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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => TG-16/TE/TurboDuo Sales & Trades => Topic started by: aaronl on January 13, 2014, 01:29:10 AM
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Hi Guys,
I got some graphics done and made up some TurboGrafX 16 shirts if anyone is interested.
Here is the link to the order page:
http://www.videogameattic.com/tg16shirts.html
Thanks!
- Aaron
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Are there any pics?
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The artwork is on that order page
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Maybe its cuz im on a mobile android, but all I get is a black screen w/ a order button and title at the top....weird
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I am interested aaron but I don't see Medium. Do you have size in inches for the shirts or the manufacturer and style?
Thanks
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The artwork is on that order page
I think he meant do you have a pic of what the shirt actually looks like for reference purposes? Thanks!
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I am interested aaron but I don't see Medium. Do you have size in inches for the shirts or the manufacturer and style?
Thanks
I think Medium is actually SM. I thought it was SMALL, but I've seen other companies sell ass SmallMedium or SM.
Are these Hanes? Is it a silkscreen or a transfer? I've never seen that "higher energy" slogan before either.
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I've never seen that "higher energy" slogan before either.
It was under the logo on most magazine advertisements BITD and I believe some marketing videos had them too... =)
(http://huguesjohnson.com/scans/16bit/TG16-ad.jpg)
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Thanks. Maybe I just tried to block it out of my mind.
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Sorry about that I simply forgot to add medium to the options. I will have the order page updated shortly.
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They are Gilden shirts. Artwork is Transfer. Pre-shrunk.
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I fixed the order page, Medium and 4XL shirts are now available. Thank you everyone for pointing that stuff out for me :)
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Thanks, just place my order
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Awesome thanks :)
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i think i would get one if it was American Apparel. Every Gilden shirt i have gets stretched out and loses its shape
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I was thinking about ordering a shirt from here (see link below) but maybe I'll order from you instead.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbo-Grafx-16-T-Shirt-NEW-NWT-Pick-your-color-size-Video-Game-System-/251384002070?var=&hash=item80212a74b0&vti=Color%09Black#ht_1938wt_896
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I was thinking about ordering a shirt from here (see link below) but maybe I'll order from you instead.
Do one of each and let me know which ones better!
I like this guys design better, mainly due to the extra art on the sleeve. Just adds a little bit to it, not to mention a couple bucks cheaper.
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i think i would get one if it was American Apparel. Every Gilden shirt i have gets stretched out and loses its shape
I never had an issue with Gildan other than the t-shirts never fit me properly. Medium is too restrictive and Large is falling off my shoulders.
Who the hell is buying 4XL?
Are you shipping to Canada?
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I've never had problems with Gilden, and the shirts there on ebay look horrible compared to the ones I'm making.
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just placed my order 8)
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Here are the pics! They came out great!
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Thank you to those who ordered. Your shirts will be sent out asap!
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Is it possible to order one without the "entertainment supersystem" and "higher energy system" phrases?
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Ship to Canada?
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Is it possible to order one without the "entertainment supersystem" and "higher energy system" phrases?
Blasphemy!
Of course, you could always take an Exacto knife and carefully cut away the offending slogans.
(http://junk.tg-16.com/images/pcgs.png)
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It would cost me too much money to send a revised design without the slogan for 1 shirt sorry
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It would cost me too much money to send a revised design without the slogan for 1 shirt sorry
Three, I'm not the fondest of the slogans being on there either and I'd buy 2.
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I would have to order at least 10 for a new design.
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I'd also be more inclined to pick one up if it was just the logo. So you're nearly halfway there! :D
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ALL YOU BASTARDS THAT WANT TO ELIMINATE THE SLOGANS ARE BETRAYING THE TG-16 LEGACY.
TRAITORS, ONE AND ALL.
I wish I was joking, but I am serious. If you were here, next to me, I'd initiate a goddamned INTERVENTION to save your friggin' souls. YOU HEARTLESS BASTARDS.
That is all.
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I'd also be more inclined to pick one up if it was just the logo. So you're nearly halfway there! :D
BALSFEMER!!! NEXT YUO WIL WANT AAARON TO CORRUCT TEH SPELING O F GRAFX TO GRAGFICKS RITE?
</geralds speak>
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I dig the slogans.
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I am working on getting logo only shirts up shortly.
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So, you basically want people to send you $20 for Iron on T-shirts?
(http://www.videogameattic.com/tg16logoback.jpg)
Not to knock the effort that went into venture like this, but why so much? I could make the same T-shirts for around $7 a pop....
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I ordered one, but that was before I realized that the guy was power mad about his dumb Facebook group. Hopefully it's not as bad as it looks in the pics, but I have to agree that it does look like iron-ons.
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You can go ahead and take me off the list of people willing to place an order from you. I'll head over to Cafe Press. Enjoy your Facebook group.
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Ship to Canada?
Twice this guy asked you this question ??? If you pm'd him ok but other Canadians want to know. (( points at self))
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I won't be ordering one of these ever, considering you can't be f*cked to listen to issues that arise from things you are responsible for. For all we know, these shirts could get lost in the mail and you'll just blow it off and tell us to take it up with the post office.
You realize basically everyone in this thread was removed from your Facebook group by that wannabe gamer, Chris Runyon, right?
and all you did in return was lash out, blow it all off, and even block some of us while having your ego stroked by Chris and whoever didn't leave or get booted.
