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Title: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: dqualls187 on August 10, 2015, 05:23:38 PM
Being a big Shoot Em Up fan I'm curious what some of the best shooters are on Turbografx and PC Engine. I have some good US Hu Card releases so far. Eventually I want to dive into import & cd games and would like to compile a good list. I know Sapphire is really loved and i actually picked up the PC Engine Best collection for psp a while ago that has Sapphire on it. Would love to get that some day. Wanting to know of other good ones though. I prefer Vertical Shooters but enjoy some horizontal ones as well. Air Zonk is amazing! So if you have some other favorites, please throw out some recommendations.
So far my Turbo shooter collection is: Soldier Blade Super Star Soldier Blazing Lazers Air Zonk Aero Blasters R-Type Dragon Spirit
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: johnnykonami on August 10, 2015, 06:04:49 PM
Spriggan comes to mind.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: o.pwuaioc on August 10, 2015, 06:16:46 PM
Thanks for the recommendations guys! And thanks for the link! This is what I was looking for!
Spriggan does look amazing! Will definately have to pick that up once i get a Duo.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: Dicer on August 10, 2015, 06:41:19 PM
Both Spriggans (I get shat on for liking MkII more but screw everyone) Gate/Lords o' Thunder Download 1 and 2, odd but good Star Parodier Parodius Blazing Lazers Super Star Soldier Final Solider Psychic Storm Both of the Cho Aniki games, despite and because they are so "GAY" great graphics and music R-type of course, I prefer the complete CD
I know I'm leaving stuff out, but others can fill in the gaps.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: imparanoic on August 10, 2015, 07:24:34 PM
Nezxr is decent, technically beautiful and shows what pc engine super cd rom ( seems to be cousin of super star soldier) but hard
Image fight is good, tricky to play, cheap as well
Magical Chase is great and beautiful
Coryoon is good
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: Otaking on August 11, 2015, 12:27:33 AM
To get an idea of the best shooters for system checkout this thread: http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=16970.0
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: majors on August 11, 2015, 02:26:37 AM
I made a new signature for you, dqualls187. You can thank me later. :D
(http://screwthispc.com/random/bigsigdq.jpg)
I have signatures turned "off"....wow, I would really hate some folks based on sigs alone.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: toymachine78 on August 11, 2015, 03:00:26 AM
Shooters that I own:
Aero Blasters Gate of Thunder Lords of Thunder R-Type Gradius II Gofer Blazing Lazers Star Parodier Psychic Storm L-Dis Super Darius Forgotten Worlds Ai Cho Aniki Cotton Side Arms Special Monster Lair(Shooter Hybrid)
Of all of these my favorites are
Blazing Lazers Lords of Thunder Forgotten Worlds
Least favorite:
Super Darius. SD has gorgeous backgrounds, but except for the bosses the sprites are pretty ugly. The game is stupid hard, and the music sucks. That's all.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: galam on August 11, 2015, 03:44:15 AM
a lot of people say good things about kaiden 00 (sp?) i have never played it, but i havent heard anybody complain about it.
i have been enjoying Override which is pretty cheap i believe. Nothing stellar, but solid.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: dqualls187 on August 11, 2015, 03:49:09 AM
It's less hate, and more you need to resize it so it's not so huge.
There we go :) think I fixed it
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: Black Tiger on August 11, 2015, 04:58:07 AM
The term "shoot-'em-ups" is frowned upon around here. We prefer "Shumps".
Too often discussion of "best" lists are tainted by misguided methods of measuring a game's quality. The whole point of games is to be enjoyable and entertaining. I appreciate games ranging from too easy to too hard and don't confuse "accessible" with entertaining.
With that said, here are some of the most enjoyable PCE shumps for me:
Aeroblasters Magical Chase Cybercore Super Darius II Download 2 Cho Aniki Ai Cho Aniki Star Parodia Gate of Thunder Lords of Thunder Sapphire Kiaidon 00 Gradius II Sylphia Spriggan Spriggan Mk2 Macross 2036
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: dqualls187 on August 11, 2015, 05:01:48 AM
The term "shoot-'em-ups" is frowned upon around here. We prefer "Shumps".
Too often discussion of "best" lists are tainted by misguided methods of measuring a game's quality. The whole point of games is to be enjoyable and entertaining. I appreciate games ranging from too easy to too hard and don't confuse "accessible" with entertaining.
With that said, here are some of the most enjoyable PCE shumps for me:
Aeroblasters Magical Chase Cybercore Super Darius II Download 2 Cho Aniki Ai Cho Aniki Star Parodia Gate of Thunder Lords of Thunder Sapphire Kiaidon 00 Gradius II Sylphia Spriggan Spriggan Mk2 Macross 2036
You know, I only used the term "Shoot Em Up" because i got shit for using "Shmup" in another forum. Guess you just can't please everyone ](*,)
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: o.pwuaioc on August 11, 2015, 05:02:26 AM
Don't listen to Black Tiger. It's "shooter" around here, not shoot em up or shmup.
What are we, barbarians?
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: escarioth on August 11, 2015, 05:06:20 AM
Blazing Lasers will always be part of my top favorites since the day i first played back as a kid. :dance:
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: esteban on August 11, 2015, 05:26:01 AM
It's less hate, and more you need to resize it so it's not so huge.
No, I'm very sensitive about huge sigs. I'd rather have no sigs at all than allow imbeciles to have sigs.
Truth.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: grolt on August 11, 2015, 05:30:04 AM
Fitting we have a vertical sig in a shoot em up thread.
