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Title: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: toymachine78 on December 23, 2013, 07:27:42 AM
After watching the latest Game Sack, I am considering purchasing a Turbo Ever drive ( Gee thanks Joe). Is it worth the $150?  :-k
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: jperryss on December 23, 2013, 07:31:49 AM
$150 is a ripoff even if you're talking about the fancy SAG version. The regular $79 version, however, is worth every penny and you can buy it direct right here.

http://shop.retrogate.com/Turbo-EverDrive-TURBO-ED.htm
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: toymachine78 on December 23, 2013, 07:40:54 AM
The plain board looks so fragile though. If my 3yr old got her hands on that thing it would be toast!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Necromancer on December 23, 2013, 08:02:35 AM
I'd rather have a 3D printed cover like this (http://www.shapeways.com/model/824005/shell-v3-rev-a.html?li=shortUrl&key=a6adf254ca9a748a4636254bbeb46a6f), but it appears to be discontinued.

Since it's so damn cute, I'm gonna recycle onion's gif:

(http://www.seymoronion.com/Miku_Photos/it_is_hat.gif)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Black Tiger on December 23, 2013, 08:12:26 AM
The plain board looks so fragile though. If my 3yr old got her hands on that thing it would be toast!

It's super heavy duty. A partial plastic plate won't do anything to protect it. It's strictly for looks.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: jperryss on December 23, 2013, 08:30:37 AM
It's super heavy duty. A partial plastic plate won't do anything to protect it. It's strictly for looks.

X2. The TED board is identical in thickness to a standard HU, and doesn't bend easily.

I'm always careful with the electronics and such sitting exposed on top of the board, but no way will a kid accidentally break the board itself.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: ccovell on December 23, 2013, 11:56:31 AM
...Though the US/JP switch broke *off* within 5 cycles of normal use.  X-P
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: sirhcman on December 23, 2013, 12:02:15 PM
It's super heavy duty. A partial plastic plate won't do anything to protect it. It's strictly for looks.

X2. The TED board is identical in thickness to a standard HU, and doesn't bend easily.

I'm always careful with the electronics and such sitting exposed on top of the board, but no way will a kid accidentally break the board itself.

X3, the board is super thick and not thin like most circuit boards you come across. Please don't spend $150 for one!
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: toymachine78 on December 23, 2013, 02:02:32 PM
It's super heavy duty. A partial plastic plate won't do anything to protect it. It's strictly for looks.

X2. The TED board is identical in thickness to a standard HU, and doesn't bend easily.

I'm always careful with the electronics and such sitting exposed on top of the board, but no way will a kid accidentally break the board itself.

The components being exposed isn't a problem? I could see my daughter popping off a capacitor lol
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: sirhcman on December 23, 2013, 04:44:05 PM
It's super heavy duty. A partial plastic plate won't do anything to protect it. It's strictly for looks.

X2. The TED board is identical in thickness to a standard HU, and doesn't bend easily.

I'm always careful with the electronics and such sitting exposed on top of the board, but no way will a kid accidentally break the board itself.

The components being exposed isn't a problem? I could see my daughter popping off a capacitor lol

Why your daughter would have this in her hands is beyond me. Keep it put away when not in use. Seems like a lot of worry for something that has a simple solution.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: YANDMAN on December 23, 2013, 08:27:14 PM
$150 is a ripoff even if you're talking about the fancy SAG version. The regular $79 version, however, is worth every penny and you can buy it direct right here.

http://shop.retrogate.com/Turbo-EverDrive-TURBO-ED.htm


I want one but funstock sell this Krizz version for £100 in the u.k
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: toymachine78 on December 23, 2013, 11:38:40 PM
Sir, do you not have kids? They find a way to get into EVERYTHING. Especially my gaming stuff. Its in an entertainment table in the family room.

Hmmmm..... I guess I could store the ever drive in the medicine cabinet. No, then the wife would find it and think it was a broken electronic gadget and throw it out... Damn it to hell!!!!  :D
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Bonknuts on December 24, 2013, 02:58:54 AM
$150?? I just bought mine for $68 shipped last month (though still waiting to receive it - shipping is slow).
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Greg2600 on December 24, 2013, 06:55:09 AM
http://www.stoneagegamer.com/turbo-everdrive-deluxe.html

Of all the SAG Deluxe editions, I felt this one was the nicest, with the most work put into.  The case is excellent.  I was very happy to get one in the first batch.  But it's not for everyone.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Joe Redifer on December 24, 2013, 07:43:16 AM
I agree with others that the TED is really tough and the 3D printed cover (like the one on Game Sack) is only for looks. Tough it feels a little better when handling as well, but that's no biggie.

Quote from: Chris Covell

Though the US/JP switch broke *off* within 5 cycles of normal use.  X-P

Daayuum! I've flipped mine back and forth once when I got it just to make sure the switch moved. Then I switched it again to try it with my PC Engine to TurboGrafx adapter. Then I finally switched it back to US where it shall now live forever. That's still extremely awesome that such a switch is there, though.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Bonknuts on December 24, 2013, 09:22:41 AM
http://www.stoneagegamer.com/turbo-everdrive-deluxe.html

Of all the SAG Deluxe editions, I felt this one was the nicest, with the most work put into.  The case is excellent.  I was very happy to get one in the first batch.  But it's not for everyone.