I suggest you do something else here besides try to peddle your wares. You've got a mighty big uphill battle if you want to redeem yourself to actual PC Engine community members.
I've got zero respect for "admins" that can't even listen to problems and take matters into consideration.
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You can go ahead and take me off the list of people willing to place an order from you. I'll head over to Cafe Press. Enjoy your Facebook group.
Unfortunately, the Cafe Press shirts aren't available in black. No Black = No thanks!
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I won't be ordering one of these ever, considering you can't be f*cked to listen to issues that arise from things you are responsible for. For all we know, these shirts could get lost in the mail and you'll just blow it off and tell us to take it up with the post office.
You realize basically everyone in this thread was removed from your Facebook group by that wannabe gamer, Chris Runyon, right?
and all you did in return was lash out, blow it all off, and even block some of us while having your ego stroked by Chris and whoever didn't leave or get booted.
I suggest you do something else here besides try to peddle your wares. You've got a mighty big uphill battle if you want to redeem yourself to actual PC Engine community members.
I've got zero respect for "admins" that can't even listen to problems and take matters into consideration.
I'm not on FB anymore so can you give some context? What happened?
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The OP runs a Facebook group and put some goon in charge as another admin.
Other dude is a bit of a nub collectard.
Basically it went like this:
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=16047.0
Just read that thread. lol.
Long story short:
2nd Admin got mad for being wrong (He called Yokai Dochuki "Shadowland", like a nub).
2nd Admin lashed out about it, most notably at Tatsujin.
2nd Admin pissed off PCEFXers in Group as a result.
2nd Admin deleted posts/removed people because he can't handle his power and sucks at being impartial. (He joined in/instigated arguments and then penalized all participants)
First admin (Adam the Shirt Seller) did f*ckall to remedy the situation. He basically blew everyone off.
When faced with a problem like "Hey, your second in command is a buffoon. What's the deal?", all Adam did was shrug it off and block me on Facebook.
He's now here also, and as you can see, the only posts he has made are to sell his shirts. No participation in the actual forum.
Sure sign of someone who doesn't give a shit about anyone but their self.
Normally, I'm not all about bringing drama from one Forum/Thing to another, but in this case, I'm all for it.
The PCEFXers that aren't on FB need to know that the dude's a dick.
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Yea, f*ck that guy. Thanks for the warning Ark.
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Unfortunately, the Cafe Press shirts aren't available in black. No Black = No thanks!
Yes they are. Scroll down to the bottom of "other styles available" for dark tees (regular, fitted, organic, and tanks).
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It would be nice if this guy actually engaged the PCEFX community, instead all 12 of his posts were done in this thread. No introducing myself, etc .. Surprised so many people actually are buying these from someone who has no history here and seems to have questionable judgment with regards to who they keep in charge of their "projects" (facebook or otherwise)..
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I was the first one to order this shirt from him thru his Facebook group before this drama all started. I received the shirt the other day. Gotta say it's pretty stylish. I also have the shirt from cafepress. This was cheaper and I like the actual t this came in better then the one from cafepress. So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. I don't have any beef with Aaron.
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I was the first one to order this shirt from him thru his Facebook group before this drama all started. I received the shirt the other day. Gotta say it's pretty stylish. I also have the shirt from cafepress. This was cheaper and I like the actual t this came in better then the one from cafepress. So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. I don't have any beef with Aaron.
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Shirts are replaceable, lol.
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Tru dat
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f*ck this clown. He follows the same people he bans from his failbook group on over to here to beg for dollars with his bootleg iron-on t-shirts. What a scrub.
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I just ordered a baker's dozen. I can't wait to wear this shirt every day of the week.
UPDATE: Wait, why is everyone criticizing the seller?
EMERGENCY UPDATE 2: Oh no, looks like I made a mistake. I tried to cancel my order, but I am unable to get my BitCoin refunded! Damn it!
EMERGENCY UPDATE 3: I need help!
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I like how AdamLambert hasn't replied yet. He's probably still sobbing in the corner about what he's done.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE PUT A WALMART MANAGER IN CHARGE OF MY CLUB. HE ROLLED BACK EVERYTHING.
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These babies are whining because I banned them from our Facebook group for acting the same way they are acting now. I had every right to ban them. Go into any facebook group and bash the moderator and you're going to get banned. I reported these people to the moderator and I hope they get banned. They have no right to hurt these T-Shirt sales, they are high quality and are well priced.
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These babies are whining because I banned them from our Facebook group for acting the same way they are acting now. I had every right to ban them. Go into any facebook group and bash the moderator and you're going to get banned. I reported these people to the moderator and I hope they get banned. They have no right to hurt these T-Shirt sales, they are high quality and are well priced.
wow the only baby here is you, grow some thicker skin man, confrontation happens even in real life.
and you reported these guys here? for what... hahaha... wow
EDIT: plus you still have not answered if your ship to Canada... geeez
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Sure, make up more lies about me I don't care, I hope the moderators on here boot you from this forum too. Empty? That's funny 260 people last time I checked.
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These babies are whining because I banned them from our Facebook group for acting the same way they are acting now. I had every right to ban them. Go into any facebook group and bash the moderator and you're going to get banned. I reported these people to the moderator and I hope they get banned. They have no right to hurt these T-Shirt sales, they are high quality and are well priced.
Aaron, you can ban people from your facebook group all day long, but I assure you that your appeal to the mods/admins on this forum will result in only a few chuckles (or, rather, belly laughing lulz). The individuals you have targeted are extraordinary people and have contributed more to the turbografx community than you or Runyon will ever dream of (poorly photoshopped/mspainted meme attempts, title-screen-of-the-day pics, and make believe game titles aside).