I'm pretty terrible at shooters, but I do like playing them. I am still missing a lot of the titans for the system, but of the 10 or so that I've played, I'm partial to FANTASY ZONE for the cuteness, colors and most importantly non-linearity and lack of forced scrolling. It was really ahead of its time and you can see games like ORDYNE piggybacking on its mechanics and style, right down to the upgrade shops mid-level. Plus, the TG-16 port is the best I've seen on home consoles in the US - the Master System version had slowdowns whenever you used the turbo shot. PSYCHOSIS isn't the best-looking game, but the upgrades are unique and it's a lot of fun. DEEP BLUE gets a bad rap and would be a lot better if there were more lives/continues. Next to FANTASY ZONE, at this point I'd have to say I'm most impressed with GALAGA '90. So much charm and personality from that game, with the little classical spaceship dance interludes. It's got a nice pace to it, and some variety going between the standard single screen stages of the original to some scrolling stages and bosses. It just looked like one of the dime a dozen space shooters out there, but the whole thing just really impressed me. The only thing I'm not liking about GALAGA is that the starry background makes it really tough to see the similarly white-specked enemy fire.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: majors on August 11, 2015, 05:30:25 AM
... i got shit for using "Shmup" in another forum. Guess you just can't please everyone ](*,)
First, there is no other forum. Second, this is all initiation hazing...we gotta see how thick a skin you got.
I like my pew pew games.
Personally, I prefer the "shmup" designation, but will respect the preference of the forum. It avoids confusion with light gun games also generally being called shooters, and the "up" in shmup to me works also to signify the typical upwards vertical scrolling of most games of its type. Plus, it just sounds cool to me - like "snes" instead of "S.N.E.S." as purists would have you say.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: o.pwuaioc on August 11, 2015, 05:40:50 AM
Personally, I prefer the "shmup" designation, but will respect the preference of the form. It avoids confusion with light gun games also generally being called shooters, and the "up" in shmup to me works also to signify the typical upwards vertical scrolling of most games of its type.
When a bank robber "shoots up" a bank, they're not shooting vertically. Plus, shmup literally is just the abbreviation of "shoot em up."
Shooter is accurate. People still say RPG even though they could mean everything from hack and slash Diablo II to turn-based Final Fantasy. If you want to be more precise, 2D scrolling shooter? Or, as majors said, pew pew pew.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: grolt on August 11, 2015, 05:57:20 AM
Personally, I prefer the "shmup" designation, but will respect the preference of the form. It avoids confusion with light gun games also generally being called shooters, and the "up" in shmup to me works also to signify the typical upwards vertical scrolling of most games of its type.
When a bank robber "shoots up" a bank, they're not shooting vertically. Plus, shmup literally is just the abbreviation of "shoot em up."
Shooter is accurate. People still say RPG even though they could mean everything from hack and slash Diablo II to turn-based Final Fantasy. If you want to be more precise, 2D scrolling shooter? Or, as majors said, pew pew pew.
I'm aware "shmup" is a portmanteau of "shoot 'em up", I was just pointing out the fitting coincidence that the "up" can also signify the vertical style of those games (I can't really think of any other type of game that exclusively would have all gameplay going upwards on the screen compared to your usual right to left horizontal or single screen gaming).
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: esteban on August 11, 2015, 06:07:54 AM
Personally, I prefer the "shmup" designation, but will respect the preference of the form. It avoids confusion with light gun games also generally being called shooters, and the "up" in shmup to me works also to signify the typical upwards vertical scrolling of most games of its type.
When a bank robber "shoots up" a bank, they're not shooting vertically. Plus, shmup literally is just the abbreviation of "shoot em up."
Shooter is accurate. People still say RPG even though they could mean everything from hack and slash Diablo II to turn-based Final Fantasy. If you want to be more precise, 2D scrolling shooter? Or, as majors said, pew pew pew.
I'm aware "shmup" is a portmanteau of "shoot 'em up", I was just pointing out the fitting coincidence that the "up" can also signify the vertical style of those games (I can't really think of any other type of game that exclusively would have all gameplay going upwards on the screen compared to your usual right to left horizontal or single screen gaming).
A lot of video game genres scroll up: racing-action games (Bump N Jump, Spy Hunter)...
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: dqualls187 on August 11, 2015, 06:09:38 AM
... i got shit for using "Shmup" in another forum. Guess you just can't please everyone ](*,)
First, there is no other forum. Second, this is all initiation hazing...we gotta see how thick a skin you got.
I like my pew pew games.
Personally, I prefer the "shmup" designation, but will respect the preference of the forum. It avoids confusion with light gun games also generally being called shooters, and the "up" in shmup to me works also to signify the typical upwards vertical scrolling of most games of its type. Plus, it just sounds cool to me - like "snes" instead of "S.N.E.S." as purists would have you say.
I don't mean this in a negative way, but you must be young. No one called light gun games shooters bitd and the genre naming has only become disputed by recent generations. Just like how more and more people are trying to use "RPG" to describe digicomics, war sims, adventure games and misc games never considered RPGs before.
Also, "shmups" are not usually vertical. :P
Whenever the shmup discussion comes up, I always ask shmup-users the same question. Do you call beat 'em ups "bmups"?
... i got shit for using "Shmup" in another forum. Guess you just can't please everyone ](*,)
First, there is no other forum. Second, this is all initiation hazing...we gotta see how thick a skin you got.
I like my pew pew games.
Personally, I prefer the "shmup" designation, but will respect the preference of the forum. It avoids confusion with light gun games also generally being called shooters, and the "up" in shmup to me works also to signify the typical upwards vertical scrolling of most games of its type. Plus, it just sounds cool to me - like "snes" instead of "S.N.E.S." as purists would have you say.
I don't mean this in a negative way, but you must be young. No one called light gun games shooters bitd and the genre naming has only become disputed by recent generations. Just like how more and more people are trying to use "RPG" to describe digicomics, war sims, adventure games and misc games never considered RPGs before.
