Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: Black Tiger on May 26, 2014, 10:44:24 AM
There is a thread around here explaining Collectards. The Gouging Much thread is also informative and contains many cross referenced examples of proven market manipulation. The "how?" is very simple, the "why?" that too many people will do anything for money and "collecting" is a hobby taken over by very gullible and ignorant people who love when games reach new highs.
Bottomline don't expect logic from collectible markets nor be surprised to see anything happen at any time.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: TheClash603 on May 26, 2014, 10:50:09 AM
Rumor has it that someone has been obsessively posting about TG16 values in public forums, which has even further driven up the value.
There are other things to talk about around here afterall. Don't be afraid to give it a try!
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: MrFlutterPie on May 26, 2014, 11:15:02 AM
I bought a PCE copy of Cotton for $50 and every time I play it I just switch the language to English.
Problem solved :D
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: madboom0522 on May 26, 2014, 11:33:34 AM
Which thread about collectards are we talking about? The one that has been on going, or the one I started? In any event I understand some of these games being rare. I just could not understand the massive jump in a week...
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: TheClash603 on May 26, 2014, 11:41:16 AM
I suppose a more serious response is that there are only 3 bidders, two of which have bid high.
In the online auction world, you really only need 2 guys that desperately want something for the price to increase substantially.
Typically the fallout from these events are 3 or 4 copies of the game get posted in the near future, because everyone wants to sell at this high price. Guy who lost on auction #1 ends up saving a lot on copy #2. Then copies 3 and 4 sell for $100 less than even copy #2. Once value goes down again, the hair trigger sellers decide they want to keep their games.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: jtucci31 on May 26, 2014, 12:42:27 PM
I bought a PCE copy of Cotton for $50 and every time I play it I just switch the language to English.
Problem solved :D
That was my plan for when the time comes. You have no reason not to get it since it can be played in English as well
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: Tatsujin on May 26, 2014, 01:17:46 PM
it's not like collectards ever gonna play their games anyway.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: PunkicCyborg on May 26, 2014, 02:07:00 PM
You might be a collectard if..........
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: BlueBMW on May 26, 2014, 06:55:17 PM
I sold my US cotton in favor of a much cheaper PCE copy.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: seieienbu on May 26, 2014, 08:00:32 PM
I picked up a US copy a year ago or so for cheaper than Japanese copies are on ebay now. I paid less than a quarter of the price of that ebay auction (though I still felt like an idiot for paying that much for a single game).
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: madboom0522 on May 27, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
Alright blue so with that being said, why don't you sell me your us dynastic and get the pce version?....Pretty please....
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: BlueBMW on May 27, 2014, 04:18:34 AM
Unfortunately Dynastic Hero is not among the US games I have. Ive already got the PC engine version.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: Black Tiger on May 27, 2014, 05:37:30 AM
Don't confuse the issue with logic and intelligent discourse.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: 420GOAT on May 27, 2014, 10:14:42 AM
everything turbo jumps from week to week, so i said f*ck it, f*ck all the "super duper raerez" only xxxxxxx copies shit, and get the everdrive. done. ill have the whole collection and my dream will come true!
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: PunkicCyborg on May 27, 2014, 10:57:12 AM
this looks like the classic "oh my god this games expensive" thread then op sells it for "market value" a month later kinda thread
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: madboom0522 on May 27, 2014, 11:21:15 AM
It may look like that, but you will not see me selling my copy period.... It was merely a statement, nothing more...
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: PunkicCyborg on May 27, 2014, 12:14:14 PM
It may look like that, but you will not see me selling my copy period.... It was merely a statement, nothing more...
Why do you care about its value if you don't intend to sell it?
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: HyperionAlpha on May 27, 2014, 12:17:35 PM
Not the only telling comment (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=16736.msg349781#msg349781), imo.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: madboom0522 on May 27, 2014, 12:35:06 PM
That is like asking why there is a thread talking about gouging on here? I only asked if I missed something with such a big price spike. Why are you assuming that I would be selling my copy? You want to check to see if I am a seller? Here you go madboom522 on e-bay. I am a buyer. I have only sold my pc games or copies of us games, of which I offered on here first. I prefer the us release games.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: HailingTheThings on May 27, 2014, 03:42:29 PM
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: Punch on June 05, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
"Magical Limbs - Rasputin can create giant magical hands and feet where his normal hands and feet are located. Stone Body - Rasputin can turn his own body to stone."
hmm... :-"
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: geise on June 06, 2014, 01:09:00 AM
Cotton became stupid in price when "new retro gamers" got into the Turbo.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: galam on June 06, 2014, 01:13:32 AM
Cotton became stupid in price when "new retro gamers" got into the Turbo.
come on...they aren't "new". they have had these games and systems ever since they were kids. especially the ones here where it took FOREVER to get approved access and have been lurking around the boards for years.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: xelement5x on June 06, 2014, 05:27:50 AM
Cotton became stupid in price when "new retro gamers" got into the Turbo.
come on...they aren't "new". they have had these games and systems ever since they were kids. especially the ones here where it took FOREVER to get approved access and have been lurking around the boards for years.
Lol, I forgot about that. I remember it took like 2 months for me to get approval back when I joined.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: Medic_wheat on June 06, 2014, 11:17:47 AM
Cotton became stupid in price when "new retro gamers" got into the Turbo.
come on...they aren't "new". they have had these games and systems ever since they were kids. especially the ones here where it took FOREVER to get approved access and have been lurking around the boards for years.
Lol, I forgot about that. I remember it took like 2 months for me to get approval back when I joined.
Lol man it took me little over a week and I kept thinking maybe I should do it again ....but it just took a little time....
Guess my wait time is a sign it is going faster?