I don't think t-shirt sales are the target of those who have spoken out. The target is you and your co-admin on the Facebook group who took it upon yourselves to censor anyone who dared correct your misstatements or call out your childish censorship. It has been a while since I've encountered such pettiness from adults, and it really makes me sad. You shit on people, try to hawk t-shirts on the very same people, then try to get them kicked out of their own home for not liking you?
Classy.
Enjoy being king of your Facebook group. Everyone likes a nice empty echo chamber...
^THIS
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No I don't ship to Canada, and you people are the ones being childish. Getting mad at me because of the Facebook group then coming on here and deliberately hurting my T-Shirt sales. If you have a problem with me, then take it up with me in private.
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No I don't ship to Canada, and you people are the ones being childish. Getting mad at me because of the Facebook group then coming on here and deliberately hurting my T-Shirt sales. If you have a problem with me, then take it up with me in private.
Your T-shirt sales will be affected because you choose to use Gildan to get them made. Gildan makes cheap shit
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Sure, make up more lies about me I don't care, I hope the moderators on here boot you from this forum too.
The odds of Joe Redifer banning any of us before you is 0%.
Your other moderator on your group, Chris, is a poseur. He can sit and act like he has better collections than any of us here. (Collections that would make us puke with envy!, says him), but really,
Have you seen Tatsujin's collection?
Or well, any of ours? He hasn't. Because he is an ignorant joke. If he had such a great collection, he wouldn't be playing games stretched out on an LCD like a total nub.
Plus, does doofy have a Develo box attached to an MSX Turbo R? Probably not. I do, though.
Doesn't even know what either is, probably.
Also, you still neglect to accept that your moderator actively participated in and instigated arguments. He is the catalyst for all the drama you cry about not wanting in your group.
True moderators remain impartial.
We have every right to hurt these t-shirt sales. You and your buddy run a sham of a TurboGrafx-16 group and you're abusive towards real PC Engine fans. You don't deserve the money of anyone here.
You've basically segregated yourself from the rest of the PC Engine/TurboGrafx-16 community.
We are the real community.
Also, we aren't lying about a thing. All of the stuff you goons removed from your group has been screenshotted and passed around for a week or so now. Everyone knows.
Nobody forgets.
No I don't ship to Canada, and you people are the ones being childish. Getting mad at me because of the Facebook group then coming on here and deliberately hurting my T-Shirt sales. If you have a problem with me, then take it up with me in private.
HAH, how can we? All you do is blow off problems that are brought up in private, and then block us.
You blocked me, at least. Without doing a damn thing about your shit moderator. Real great demonstration of how much you care about these things. Failure to acknowledge/address issues your group members bring up is a sure sign of a joke.
You'd rather just "remove all the gremlins" (aka: this entire forum of actual PCE fans), so you and Chris can sit and jerk each other off.
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You clearly bashed me and questioned my decisions on my own forum, I had every right to ban you. This gives you NO RIGHT whatsoever to take it to this forum AT ALL. This issue has NOTHING TO DO with my T-Shirts. You're a coward and an immature crying baby so you have to come on here and try to hurt my T-Shirt sales and make up lies. People like you are disgusting!
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You clearly bashed me and questioned my decisions on my own forum, I had every right to ban you. This gives you NO RIGHT whatsoever to take it to this forum AT ALL. This issue has NOTHING TO DO with my T-Shirts. You're a coward and an immature crying baby so you have to come on here and try to hurt my T-Shirt sales and make up lies. People like you are disgusting!
Coward? Nah. See my edit up there.
Also, I brought the issue here so others can know that you're a tool. Not everyone here Facebooks.
You don't care about this community. If you did, you'd start apologizing for being a dick. and you'd post about things besides your shirts.
and, like I said, you ignored grievances because you're not interested in anyone's opinion except your own.
That's what we call a shitty administrator. Dictatorships are for dicks.
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These babies are whining because I banned them from our Facebook group for acting the same way they are acting now. I had every right to ban them. Go into any facebook group and bash the moderator and you're going to get banned. I reported these people to the moderator and I hope they get banned. They have no right to hurt these T-Shirt sales, they are high quality and are well priced.
I, for one, am glad these guys pointed out what a fool you are. Regardless of the quality of your wares, I'd rather my money went to nice guys and people that are active in the Turbob community.
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You clearly bashed me and questioned my decisions on my own forum, I had every right to ban you. This gives you NO RIGHT whatsoever to take it to this forum AT ALL. This issue has NOTHING TO DO with my T-Shirts. You're a coward and an immature crying baby so you have to come on here and try to hurt my T-Shirt sales and make up lies. People like you are disgusting!
OMG someone bashed you and questioned you on the internet!!!! call the police we have a criminal on the lose.
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LOL keep it up WAAAAH I got banned WAAAAH :'(
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Man I really regret buying one of these now... I just wanted a Turbo shirt to represent my favorite consoles at cons but with all this going on yeah.....
If anything it'll be a nice laugh to wear at cons when people know where it came from. Still waiting for mine to come in the mail.
Reporting people to the mods here is some hilarious shit btw. The best thing about this forum is people are allowed to openly talk and we don't need another human here to tell us how to communicate. I know it's easy for you to just click on that X button on FB when you don't wanna deal with people and the whole idea you that you can just erase someones thought or whatever they posted for the world, took time to think up and type is one of the worst aspects of our digital age.