Also, "shmups" are not usually vertical. :P
Whenever the shmup discussion comes up, I always ask shmup-users the same question. Do you call beat 'em ups "bmups"?
That's probably only because Bmups sounds awful. Shumps doesn't sound bad to say, just a little silly. But really though, who cares what its called. He wasn't the one who started calling it Shmups. Obviously enough people use the term that we all know of it so its sort of here to stay. Personally i use Shoot Em Up whenever i'm referring to the genre. Seems like whenever i use Shooter people think i'm talking about First Person Shooters. This is all beside the point anyway as the thread is about good SHMUPS on Turbografx so lets talk about those! I don't want to have to click through 3 pages of Shmup vs Shoot em up vs Shooter talk whenever i pop on to learn about a new great shoot em up i may wanna play.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: toymachine78 on August 11, 2015, 10:55:24 AM
... i got shit for using "Shmup" in another forum. Guess you just can't please everyone ](*,)
First, there is no other forum. Second, this is all initiation hazing...we gotta see how thick a skin you got.
I like my pew pew games.
Personally, I prefer the "shmup" designation, but will respect the preference of the forum. It avoids confusion with light gun games also generally being called shooters, and the "up" in shmup to me works also to signify the typical upwards vertical scrolling of most games of its type. Plus, it just sounds cool to me - like "snes" instead of "S.N.E.S." as purists would have you say.
I don't mean this in a negative way, but you must be young. No one called light gun games shooters bitd and the genre naming has only become disputed by recent generations. Just like how more and more people are trying to use "RPG" to describe digicomics, war sims, adventure games and misc games never considered RPGs before.
Also, "shmups" are not usually vertical. (https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji14.png)
Whenever the shmup discussion comes up, I always ask shmup-users the same question. Do you call beat 'em ups "bmups"?
That's probably only because Bmups sounds awful. Shumps doesn't sound bad to say, just a little silly. But really though, who cares what its called. He wasn't the one who started calling it Shmups. Obviously enough people use the term that we all know of it so its sort of here to stay. Personally i use Shoot Em Up whenever i'm referring to the genre. Seems like whenever i use Shooter people think i'm talking about First Person Shooters. This is all beside the point anyway as the thread is about good SHMUPS on Turbografx so lets talk about those! I don't want to have to click through 3 pages of Shmup vs Shoot em up vs Shooter talk whenever i pop on to learn about a new great shoot em up i may wanna play.
Shmups sounds horrible! I feel like a shmuck just saying it.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: dqualls187 on August 11, 2015, 11:01:55 AM
... i got shit for using "Shmup" in another forum. Guess you just can't please everyone ](*,)
First, there is no other forum. Second, this is all initiation hazing...we gotta see how thick a skin you got.
I like my pew pew games.
Personally, I prefer the "shmup" designation, but will respect the preference of the forum. It avoids confusion with light gun games also generally being called shooters, and the "up" in shmup to me works also to signify the typical upwards vertical scrolling of most games of its type. Plus, it just sounds cool to me - like "snes" instead of "S.N.E.S." as purists would have you say.
I don't mean this in a negative way, but you must be young. No one called light gun games shooters bitd and the genre naming has only become disputed by recent generations. Just like how more and more people are trying to use "RPG" to describe digicomics, war sims, adventure games and misc games never considered RPGs before.
Also, "shmups" are not usually vertical. (https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji14.png)
Whenever the shmup discussion comes up, I always ask shmup-users the same question. Do you call beat 'em ups "bmups"?
That's probably only because Bmups sounds awful. Shumps doesn't sound bad to say, just a little silly. But really though, who cares what its called. He wasn't the one who started calling it Shmups. Obviously enough people use the term that we all know of it so its sort of here to stay. Personally i use Shoot Em Up whenever i'm referring to the genre. Seems like whenever i use Shooter people think i'm talking about First Person Shooters. This is all beside the point anyway as the thread is about good SHMUPS on Turbografx so lets talk about those! I don't want to have to click through 3 pages of Shmup vs Shoot em up vs Shooter talk whenever i pop on to learn about a new great shoot em up i may wanna play.
Shmups sounds horrible! I feel like a shmuck just saying it.
Toymachine? Same Toymachine that just sold me a sweet ass bundle of Turbo games? Lol, or is this another Toymachine? And yeah, it's a dumb word, I'm not denying that.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: turboswimbz on August 11, 2015, 11:08:27 AM
Well I do believe this has been beaten into the ground as a topic and it still isn't old :D, however doing some research out of the 110 Shewties these games have come up multiple times I can remember as being stated as being better than average to great:
Blazing Lazers/Gunhed Cotton Magical Chase Coryoon Nexzr IMage fight Series Raiden Series R type Download Series Rayxanber Series Tatsujin Air Zonk Cyber Core Dead Moon Darius Super Star Soilder Solider Blade Gate of Thunder Lords of thunder Hana Taaka Daka! Kyūkyoku Tiger L-Dis Mr. Heli PAradious DA! Spriggan Mark 2 Star Parodier Sylphia Sinistron
P.S. I am sure there are some I missed
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: ultrageranium on August 11, 2015, 11:25:00 AM
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: lukester on August 11, 2015, 12:04:37 PM
Rock On Toilet Kids Heavy Unit Armed Formation F Lost Sunheart
These should be on your to get list ;)
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: SuperDeadite on August 11, 2015, 12:16:56 PM
For my tastes:
Cotton Sapphire Sylphia
These are kind of specialty choices though. Cotton is cheap enough that I think all should try it, many claim it's way too difficult but I think it's just about right personally.
Sapphire tends to get shit on a lot due to the price, but it truly is an amazing show piece for the system that I think all fans of the hardware should try at least once.
Sylphia costs a lot, is super easy even on the hardest settings, and really isn't that good of a shooter on a technical level. But the pure atmosphere of it is like nothing else. A game I just relax too and let the style and mood slowly consume me.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: Strider77 on August 11, 2015, 07:20:37 PM
In no real order...