 Site states that they are no longer coating them with black epoxy. Because of thickness issues, but yet they are still shooting a clear on it? Or is that clear coat from the factory already? I have experience with shooting different types of paint (including aircraft and such nasty stuffs. You can still get it here in AZ) - with stuff that's really thin (build up wise). I'm gonna look into that, when I get mine.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: ccovell on December 24, 2013, 10:10:01 AM
No, then the wife would find it and think it was a broken electronic gadget and throw it out... Damn it to hell!!!!

Keep it in your wallet at all times.  There's a reason it's card-sized.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Bonknuts on December 24, 2013, 12:18:35 PM
Heh - I just got mine today :D
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: technozombie on December 24, 2013, 03:09:24 PM
I'm thinking of getting one of those, I've been scouring ebay and turbo games are through the roof. :(
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Joe Redifer on December 24, 2013, 04:31:37 PM
Well Bonknuts does it support more than 2 megabytes?
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: wyndcrosser on December 26, 2013, 06:37:04 AM
it supports all current games, even Street Fighter 2.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Black Tiger on December 26, 2013, 06:56:28 AM
it supports all current games, even Street Fighter 2.

They're more interested in non-current games like SFII Turbo/Hyper Fighting.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: toymachine78 on December 27, 2013, 03:12:52 AM
Can you hook the everdrive up to a PC via USB and transfer games to the SD card? In other words, use it like a mobile storage device.

 Just wondering if I need the USB port.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Bernie on December 27, 2013, 04:02:46 AM
Can you hook the everdrive up to a PC via USB and transfer games to the SD card? In other words, use it like a mobile storage device.

 Just wondering if I need the USB port.

You do not need the USB port.  Its there for Homebrewers.  Just get the board.  Micro-SD cards are easily transferred from the slot to the PC.  :) 
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: toymachine78 on December 27, 2013, 04:40:28 AM
Cool thanks! Got one on the way!  :dance:
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Bonknuts on December 27, 2013, 04:49:44 AM
Well Bonknuts does it support more than 2 megabytes?

 I'll find out today :)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: esteban on December 27, 2013, 05:01:43 AM

Well Bonknuts does it support more than 2 megabytes?


 I'll find out today :)


The tension builds...

 (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcg0.png)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Bonknuts on December 27, 2013, 09:08:33 AM
The TOS rom that loads on start, won't accept anything larger than 2.5megabytes (error 140). The card doesn't respond to anything in the $1ff4-1fff range when mapped (last bank mapped remains as is). So I have no idea why the mention 8megabyte rom support on all the TE sites. Krikzz mentioned that he thought it would load up to a 4megabyte rom, but even if I got past error 140 (probably rom size to big) - there doesn't seem to be a way to even access it. A shame really, 'cause I made a post about this before the card was released - asking for the full SF2 mapper range. Oh well.

 The other thing of interest; Populous works. Well, the original rom works. My custom rom with the same unlock codes - doesn't get access to the extended ram. Either I missed something or the TOS loader is specifically enabling that support based on some sort of rom ID process.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: esteban on December 27, 2013, 09:23:18 AM

The TOS rom that loads on start, won't accept anything larger than 2.5megabytes (error 140). The card doesn't respond to anything in the $1ff4-1fff range when mapped (last bank mapped remains as is). So I have no idea why the mention 8megabyte rom support on all the TE sites. Krikzz mentioned that he thought it would load up to a 4megabyte rom, but even if I got past error 140 (probably rom size to big) - there doesn't seem to be a way to even access it. A shame really, 'cause I made a post about this before the card was released - asking for the full SF2 mapper range. Oh well.

 The other thing of interest; Populous works. Well, the original rom works. My custom rom with the same unlock codes - doesn't get access to the extended ram. Either I missed something or the TOS loader is specifically enabling that support based on some sort of rom ID process.


Damn. (http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgsad.png)
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Joe Redifer on December 27, 2013, 10:16:31 AM
Chilly Willy said he was working on a unified OS for all Everdrives and I assume that includes the TED. As a homebrewer himself he may make any space that's actually there accessible. I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: Turbo Everdrive
Post by: Bonknuts on December 27, 2013, 10:32:15 AM
Chilly Willy said he was working on a unified OS for all Everdrives and I assume that includes the TED. As a homebrewer himself he may make any space that's actually there accessible. I guess we'll see.

 I wonder who wrote/made the TOS rom for the TE. I did ask Krikzz if the fpga could be updated to support new hardware (specifically asked for full sf2 mapper range), but he said that can't be done through SD card.
 
 I do know that the 64k of base CD ram is there (as it should be), so I'm gonna continue with the SF2 graphic upgrades. The nice thing about the card, is that it allows for hucard+cdram or hucard+cd projects. I've heard reports that people with Duo and SuperCDROM units, can actually use the system card 3.0 and still run SuperCD games. I'll believe that when I see it (it's not supposed to work like that. CD 2.0 yeah, but not CD 3.0). But if that is true, that'll be a pretty nice feature for CD translators. Most of the system card rom is just 12x12 and 16x16 SJIS fonts, which isn't needed for English translation games. You could put custom fonts in that space as well as custom code. Not even just translations, but homebrew CD games. I haven't tested that out, because I need to take apart my CD drive and reassemble it (last time I took it apart, I didn't put it back together right and the CD spindle is sitting too low for the CD to spin).

 Edit: Seems there's something weird with this card and Duo/SuperCDROM units. I'm hoping it's a clever feature on the card and not just a matter of a bus conflict losing to hucard open bus area (unmapped/non-mirrored rom). Supposedly, Populous only works with the TE card on Duo/SuperCDROM units. Not the older CD addon units.