(http://thelukewarmersway.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/worst-thing-about-censorship.jpg?w=500&h=386)
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LOL keep it up WAAAAH I got banned WAAAAH :'(
I never got banned. Goes to show you just throw that shit out there. I was part of the FB group and left on my own accord. Back on topic though, Gildan is cheap shit. When you decide to make a quality T-shirt, i promise i will buy 1
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You clearly bashed me and questioned my decisions on my own forum, I had every right to ban you. This gives you NO RIGHT whatsoever to take it to this forum AT ALL. This issue has NOTHING TO DO with my T-Shirts. You're a coward and an immature crying baby so you have to come on here and try to hurt my T-Shirt sales and make up lies. People like you are disgusting!
Dude-man, there are only about 20 people that visit this forum and post daily. You aren't exactly reaching the masses here. And every one of them have seen the elementary pissing contest that went on in the FB groups. You don't exactly have a lot of people on your side in these parts, and even less at are willing to buy shirts with iron on transfers. Especially when the crap will be worn off after 3 washes I bet. It all comes full circle, in the end, YOU are hurting your massive t-shirt empire more than anybody.
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Ahh Andrew Darovich, nice to see you again. You guys can all keep hiding behind your aliases and your computers like little cowards I don't care.
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Just keep it up, you're the ones looking like idiots here.
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Ahh Andrew Darovich, nice to see you again. You guys can all keep hiding behind your aliases and your computers like little cowards I don't care.
How is he hiding because he uses a screen name on a forum. Umm 90% of people do that. No one is hiding from you, you banned him from your FB group (real name and all) for calling you out, and you accuse him of hiding?!?!? The whole "say it to my face" shit is so stupid You want me to come to your house and tell you off in person, so what? you can call the police on me or something.
I would hate to see you have a debate with anyone who has a different opinion than you do on something.
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I'm not even on Facebook at all, so no horse in that race.
But keep going, keyboard warrior. Someday you'll buy a clue and realize that you're also using a computer and alias.
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No I don't ship to Canada, and you people are the ones being childish. Getting mad at me because of the Facebook group then coming on here and deliberately hurting my T-Shirt sales. If you have a problem with me, then take it up with me in private.
If they did take it up with you in private, you would probably just tell them to "Get bent, a$$hole" like you did me when I tried to explain why I posted a link to the Turbografx-16/PC Engine group. I tried to explain myself in a calm, nice way and all you could do was curse me and accuse me of trying to "poach your members." If you would refund my money for the shirt I purchased from you.... yeah.... um... that would be great. But I don't see that happening, Just like I never received even so much as a tracking number for it and it's been SEVEN DAYS.
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Im summary: If someone impartial reads this thread interested in buying a shirt they are going to write off all the arguing, because sane people know this is the internet. What they won't write off is that, you haven't sent someone a tracking number and its been 7 days, your shirts are iron on decals that will fade very quickly, you use a sub par shirt company to make your shirts so you can have a bigger profit(Gildan shirts are like $2 a pop)
So in the end, your T-shirts were going to fail, not because of all this arguing, but because its a crap product sold by someone who shouldn't be in the market of selling things
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You guys can all keep hiding behind your aliases and your computers like little cowards I don't care.
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Aaron,
This is Joshua Jaeger (Added so you didn't think I was hiding behind an alias) I'm not sure what sort of inner turmoil you have been going through these past couple days and I'm not even sure what has truly set you off, but I'm recommending you step away from the keyboard and take a deep breath and just relax man. I don't think anyone here dislikes you personally, I know I don't. I was really interested in seeing more of your youtube/streaming Ys vids (Remember me chatting with you about the dungeon a week ago?) and I was genuinely interested in picking up a shirt of yours... but.. .. the fact is, you're wrong.
I feel like the group that you have been moderating on FB is a great collection of people! Sharing all sorts of varying opinions and ideas, it was good conversation! There are probably a half dozen different fb groups dedicated to NEC's little engine that could and I was contributing with comments and pics/vids or whatever on all of them, then I linked up a new group that Rockabilly made and minutes later my post was gone, then I was taken out of the group. I'm not saying I'm totally innocent here with following your 'rules' on posting/participating in your fb group.... but I surely don't think even you can think myself or anyone else deserved to be banned/deleted and dropped from a group of turbo heads, especially after the dust settles after a disagreement about such a silly act as posting a link to a website or another fb group..... can you?
After I noticed I was dropped, I PM'd you as you stated that we should if we had a problem:
Images deleted at the request of aaronl.
And then *poof*, you blocked me. Assuming because I was not agreeing 100% with you on your decision to ban people for not following your laundry list of ever changing rules.....
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I know one thing we agree on Aaron, is that it's your facebook group. You gathered the Turbo masses to join up and be a part of a group that you 100% put the effort into creating. You have every right to accept/deny/ban any people that come to be a part of your group. However, I just don't see how or why someone would want to have a group like that. It's also odd that you call it the "Official" Turbografx group, like NEC/Hudson/Konami are paying you to keep it running or something... Your page is no more official than any other on FB. It's also worth noting that the amount of people that have been flooding to Tat's OBET group or Zach's Turbo/PCE group is a direct result of your behavior towards members on your own fb group. (148 unique new members for the two groups combined!) ((Not bad for 2 weeks ;) )) I hope you'll drop this anger act and just get back to doing what I enjoyed talking with you about- PLAYING TURBO!