Gradius 2 "Super" Darius 2 Lords of Thunder Gunhead Spriggan R-type CD (I like the cheesy music) Sapphire Nexzer (this one surprised me)
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First, there is no other forum.
You lie! I've see you trolling elsewhere.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: grolt on August 11, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
... i got shit for using "Shmup" in another forum. Guess you just can't please everyone ](*,)
First, there is no other forum. Second, this is all initiation hazing...we gotta see how thick a skin you got.
I like my pew pew games.
Personally, I prefer the "shmup" designation, but will respect the preference of the forum. It avoids confusion with light gun games also generally being called shooters, and the "up" in shmup to me works also to signify the typical upwards vertical scrolling of most games of its type. Plus, it just sounds cool to me - like "snes" instead of "S.N.E.S." as purists would have you say.
I don't mean this in a negative way, but you must be young. No one called light gun games shooters bitd and the genre naming has only become disputed by recent generations. Just like how more and more people are trying to use "RPG" to describe digicomics, war sims, adventure games and misc games never considered RPGs before.
Also, "shmups" are not usually vertical. :P
Whenever the shmup discussion comes up, I always ask shmup-users the same question. Do you call beat 'em ups "bmups"?
No because we called them "brawlers". :P
To be honest, growing up I don't remember ever classifying games by genres or types or anything. Sonic was Sonic, Mario was Mario, they weren't platformers, they were different. I'm more against these definitive online creeds that declare how we have to say a word (the correct pronunciation of "gif" for instance) or what term we use to classify a genre. There is no right answer. I'm in my mid-30s; I grew up with games. We called light gun games shooters because all you did was shoot a gun. There is literally nothing else you do. In "shooters" by your definition, you fly around, collect power ups, avoid enemies, and shoot. Seems limiting to classify the genre as "shooters" similar to how the blanket RPG term is often inaccurate at classifying quest-based games. But if that's how you like to identify those games, all the power to you. At the end of the day it's all just semantics.
Title: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: esteban on August 11, 2015, 11:05:20 PM
... i got shit for using "Shmup" in another forum. Guess you just can't please everyone ](*,)
First, there is no other forum. Second, this is all initiation hazing...we gotta see how thick a skin you got.
I like my pew pew games.
Personally, I prefer the "shmup" designation, but will respect the preference of the forum. It avoids confusion with light gun games also generally being called shooters, and the "up" in shmup to me works also to signify the typical upwards vertical scrolling of most games of its type. Plus, it just sounds cool to me - like "snes" instead of "S.N.E.S." as purists would have you say.
I don't mean this in a negative way, but you must be young. No one called light gun games shooters bitd and the genre naming has only become disputed by recent generations. Just like how more and more people are trying to use "RPG" to describe digicomics, war sims, adventure games and misc games never considered RPGs before.
Also, "shmups" are not usually vertical. :P
Whenever the shmup discussion comes up, I always ask shmup-users the same question. Do you call beat 'em ups "bmups"?
No because we called them "brawlers". :P
To be honest, growing up I don't remember ever classifying games by genres or types or anything. Sonic was Sonic, Mario was Mario, they weren't platformers, they were different. I'm more against these definitive online creeds that declare how we have to say a word (the correct pronunciation of "gif" for instance) or what term we use to classify a genre. There is no right answer. I'm in my mid-30s; I grew up with games. We called light gun games shooters because all you did was shoot a gun. There is literally nothing else you do. In "shooters" by your definition, you fly around, collect power ups, avoid enemies, and shoot. Seems limiting to classify the genre as "shooters" similar to how the blanket RPG term is often inaccurate at classifying quest-based games. But if that's how you like to identify those games, all the power to you. At the end of the day it's all just semantics.
Comrade, we can use "shooter" "shooting" or "shoot-em-up" as the general term for a large genre/category.
Then, when we need precision, we can make distinctions between sub-genres.
It is totally helpful and logical to do this.
Any confusion or messiness is the result of an author not being clear about defining his/her definitions.
For example, if I start a post here asking about the "Worst Vertical Shoot-em-ups" on the PCE only, well, most folks would understand exactly what I want.
HOWEVER, there is always room for confusion, so it wouldn't hurt if I included a definition/example of what I consider a vert/hori shooter.
For example: do I want folks to include Galaga 88' and Space Invaders? They are not *scrolling* verticular shewties, but they are "vertiginous shooties"...
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: Otaking on August 12, 2015, 12:15:21 AM
There is also "STG", used mainly by the Japanese.
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Post by: Black Tiger on August 12, 2015, 12:43:47 AM
Lords of Thunder is the world's first and only DVDA game.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: escarioth on August 12, 2015, 02:25:25 AM
just found out about 1943 being on PCengine. is this any better then the one on nes ? :-k (music doesnt seem to be the same) i loved the nes version so much :D
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: Otaking on August 12, 2015, 02:35:32 AM
just found out about 1943 being on PCengine. is this any better then the one on nes ? :-k (music doesnt seem to be the same) i loved the nes version so much :D
I've not played the NES version of 1943 and I've not played the PC Engine version in years. But from what I can remember the game is average at best. The backgrounds are really repetative and uninspiring. Generally a bit boring game.
1941 on the SuperGrafx is excellent.
edit: maybe I should give PC Engine 1943 a second chance as I've just gone and read the Video Game Den review and it mentions "Original mode" which sounds potentially good. http://www.videogameden.com/hucard/reviews/194.htm
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: o.pwuaioc on August 12, 2015, 03:50:16 AM
1943 is way better on the PC Engine than on the NES.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: Spooky on August 12, 2015, 03:59:31 AM
Cotton is cheap enough that I think all should try it, many claim it's way too difficult but I think it's just about right personally.