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: toktogul on June 15, 2014, 02:03:08 PM
yea, when it comes to cd based gAmes, if you simply want go play the game, go for the japanese versions. right now, cotton goes for super cheap in Japan. I bought mine for 15$ cib last week for example. i have a huge collection already because i don't have to pay soo much for my games. Of course, its easier for me to access to those games since i live in Japan, but i was thinkig about helping people on this forum by offering an export service. maybe people would be interested in that kind of help on this forum.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: Tommy Vercetti on June 15, 2014, 02:41:30 PM
600 for a game? New systems cost much less than that.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: o.pwuaioc on June 15, 2014, 04:19:24 PM
Is it worth it to grab an $80 PCE version now off of Ebay or wait until the next one comes up for auction?
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: Black Tiger on June 15, 2014, 04:29:30 PM
So it's averages around the $50 dollar mark. That's good
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: toktogul on June 15, 2014, 07:12:05 PM
Right now, you can get a brand new copy of cotton for pc engine for 98$, and a used one for 49$. if you want me to order it from you, i can do it for you. i ship from japan, i dont take profit.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: HailingTheThings on June 15, 2014, 07:23:19 PM
Right now, you can get a brand new copy of cotton for pc engine for 98$, and a used one for 49$. if you want me to order it from you, i can do it for you. i ship from japan, i dont take profit.
Hello, Mister "I live in Japan Guy." I would love it if you made an introduction. Also, what's the cheapest someone could get a used copy of Coryoon off you? :3
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: toktogul on June 15, 2014, 09:02:02 PM
250$ is the cheapest. there is only 5 sellers in Japan atm.
my introduction can be found here : http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=17100.0
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: Medic_wheat on June 16, 2014, 12:39:26 AM
250$ is the cheapest. there is only 5 sellers in Japan.
Higher than I'm willing to go for Coryoon.
I saw one on amazing for $180 a few weeks ago I was playing with the idea of getting. Not sure if it is still there
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: toktogul on June 17, 2014, 12:21:06 PM
on amazon jp and yahoo auctions, the best price is 250$, which is also the ebay price. its rare that ebay and japan share the same price. i can ask my retro shop to check their inventory. they found a pc engine duo r for 100$ with them, maybe they have more treasures!
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: toktogul on June 17, 2014, 12:52:04 PM
I found tatsujin! i was searching for it under 達人, but after checking ebay i realised it was in our alphabet... anyway the price is the same as ebay, 350$. only 3 copies available, so those must be the kind of resellers i hate in Japan ; they check ebay price..... ebay isnt for japan, its for the unlucky outsiders! ;)
i get better deals on average rare games, less luck on those big bucks games sorry
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: HailingTheThings on June 17, 2014, 05:13:03 PM
250$ is the cheapest. there is only 5 sellers in Japan.
Higher than I'm willing to go for Coryoon.
I saw one on amazing for $180 a few weeks ago I was playing with the idea of getting. Not sure if it is still there
There's a few cheaper ones there. [/quot
You are right $150 I sent the seller a question to see if it had the case and manual or not.
That's the thing I don't like about Amazon. The sellers there never seem to list details for whatever game I'm looking at. Plenty of times I've asked about something only to realize it's sold by the time they get back to me. :(
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: Medic_wheat on June 18, 2014, 12:09:04 PM
250$ is the cheapest. there is only 5 sellers in Japan.
Higher than I'm willing to go for Coryoon.
I saw one on amazing for $180 a few weeks ago I was playing with the idea of getting. Not sure if it is still there
There's a few cheaper ones there. [/quot
You are right $150 I sent the seller a question to see if it had the case and manual or not.
That's the thing I don't like about Amazon. The sellers there never seem to list details for whatever game I'm looking at. Plenty of times I've asked about something only to realize it's sold by the time they get back to me. :(
That is one thing I find VARY frustrating. That and it is all stock pictures so the actual condition is unknown apart from a blurb that MIT only say "good condition".
REALLY leaves the thing open to interpretation.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: Sadler on June 19, 2014, 01:25:51 PM
Because I have no life but lots of curiosity, I've been digging through the sales forum in an effort to find the first person to have done a raffle. I came across this post (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4608.msg76642#msg76642) from 2008 which I found amusing:
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I've seen it happen from time to time with records.. something is considered rare/in demand until it is found. I know a dude in Italy bought like an entire pallett of this record, Ventura - Another Time (amazing rec, one of my faves). Well the first sealed copy sold on Ebay for $1200. Now about 200 copies have sold and it's hard to get even $30 for it these days.
Look at Cotton.. the financial cache on that one is falling fast.
Is it possible that games like Dynastic Hero / Magical Chase / Bonk 3 are so rare because the entire stock was never sold ? They're sitting in a warehouse - some of the very last games produced for a system that most would consider obsolete? And do these Redfrog f*ckers now own all this shit ?
BTW: first person to do something raffle-like appears to be Sparky's Power Golf giveaway. (http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6113.0) Also holy crap, some pretty awesome stuff used to pass through these forums. Also :lol: at the fact that 6+ years later the same arguments dominate discussion here. :D
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: HailingTheThings on June 19, 2014, 05:04:50 PM
I just oopsed, didn't realize it has the US case and manual, but the JP game. Sorry.
Title: Re: When did cotton become...
Post by: MrFulci on June 19, 2014, 06:50:00 PM
Yeah, Red Frog, I wonder what happened to all their stock they bought off of TZD when they closed. I recall in their online store they had a Dynastic Hero for sale, $600 or something. They weren't around for too long, because sometime later they had some sort of court case (Not related to TG-16), and that froze up certain things, and their ebay store and website disappeared.