Advice: Change the name from "Official Turbografx group" to Aaron's Turbografx page or something like that if you do decide to continue moderating as you do today...
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Now it looks like you have a lawsuit on your hands, nice going.
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I forgot to leave that crappy "official" facebook group... Need to go do that pronto!
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I'm going to suggest to the moderators of this forum that they take every screen shot down and every reference to my full name down immediately or they are going to hear from my lawyer. This is compromising my identity and my personal safety and I will not put up with it. I highly suggest you remove this whole topic and every topic I posted so I can leave this site with my identity safe.
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Ahh Andrew Darovich, nice to see you again. You guys can all keep hiding behind your aliases and your computers like little cowards I don't care.
lol, you realize, everyone here knows who I am, right? Some of these people have met me in person.
Everyone in your group knows who I am too, aside from you and Chris, who can't be bothered to look into who their members are.
Everyone on the internet who keeps track of Aetherbyte also knows who I am, considering my name is credited as Andrew 'Arkhan' Darovich in every game I've made, and I sometimes sign my updates as -Arkhan. I even show up in videos. If you think I'm hiding, it really shows how oblivious you are.
So, really, this is just you being ignorant and trying to sound relevant at this point.
How does it feel to have been ostracized from the PC Engine scene? That's where you're at currently.
I already told your buddy Chris that if he ever tries buying a game from Aetherbyte, it will be promptly refunded.
That goes for you too. I don't want your money. Aetherbyte's games only go to people who deserve them.
I'm going to suggest to the moderators of this forum that they take every screen shot down and every reference to my full name down immediately or they are going to hear from my lawyer. This is compromising my identity and my personal safety and I will not put up with it. I highly suggest you remove this whole topic and every topic I posted so I can leave this site with my identity safe.
It's funny, if we screenshot this entire thread, it will just show you trying to compromise my identity.
So, you'd be incriminating yourself. I'm sure your lawsuit will hold up well in court with your "well they started it first!" defense.
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I don't want your stupid games, I never asked you for them, these posts need to be taken down NOW
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I don't want your stupid games, I never asked you for them, these posts need to be taken down NOW
Stupid games? You've never even played them!
Keep piling on the ignorance. It really suits you.
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Please continue, I love threads like this.
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Sad thing is: I don't dislike you! I just find it terribly amusing the way you've been acting over the last few days, and we're all about the lulz here.
I was fine with Captain Lambert until he let Chris run his group into the ground through excessive use of ignorance.
In my book, if you're in charge and fail to acknowledge that one of your leaders is an idiot and doing it wrong, you're just as guilty.
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it's all about le shadow land!!
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THE LAND OF THE SHADOWS.
That's what that group is going to turn into, thanks to Chris Runyon!
He's probably at Wal Mart right now, playing Shadowland in 16:9 on all the TVs.
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oh just go back to facebook arron or who ever you are, maybe join Pinterest or start scrap booking with your buddies. This place is just laughing at you. A Lawsuit my god... hahahaha.
i wonder how you deal with things in real life.
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... hear from my lawyer.
Make sure you tell him about your fraudulent use of copyrighted/trademarked names and logos.
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chris ruin on
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... hear from my lawyer.
Make sure you tell him about your fraudulent use of copyrighted/trademarked names and logos.
oh. snap.
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oh just go back to facebook arron or who ever you are, maybe join Pinterest or start scrap booking with your buddies. This place is just laughing at you. A Lawsuit my god... hahahaha.
i wonder how you deal with things in real life.
It's gotta be a total wreck in RL....... no re spawn points in RL man
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It doesn't matter what you people say. If my group is so bad, then why do you keep requesting to re-join? Anyway I'm done with the matter. I've contacted the owner of this board and instructed him to take all of my posts down and delete any posts that are in reference to me on this site. I have every legal right to do that and if it's not done, then I have every right to sue for deformation of character and slander. That is all.
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It doesn't matter what you people say. If my group is so bad, then why do you keep requesting to re-join? Anyway I'm done with the matter. I've contacted the owner of this board and instructed him to take all of my posts down and delete any posts that are in reference to me on this site. I have every legal right to do that and if it's not done, then I have every right to sue for deformation of character and slander. That is all.
It's defamation of character. At least know what you're going to Judge Judy about, dipshit.
Also, go edit all your posts yourself so they're blank if you're that upset about it.
and, nobody wants to rejoin your group. I decided against that after you demonstrated that you're a poseur.
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Your character is not being "deformed", as you've succinctly demonstrated your foolishness, naivety, and overbearing nature; nothing that anyone has posted is patently false. Also, there's nothing illegal about someone linking your alias here to your facebook account, as the association can be made with information that you yourself have made freely available.
Please leave. You won't be missed.
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I would like to thank Joshua Jaeger for showing me some respect and deleting those screen shots. Thank you.
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I'm sure a mod will read this in a year, look back on the thread, laugh then close their pcefx laptop or put it into storage for another year or so till the forum crashes again.
BTW I just got my shirt in the mail. Yes it does look very nice but it's a cheesy transfer which I guess will hold up to about 3 washes before it's cracked and peels. I'll have to keep it folded in the bottom of my drawer till I want to wear it. Next time you make shirts you want to last they need to be silk screened.
Also if you deleted all the posts in question on your FB group you won't have any evidence for your lawsuit. If you want a good lawyer that has experience in online bullying I suggest you PM member ProfessorProfessorson and tell him about everything and see if you have a case.