I'm still puzzled as to why Cotton has such a reputation for being difficult. Sure, the hitbox is larger than most, but there's not a lot of bullets to dodge anyway. Not to mention the PCE version gives you invincibility during magic attacks and has safespots against the tougher bosses. (Then again, most players don't even know about the fairy magic, so there is that to consider...)
Nonetheless, it's one of the all-time greats. The music alone makes the PCE version a must play.
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: sirhcman on August 12, 2015, 04:00:48 AM
My favorite shooter on PC Engine is hands down Kyukyoku Tiger, I love that game and it has great tunes too!
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: escarioth on August 12, 2015, 04:13:26 AM
i have yet to try magical chase... i'm pretty sure the fun factor don't even match the horrifying price hehe
i wanted to go with a pc engine version... :-" and looking a bit everywhere around, even on japanese online stores...... :shock: ... i guess that might not worth the try. [-(
Title: Re: Best Shoot Em Ups on Turbografx & PC Engine
Post by: Black Tiger on August 12, 2015, 04:17:06 AM
just found out about 1943 being on PCengine. is this any better then the one on nes ? :-k (music doesnt seem to be the same) i loved the nes version so much :D
I prefer the gameplay of the NES version. An update of that game with some actual stage variety would have been great.
The PCE version is a faithful enough port of the arcade game by the same name. It adds some exclusive stages, cinematics and music. The music was done by the same guy as Shubibinman/Coryoon/Air Zonk and uses a similar "engine"/style (strong use of samples and some lively tunes).
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Post by: Black Tiger on August 12, 2015, 09:27:19 AM
... i got shit for using "Shmup" in another forum. Guess you just can't please everyone ](*,)
First, there is no other forum. Second, this is all initiation hazing...we gotta see how thick a skin you got.
I like my pew pew games.
Personally, I prefer the "shmup" designation, but will respect the preference of the forum. It avoids confusion with light gun games also generally being called shooters, and the "up" in shmup to me works also to signify the typical upwards vertical scrolling of most games of its type. Plus, it just sounds cool to me - like "snes" instead of "S.N.E.S." as purists would have you say.
I don't mean this in a negative way, but you must be young. No one called light gun games shooters bitd and the genre naming has only become disputed by recent generations. Just like how more and more people are trying to use "RPG" to describe digicomics, war sims, adventure games and misc games never considered RPGs before.
Also, "shmups" are not usually vertical. (https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji14.png)
Whenever the shmup discussion comes up, I always ask shmup-users the same question. Do you call beat 'em ups "bmups"?
That's probably only because Bmups sounds awful. Shumps doesn't sound bad to say, just a little silly. But really though, who cares what its called. He wasn't the one who started calling it Shmups. Obviously enough people use the term that we all know of it so its sort of here to stay. Personally i use Shoot Em Up whenever i'm referring to the genre. Seems like whenever i use Shooter people think i'm talking about First Person Shooters. This is all beside the point anyway as the thread is about good SHMUPS on Turbografx so lets talk about those! I don't want to have to click through 3 pages of Shmup vs Shoot em up vs Shooter talk whenever i pop on to learn about a new great shoot em up i may wanna play.
Shmups sounds horrible! I feel like a shmuck just saying it.
Toymachine? Same Toymachine that just sold me a sweet ass bundle of Turbo games? Lol, or is this another Toymachine? And yeah, it's a dumb word, I'm not denying that.
Different Toymachine. I don't part with obey easily (https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji38.png)
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Post by: SuperDeadite on August 12, 2015, 03:05:09 PM
Cotton is cheap enough that I think all should try it, many claim it's way too difficult but I think it's just about right personally.
I'm still puzzled as to why Cotton has such a reputation for being difficult. Sure, the hitbox is larger than most, but there's not a lot of bullets to dodge anyway. Not to mention the PCE version gives you invincibility during magic attacks and has safespots against the tougher bosses. (Then again, most players don't even know about the fairy magic, so there is that to consider...)
Nonetheless, it's one of the all-time greats. The music alone makes the PCE version a must play.
I believe most people complain about your power level getting divided by half upon death. A few deaths in a row and a lot of people just give up. But I think anyone should be able to clear the first loop, just put both turbo switches on max and never stop firing.
Have you played the X68000 version? It is not a simple arcade port, it is actually a remix version which contains an amazing amount of new content, including completely new boss fights. Almost everything was changed up in some way, even the cloud enemies have new sprites. An amazing version that rarely gets the recognition it deserves. And if you want a real challenge, put the the difficulty on ''You Do!!'' mode and see if you can actually clear the first stage lol.
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Post by: Bonknuts on August 12, 2015, 03:37:26 PM
I love me some shoot 'em ups and shoot 'em sideways!
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Post by: o.pwuaioc on August 12, 2015, 03:46:31 PM
Have you played the X68000 version? It is not a simple arcade port, it is actually a remix version which contains an amazing amount of new content, including completely new boss fights. Almost everything was changed up in some way, even the cloud enemies have new sprites. An amazing version that rarely gets the recognition it deserves. And if you want a real challenge, put the the difficulty on ''You Do!!'' mode and see if you can actually clear the first stage lol.
I never got too far in Cotton on the X68K, so this bit of news is exciting. I wish I didn't sell my Cotton 2 on the saturn; it's a pretty fun game. :? I still need to find a deal on Cotton 1 SCD.
OT: I haven't played too many shmups on the PC-Engine, but the best I've played thus far is Dragon Saber. A huge improvement over Dragon Spirit in every way: faster dragon, smaller hitbox (it seems) autofire built in (thank goodness), a charge attack, and very creative levels. I am no doubt sure the arcade version is better, but this HuCard is one to remember.
