
JJ and Jeff A00208
Keith Courage A90621
Keith Courage A90705
Keith Courage A90615
Keith Courage A91009
Keith Courage A91110
Keith Courage A00116
Legendary Axe A90719
Legandary Axe A90724
Military Madness A00119
Moto Roader A91114
Neutopia A00315
Ordyne A00120
Pac Land A91128
Pac Land A91205
Power Golf A90908
R-Type A91020
Sidearms A00207
Sidearms A91116
Sidearms A00207
Space Harrier A00122
Takin it to the Hoop A00118
Takin it to the Hoop A00118
Takin it to the Hoop A00117
Timeball A00519
Victory Run A90909
Victory Run A90801
Victory Run A90712
Vigilante A90901
Vigilante A90825
World Class Baseball A91020
World Class Baseball A91107
World Class Baseball A91118
World Court Tennis A91121
Sys card 2.0 A90781
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: RoyVegas on June 21, 2013, 05:35:02 AM

QUESTION: Have multiple manufacturing dates been discovered for any titles yet? If so, I'd like to put an extra column or two in my table to document all codes associated with a title.


Theres definately different dates, as seen in my post above.  Sorry for the double post, was trying to keep the list seperate.
Title: Re: Manufacturing date stamped on HuCARDs pre-1991?
Post by: esteban on June 21, 2013, 04:57:21 PM

QUESTION: Have multiple manufacturing dates been discovered for any titles yet? If so, I'd like to put an extra column or two in my table to document all codes associated with a title.



Theres definately different dates, as seen in my post above.  Sorry for the double post, was trying to keep the list seperate.


Awesome! This is great. I'm going to check the dates on my HuCARDS, too.  (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)

Thanks.