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I would like to thank Joshua Jaeger for showing me some respect and deleting those screen shots. Thank you.
Let me know when you remove my name from here.
Meanwhile, I'm drawing up my deformation of character forms for my lawyer.
lolol.
HE DISFIGURED ME WITH HIS WORDS. HNNNGNFFFFFF
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http://trademarks.justia.com/788/95/turbo-grafx-78895567.html
Just for the record.
Aw yeah. Nothing like making money off a trademark you don't own. That's legal, right?
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"Sure, make up more lies about me I don't care, I hope the moderators on here boot you from this forum too."
-aaronl
moderators, we aint got no moderators.
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Look guys, ok I admit I said some thing I should've said ok. I apologize for that. But can we please come to some sort of understanding and not destroy my safety?
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Look guys, ok I admit I said some thing I should've said ok. I apologize for that. But can we please come to some sort of understanding and not destroy my safety?
Your playing this card to help your "case" You could simple just leave. You can sell your copyrighted shitty turbo shirts to your loyal facebook group. How many of those facebook users have purchased shirts from you anyway? See we are back on topic now.
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Look guys, ok I admit I said some thing I should've said ok. I apologize for that. But can we please come to some sort of understanding and not destroy my safety?
Like I said a few posts back, you have a long, uphill battle filled with apologies and admissions before anyone here's going to take you seriously.
You could start by admitting your 4:3 challenged admin is a dolt.
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Look guys, ok I admit I said some thing I should've said ok. I apologize for that. But can we please come to some sort of understanding and not destroy my safety?
How is your safety being compromised? Your name is already on facebook (and youtube) for all to see.
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LEAVE ME THE f*ck ALONE! IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM THEN f*ckING COME TO OHIO AND SAY IT TO MY FACE
So this gem just arrived in my PM box. I think i fear for my saftey. Time to call the lawyers.
You DO know its called the WORLD WIDE web for a reason. Anything you post is out there and can be shared unless you have explicit rights to the material. Sorry, fagbook doesnt quite count.
By the way, i am in cincinatti in a couple weeks. Want to hang out and talk turbo and t shirts?
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I would like to thank Joshua Jaeger for showing me some respect and deleting those screen shots. Thank you.
I'm not interested in running peoples identity or character/forum presence through the mud, I'm just trying to get you to see how unfair you are treating people. I hope after some time goes by you'll see that all of this banning/deleting/name calling was unnecessary and you are able put the focus back on sharing experiences playing turbo.
Also- I'm glad that some of these guys got their shirts in the mail from you and they seem nice too!
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Please everyone see my recent post on the forum, I accidentally put it under sales etc.. but please read and please accept my apologies for the misunderstandings.
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I just want to take this opportunity to say that i love this place
(Fitting for post #2000 :D)
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oh my god, please go back to facebook... you have a facebook page, that is all you have, you take on an entire PCE and TG16 forum? .... whatever man, i am in the club of i could care less.
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oh my god, please go back to facebook... you have a facebook page, that is all you have, you take on an entire PCE and TG16 forum? .... whatever man, i am in the club of i could care less.
The F&ck eBay Club rules all.
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Now it looks like you have a lawsuit on your hands, nice going.
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I'm going to suggest to the moderators of this forum that they take every screen shot down and every reference to my full name down immediately or they are going to hear from my lawyer. This is compromising my identity and my personal safety and I will not put up with it. I highly suggest you remove this whole topic and every topic I posted so I can leave this site with my identity safe.
and via private PM
GO f*ck YOURSELF
So anyway Mr. Aaron Lambert. To sum all of this up:
You open up a Facebook group, which I am guessing took you all of 5 mins to do.
You act retarded and power mad as f*ck all on your facebook group, and ban people who correct you on your and your other friends behavior and other issues.
You partake in copyright infringement by making t-shirts and selling them that use copyrighted materials belonging to other corporations and entities.
You come to this forum, either totally ignorant to the fact of it being home to everyone you seemed to have banned, or just not really caring because you are so hard up for cash that you think these same people will be suckers for cheap crap.
You now find out that your behavior on one website has followed and ruined your reputation and ability to sell on another website.
You claim comments made about you are slanderous, even though everything stated has been proven as fact by the evidence posted from facebook right down to the pics of the final product t-shirts you are hawking.
You threaten lawsuits in an attempt to destroy any reference to your erratic and abusive activity (I expect people to start saving/archiving every post that has been made, both on here and on facebook to cover yourselves, otherwise this guy might just start lying about the things he posted and what you yourselves have stated).
So, lets get real here. You come to a community to sell items, but don't want anyone to know who you are. Just some mysterious guy with no name selling t-shirts. Yet you use your real name for your profile ID and now claim your safety is compromised? Just how many people or customers have you pissed off that you're now worried people know who you are? You threaten to sue people, along with this website/forum, over your own foolish facebook activity that was re-posted here. No morally responsible lawyer would take your case when presented with all of the facts and seen you are in the wrong.
Also, what makes you think that none of us would not think twice to notify the proper copyright/trademark holders for the logos and catchphrases you are illegally using on your t-shirts? For that matter, what makes you think one of us has not already done so?
You want some advice Aaron L?
1.Close shop. The items you are selling you have no legal right to do until you obtain permission and a contract with the original copyright holders.