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Post by: escarioth on August 13, 2015, 05:14:17 AM
but the best I've played thus far is Dragon Saber. A huge improvement over Dragon Spirit in every way: faster dragon, smaller hitbox (it seems) autofire built in (thank goodness), a charge attack, and very creative levels. I am no doubt sure the arcade version is better, but this HuCard is one to remember.
OOOOOoooooh i totally forgot about this one :shock: damn...so many interesting titles on PC-engine.. i was limited to USA title for so long
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Post by: Spooky on August 13, 2015, 06:12:17 AM
Have you played the X68000 version? It is not a simple arcade port, it is actually a remix version which contains an amazing amount of new content, including completely new boss fights. Almost everything was changed up in some way, even the cloud enemies have new sprites. An amazing version that rarely gets the recognition it deserves. And if you want a real challenge, put the the difficulty on ''You Do!!'' mode and see if you can actually clear the first stage lol.
Yeah I've played it, it's my favorite version of Cotton 1. I have a clear of normal mode uploaded on my channel even. Come to think of it, I think it was you that told me about the X68K port on some other forum a while back lol.
And yeah, "You Do!" mode is completely insane. Spamming barrier magic helps a bit, but even then the furthest I ever got on one credit was stage 3. I wouldn't be surprised if it was un-1ccable, sorta like Mania mode on Flame Zapper Kotsujin.
Galaga'88? Is it good because I saw one for 5 or so bucks!
I like it quite a bit. Less a bullet hell game and more a game that focuses on strategy and efficiency to clear off a screen. The game has a lot of personality with these adorable little space ballet ship dancing interludes and even mixes it up a bit with some scrolling stages to go along with the typical Galaga fixed perspective. Well worth the $5.
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Post by: WoodyXP on August 16, 2015, 04:28:23 AM
Steam Hearts 4 lyfe.
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Post by: esteban on August 17, 2015, 03:03:17 AM
You know... I do not understand all the hype and crazy prices of MUSHA. I think the soldier series smokes it!
Edit: Also why wasn't blazing Lazers/Gunhed a part of the soldier series? It has the same look and feel.
gunhed is not really part of the soldier series, seems to be made by compile in conjunction with Hudson soft, I feels it's semi prequel to aleste series
interesting enough, IMO, nezxr appears a semi sequel as it has similarities to super star soldier consider the co-developers interstate and kaneko worked on both, the difference, is that Hudson soft did not partner on this game and made soldier blade official sequel/ series to super star soldier
I note that a few years later in 1994, Hudson licensed bonk/pc genjin/pc kid to kaneko in similar fashion for the Japanese arcade version of bonk/pc genjin/pc kid which plays significantly different to any of the console bonk/pc genjin/pc kids
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Post by: majors on August 19, 2015, 12:47:14 AM
I played TF 3 for the first time yesterday and it is obvious the two are related. First thing I thought. Gate is the better game IMO
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Post by: geise on August 20, 2015, 02:24:36 PM
Wow I've been away a bit and people still need to make a topic about good pc-engine turbo shooters? Are there not 459876098734506987657483909456 +1? topics about this already, plus youtube, plus romz?
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Post by: Black Tiger on August 20, 2015, 02:44:48 PM
Wow I've been away a bit and people still need to make a topic about good pc-engine turbo shooters? Are there not 459876098734506987657483909456 +1? topics about this already, plus youtube, plus romz?
Agreed, what we really need are more "What's it worth?" threads. :clap:
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Post by: Bonknuts on August 21, 2015, 03:27:42 PM
I played TF 3 for the first time yesterday and it is obvious the two are related. First thing I thought. Gate is the better game IMO
https://youtu.be/ZEMpyATFRQc?t=3m24s
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Post by: T2KFreeker on August 22, 2015, 10:44:30 AM
I'll probably get slammed for this, but I actually LOVE Super Star Soldier and also Cybercore and Sidearms. I know, they aren't perfect games, but they are very well made. Love that stuff. I remember when I was a kid, the first time I played Cybercore, that night I had a nightmare about giant bugs attacking me...LOL. More specifically the giant swooping Mosquito that shoots the I guess power bolts at you as he swoops in a "W" pattern on the screen. Crazy stuff. Yucky!
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Post by: Otaking on August 22, 2015, 11:01:20 AM
I'll probably get slammed for this, but I actually LOVE Super Star Soldier and also Cybercore and Sidearms. I know, they aren't perfect games, but they are very well made. Love that stuff. I remember when I was a kid, the first time I played Cybercore, that night I had a nightmare about giant bugs attacking me...LOL. More specifically the giant swooping Mosquito that shoots the I guess power bolts at you as he swoops in a "W" pattern on the screen. Crazy stuff. Yucky!
You are not crazy. :)
I actually love Sidearms (it is a great game...genuinely: some people get intimidated because the power-up mechanic is a bit tedious...but it was tedious in 1941, too...CRAP, I HIT THE POWER-UP ONE TOO MANY TIMES, I DON'T have time to cycle through again, damn it. Granted, this is intentional, the designers didn't want to make it easy, but they did want to provide you with a very varied selection of weapons, so cycling is a solution...I guess it just isn't as fun as it could be... )
and Cybercore (a solid Xevious mechanic with just enough character and brief moments of inspiration to prevent it from being generic...for example, some of the sound effects are perfect...like when you get hit and you drop down a level—I LOVE THAT SOUND EFFECT. I also love the way it feels when you power-up completely and bombard the ground with a never-ending deluge of surface-air bombs/missiles (whatever they are)...I think the red? ship has the best concentrated wall of death).
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Post by: T2KFreeker on August 22, 2015, 01:36:35 PM
The only downfall I see with Sidearms on the Turbo is the fact that it's only One Player. It was cool on other stuff due to there being the option for Multiple players like the arcade, but still, a solid game and my favorite version of the game, although, isn't there a CD version of the PC Engine? I have never seen it, so don't know what the differences may be.
Cybercore may be considered Average, but I used to play that game so much when I was younger.
After taking some time to revisit the Shooters of late though, I realize how horrible I am at them now. I used to be able to breeze through Super Star Soldier. Now I can barely make it past the first level anymore. It's sad. I needs practice!
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Post by: esteban on August 22, 2015, 01:43:15 PM
The only downfall I see with Sidearms on the Turbo is the fact that it's only One Player. It was cool on other stuff due to there being the option for Multiple players like the arcade, but still, a solid game and my favorite version of the game, although, isn't there a CD version of the PC Engine? I have never seen it, so don't know what the differences may be.
Cybercore may be considered Average, but I used to play that game so much when I was younger.
After taking some time to revisit the Shooters of late though, I realize how horrible I am at them now. I used to be able to breeze through Super Star Soldier. Now I can barely make it past the first level anymore. It's sad. I needs practice!
You have to get Sidearms Special CD for the "B.C." Mode!
I don't want to spoil it for you.
Plus, the Red Book soundtrack is OK (the chiptunes actually might be better, but the soundtrack was never particularly amazing, IMHO. Soundtrack is OK. )
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Post by: T2KFreeker on August 24, 2015, 06:18:10 AM
The only downfall I see with Sidearms on the Turbo is the fact that it's only One Player. It was cool on other stuff due to there being the option for Multiple players like the arcade, but still, a solid game and my favorite version of the game, although, isn't there a CD version of the PC Engine? I have never seen it, so don't know what the differences may be.
Cybercore may be considered Average, but I used to play that game so much when I was younger.
After taking some time to revisit the Shooters of late though, I realize how horrible I am at them now. I used to be able to breeze through Super Star Soldier. Now I can barely make it past the first level anymore. It's sad. I needs practice!
You have to get Sidearms Special CD for the "B.C." Mode!
I don't want to spoil it for you.
Plus, the Red Book soundtrack is OK (the chiptunes actually might be better, but the soundtrack was never particularly amazing, IMHO. Soundtrack is OK. )
I'll look into it. I'm just not down with paying Collectard prices...LOL. As lo9ng as it isn't stupid expensive, I can check it out. I haven't bought a CD ROM game in quite a bit of time, so it might be time to freshen things up a little here, I suppose. So, someone sell me a Sidearms CD, will you? LOL
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Post by: esteban on August 24, 2015, 08:19:39 AM
^ Sidearms has historically been a cheap CD game.
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Post by: T2KFreeker on August 24, 2015, 01:00:51 PM
Yeah, I checked earlier and was really happy to see that. I may indeed track it down now then! I'll also be looking for a few other games I want too that I don't have while I am at it.
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Post by: Black Tiger on August 24, 2015, 01:46:16 PM
Sidearms Special has historically been a great pair of games on CD. Worth buying for the soundtrack alone.
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Post by: geise on August 24, 2015, 02:48:06 PM
I have both and I surprisingly play the hucard more. Both are worth having. I actually prefer the chiptunes. I am crazy.
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Post by: T2KFreeker on August 24, 2015, 03:41:34 PM
I have both and I surprisingly play the hucard more. Both are worth having. I actually prefer the chiptunes. I am crazy.
Why is that crazy? Nothing wrong with that. Just because it's on CD doesn't make it better. I'll give an example. Let me use Legendary Axe II...if it were a CD game, I'd probably still enjoy the Hu Card music more because it's so awesome. I don't know why that game sticks in my mind, but it really is that awesome. To me anyway. Just because it's chip tunes doesn't make it bad automatically...LOL
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Post by: Punch on August 25, 2015, 04:31:43 AM
Yeah not all CD games have better soundtrack by default. One example is Lords of the Rising Sun, the overworld map screen's bgm is poorly made since it loops poorly and it makes the transition from any screen to the map more abrupt (specially considering most songs are slower paced in comparison to it).
The chiptunes from the PCE that beat CDROM digital audio are the reason that makes Arkhan insist in adding chiptune options in his cd-based games.
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Post by: Black Tiger on August 25, 2015, 04:40:33 AM
I have both and I surprisingly play the hucard more. Both are worth having. I actually prefer the chiptunes. I am crazy.
Why is that crazy? Nothing wrong with that. Just because it's on CD doesn't make it better. I'll give an example. Let me use Legendary Axe II...if it were a CD game, I'd probably still enjoy the Hu Card music more because it's so awesome. I don't know why that game sticks in my mind, but it really is that awesome. To me anyway. Just because it's chip tunes doesn't make it bad automatically...LOL
Most PCE games which have Hu and CD versions aren't the same except for music. Sidearms Special for example also adds some nice sampled sound effects to the main game, but also includes an entire separate remake with all new graphics and different gameplay.
Super Darius also adds some samples, but has a unique boss for each of the 26 stages, while Darius Plus has maybe half as many and the arcade has fewer still.
Super Raiden has some extra art and animation, plus 2 new stages.
R-Type is the best example of a CD version being pretty much a downgrade across the board compared to the TurboChip version. Daisenpu Custom and Bonk 3 CD are just overall inferior to the HuCard versions.
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Post by: grolt on August 25, 2015, 04:45:39 AM
I have both and I surprisingly play the hucard more. Both are worth having. I actually prefer the chiptunes. I am crazy.
Why is that crazy? Nothing wrong with that. Just because it's on CD doesn't make it better. I'll give an example. Let me use Legendary Axe II...if it were a CD game, I'd probably still enjoy the Hu Card music more because it's so awesome. I don't know why that game sticks in my mind, but it really is that awesome. To me anyway. Just because it's chip tunes doesn't make it bad automatically...LOL
Most PCE games which have Hu and CD versions aren't the same except for music. Sidearms Special for example also adds some nice sampled sound effects to the main game, but also includes an entire separate remake with all new graphics and different gameplay.