2. Never threaten lawsuits on the internet, especially over your own tom foolery that you yourself caused. You be responsible for all of our legal fee's in your supposed suit against us, if you actually filed one, as your own would obviously fail. Pulling a Rising Stuff scares no one on this forum, especially me. You claiming others are slandering you, compromising your safety, or blaming others for damaging your sales is in itself false claim, leans towards slander/defamation of our character, and could possibly be grounds for a lawsuit itself.
A lawsuit involving multiple parties on this forum who would all file together in a huge forum superpac whose goal would be to rightfully and publicaly expose you for every wrong/grievance you had committed against us and to legally and rightfully bankrupt your stupid ass into oblivion with legal fees for attacking and slandering this forum and its members over your own questionable behavior and illegal sales of others work/tradmarks/copyrights that you have as of yet to present any legal right to be able to sell.
Yes, try it, f*ck with us and see how far it will go, how far this community will take it. If you were too stupid to figure it out during the post made in the other prior 6 or 7 pages, consider this the official glove slap of the REAL Turbografx and Pc-Engine community to you, you stupid worthless cunt.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Amakusa666/Tyrion_slaps_Joffrey_zps99aaa475.gif) (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/Amakusa666/media/Tyrion_slaps_Joffrey_zps99aaa475.gif.html)
Concerning any sales matters here: BUYER BEWARE. Seller has presented clearly questionable behavior, and is selling what appears to be illegal goods, as he has as of yet to present a legal agreement between himself and the original copyright owners.
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So Cafe Press has copyrights to TurboGrafX now?
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So Cafe Press has copyrights to TurboGrafX now?
I don't know who runs Cafe Press, and could care less since I have no beef with them, as they have not come here swinging edicks and threatening lawsuits after being exposed for being idiots. Cafe Press is not in question here, this is your sales thread, and your activity is what is in question.
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You're entitled to your opinion I guess.
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You're entitled to your opinion I guess.
It's not opinion, it's fact, something as of which you seem to struggle with. Also, its ironic youd state that we are entitled to our opinion after all of this mess you have done. You back tracking now little bitch?
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Bottom line is this, shirts are done, Chris Runyon is no longer a part of the TurboGrafX Facebook group, all bans and rules have been removed. There was a lot going on behind the scenes that you guys did not see. So I am being unfairly judged for that personally. I apologized for everything irrational that I have said. So on that note this thread can be deleted. I wasn't making a HUGE profit off of these shirts, I make 30k a year in the IT field. I was just trying to make something nice for the community. The shirts are gone so no need to constantly preach about how "shitty" they are. The ones I have for myself are really nice, so I know that's not true.
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Bottom line is this, shirts are done, Chris Runyon is no longer a part of the TurboGrafX Facebook group, all bans and rules have been removed. There was a lot going on behind the scenes that you guys did not see. So I am being unfairly judged for that personally. I apologized for everything irrational that I have said. So on that note this thread can be deleted. I wasn't making a HUGE profit off of these shirts, I make 30k a year in the IT field. I was just trying to make something nice for the community. The shirts are gone so no need to constantly preach about how "shitty" they are. The ones I have for myself are really nice, so I know that's not true.
You should contact the legal copyright/trademark owners now and inform them of the profits you made off the sales. Legally, you are obligated to do so, as you owe them that money. and also, you currently still have said items listed for sale on your website:
http://www.videogameattic.com/tg16shirts.html
As of now it still seems you are illegally profiting off others works/copyright/trademarked materials.
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So Cafe Press has copyrights to TurboGrafX now?
Are you really this stupid? The logos were trademarked, and trademarks only expire when not used officially for years. Since TG-16 games are currently legally downloadable on various platforms, the trademark is still in effect and your t-shirts are in violation of trademark law.
Also, you claiming to be the "official" fan group is copyright infringement. Fair Use would normally allow you to use the TurboGrafx name and various logos for such purposes, but not when you fraudulently claim to be officially sanctioned by the copyright holder.
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Yeah, thanks for reminding me that his facebook page needed to be screen capped to preserve evidence of his questionable activities, so they can be presented to the proper rights holders if need be. His t-shit sales website has also been fully archived just in case he tries to deny what he has done later down the road.
As of now you need to remove both the official seal from your Facebook page Aaron, along with any reference to you being official, and you need to close down this webpage or start listing on it only items that you legally have the right to sell:
http://www.videogameattic.com/tg16shirts.html
And pertaining to any and all sales you have made with others works, you need to contact them asap and inform them of what you did and come to an agreement so you can reimburse them for use of their materials.
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These babies are whining because I banned them from our Facebook group for acting the same way they are acting now. I had every right to ban them. Go into any facebook group and bash the moderator and you're going to get banned. I reported these people to the moderator and I hope they get banned. They have no right to hurt these T-Shirt sales, they are high quality and are well priced.
Man, what an ass you have turned out to be. I actually seen what was going on with the FB group, and never piped in. It was clear in the beginning that you and your so called know it all mod were in the wrong, and did not like being told so, so you waved the ban hammer like some power hungry internet mongrel. It's sad really, because this community could have went a LONG way in helping your FB group and T-Shirt sales. What a waste, and all because of blind pride. You actually banned some of the better PCE peeps, that could have actually brought some knowledge to your group.
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Are you really this stupid? The logos were trademarked, and trademarks only expire when not used officially for years. Since TG-16 games are currently legally downloadable on various platforms, the trademark is still in effect and your t-shirts are in violation of trademark law.
Actually, this may not be true. Not defending making money off of the trademark, but the US Trademark office has declared the TG16 trademark as dead as of 1998/1999.
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4808:3z7m4x.2.2
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4808:3z7m4x.2.1
It's possible that (for example) Nintendo is aware of the death of this trademark, which allows them to use it on the Virtual Console menu. As I understand it, it's not clear if NEC still owns the trademark, as the division of NEC it belonged to no longer exists. They'd have to re-register it, and I'm not sure they have any interest, as the games themselves all went to Hudson Soft. (In other words, there's no reason for NEC themselves to revisit TurboGrafx-16 from a monetary standpoint.)
Just because something is still in use for some legitimate reason, it doesn't necessarily follow that it's actually in use by the trademark holder.
To be honest, I'm just tossing this out there to further this conversation, as I would really like to know how one would even contact the TG16 trademark holder.
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I believe the US allows for trademarking without registration, treating logos and the like as any other work of art (automatically protected). I'd bet Hudson using the logo in recent years reasserted their rights to it, even if they didn't re-register.
That said, Konami gives no f*cks. You could try contacting them to see what they say, but I doubt they'll expend the man hours to research who definitely owns it or draw up some sort of contract to allow its use.
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Seems the FB page has been deleted.
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and nothing of value was lost!
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Seems the FB page has been deleted.
His FB page is still up. He removed artwork but it is still described as being "Welcome to the TurboGrafx 16 Official Facebook Group".
https://www.facebook.com/groups/turbografx16
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I believe the US allows for trademarking without registration, treating logos and the like as any other work of art (automatically protected).
This is correct, as far as I understand it too.
I'd bet Hudson using the logo in recent years reasserted their rights to it, even if they didn't re-register.
I'm not sure Hudson owns the rights though... it was NEC's trademarked logo, so only NEC can resurrect the trademark. Once it's *officially* trademarked via the USPTO (US Patent and Trademark Office), as I understand it, that trademark can only be honored by them or whoever they sell it to, who then has to go and officially make it a live trademark again with the USPTO. Based on those links, I don't think that happened.
Not saying you're wrong or anything (maybe Konami does own it now via its acquisition of Hudson, if Hudson got it from NEC via some agreement?), just saying that the paper trail on the TG16 logo seems a bit weak to go shouting "trademark infringement!" about. I think it would take some serious legwork to find out who actually would legally own the trademark today (if anyone). My suspicion is that the trademark still is NEC's to defend, based on the USPTO filings, and they would care even less than Konami about anything video-game related nowadays. It's possible that Konami/Hudson might use the logo now based on a hunch that NEC doesn't care about it anymore, or it was agreed upon early on that both could use it without any legal worries, even though it's in NEC's name.
All that being said, I'm not defending monetizing the trademark. Just saying there would be hurdles even if you wanted to license it (which you also pointed out).
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Seems the FB page has been deleted.
His FB page is still up. He removed artwork but it is still described as being "Welcome to the TurboGrafx 16 Official Facebook Group".
https://www.facebook.com/groups/turbografx16
Ah, for some reason it's not coming up on mobile for me. I stand corrected.
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Just for the record nobody is currently BANNED right now, you can easily send me a group request and I'll gladly let you in, and again Chris Runyon left the group and he is no longer a moderator, and even he isn't banned. I'm the only moderator of the group and there are no more delete / ban rules other than viruses and actual spammers from phishing sites etc... Yes I was backed into a corner from 2 directions and that's what happened. I didn't have time to review everything that was happening on there because I work 50 hours a week and have other things going on as well.
I'm glad some of you understand what has happened. I'm only human and yes I let a few things get to me that were complete misunderstandings. You can even post a link to the other group on there. I don't mind. Post youtube vids, links, your opinions, go ahead!
The shirts are gone, no longer for sale and never will be again... If that's not enough proof that I was backed into a corner and admitting that I'm wrong, then fine. No big deal. I was NOT trying to make a profit from the shirts, I was offering an inexpensive way to get shirts to the community. There was no even scheme going on to get your money. I make 40k a year salary, I'm fine. Yes they are heat transfer shirts, but they are high quality. They come with washing instructions for the first wash and everything. They were not 20.00 they were 15.00 for SM - XL which in my opinion was a great deal.
Everyone in their lives have misunderstandings and disagreements, and everyone has experienced times where they are stressed out and take it out on the wrong people. That's what happened to me. I'm not out to get anyone or screw anyone over.
The whole lawsuit thing was just fear. I had my identity stolen and I'm still dealing with that. I even have to file bankruptcy because of that. So I freaked out! I have neurological issues which can cause that sometimes. If you want to still be pissed at me, you're more than welcome to. I'm still living and breathing and I have my real life family and I don't need anything else.
I never said I "owned" copyrights to TurboGrafX, I don't know where the heck that came from. I say "Official" Facebook group because YEARS ago when I started it, there were NO TurboGrafX related Facebook groups. I used "Offical" as a very loose term. I do NOT claim to own TurboGrafX.
On that note, I answered all of your questions, nobody is blocked from me personally on Facebook either. You are free to talk to me anytime. I don't know how I can make this any more clear than that.
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How much were you selling the T-Shirts for? ,Before all this
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All prices included shipping
$14.99 for sm - xl
$17.99 for xxl
$19.99 for xxxl
and $24.99 for 4xl
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STATUS: My shirts arrived. I'm keeping 7 of them and sending the rest to Switzerland.