Super Darius also adds some samples, but has a unique boss for each of the 26 stages, while Darius Plus has maybe half as many and the arcade has fewer still.
Super Raiden has some extra art and animation, plus 2 new stages.
R-Type is the best example of a CD version being pretty much a downgrade across the board compared to the TurboChip version. Daisenpu Custom and Bonk 3 CD are just overall inferior to the HuCard versions.
What about Jack Nicklaus' Turbo Golf? I saw the CD version on a YouTube clip and it looked just as terrible as the HuCard version other than some different tunes. Does only the CD version have save compatibility? Seems like such a terrible, outdated game to get two, nearly identical releases.
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Post by: esteban on August 25, 2015, 05:59:12 AM
I have both and I surprisingly play the hucard more. Both are worth having. I actually prefer the chiptunes. I am crazy.
Why is that crazy? Nothing wrong with that. Just because it's on CD doesn't make it better. I'll give an example. Let me use Legendary Axe II...if it were a CD game, I'd probably still enjoy the Hu Card music more because it's so awesome. I don't know why that game sticks in my mind, but it really is that awesome. To me anyway. Just because it's chip tunes doesn't make it bad automatically...LOL
Most PCE games which have Hu and CD versions aren't the same except for music. Sidearms Special for example also adds some nice sampled sound effects to the main game, but also includes an entire separate remake with all new graphics and different gameplay.
Super Darius also adds some samples, but has a unique boss for each of the 26 stages, while Darius Plus has maybe half as many and the arcade has fewer still.
Super Raiden has some extra art and animation, plus 2 new stages.
R-Type is the best example of a CD version being pretty much a downgrade across the board compared to the TurboChip version. Daisenpu Custom and Bonk 3 CD are just overall inferior to the HuCard versions.
What about Jack Nicklaus' Turbo Golf? I saw the CD version on a YouTube clip and it looked just as terrible as the HuCard version other than some different tunes. Does only the CD version have save compatibility? Seems like such a terrible, outdated game to get two, nearly identical releases.
I don't have the CD Nicklaus, but I believe it has extra golf courses on it. That is worth it (I am one of the only people who enjoys ancient, decrepit, slow golf games). :)
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Post by: Black Tiger on August 25, 2015, 06:55:23 AM
Yeah not all CD games have better soundtrack by default. One example is Lords of the Rising Sun, the overworld map screen's bgm is poorly made since it loops poorly and it makes the transition from any screen to the map more abrupt (specially considering most songs are slower paced in comparison to it).
The chiptunes from the PCE that beat CDROM digital audio are the reason that makes Arkhan insist in adding chiptune options in his cd-based games.
Lords of the Rising Sun isn't a good example of chip>CD music, since you're talking about a technical issue and there isn't a HuCard version. Plus that track is one of the many great features of the game and really motivates and makes it more exciting than other RTS games maps.
A much worse case of a technical issue affecting a crucial bgm is the battle music in Order of the Griffon. It cut's off after the first attack and fights can take a half hour. But this isn't an example of CD being better either, as again it's strictly a technical issue that is tge fault of the developer.
Another CD game with a similar upgrade as Sidearms Special is Populous the Promised Lands. You get the regular game and then an entire new and exclusive separate campaign with themes like Bomberman. It's the equivalent of a sequel.
Neo Nectaris is the same, as it contains the entire original.
The myth that CD games are nothing more than regular cart games with CD music and the occasional cinema was perpetuated by Nintendo fans during the 16 & 32-bit generations. Too many still argue this to this day.
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Post by: Punch on August 25, 2015, 08:00:26 AM
I see BT, I was just trying to argue that not all CD games music are better than HuCards and vice-versa.
"CD games are nothing more than regular cart games with CD music and the occasional cinema."
In a way that's right, but only if you consider the "regular cart" as being a huge Neo-Geo style one with more than 4 gigabits of memory to do as you please. Except for maybe disc loading times it basically removes size restrictions for 16 bit console games entirely. But it's not like many people had the knowledge required to understand that back in the 90's.
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Post by: T2KFreeker on August 25, 2015, 08:32:29 AM
Yeah...Nintendo Fanboys of that era really were annoying as all Hell. Sorry, but it's true. I* remember this one guy trying to argue that his Super NES Final Fight was so much better than our Sega CD version. He swore up and down that his version was superior because of sharper visuals and looked so much closer to the arcade version...we just saw envy in his eyes...
Back on topic...I remember the first time walking through Toy's "R" Us back in the day, seeing the Turbo Duo and getting to play the demo for Gate of Thunder! man, I was floored. It was so damn awesome. The graphics were just nice and that soundtrack was so appropriate for the time. I don't know what6 kind of speakers they had hooked up to that little Demo Kiosk, but ti was so throaty and based out, I just kept playing that level over and over again. I then walked over to the glass case to see the system and my heart sank when I saw the price of the system. I then walked across the store and saw the turbo CD system being clearanced out for $100.00 and was so mad because my Mom wouldn't take me to the store to buy one...just an all around bad day other than playing gate of thunder...LOL I still love that game to this day. Awesome shooter and one of my all time favorite shooters...not just for the Turbo, but everywhere.
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Post by: Black Tiger on August 25, 2015, 10:03:53 AM
The first time I saw Gate of Thunder in person I thought that it was a Neo Geo game. And not like, "what is, this like a Neo Geo game? Oh, it's a Turbo game". I had seen some screens in magazines and was as hardcore a game enthusiast as anyone. I was looking at a window display at a Radio Shack, that had 3 TVs, each one running a different console. Not only were Canadian Radio Shacks not connected to tge U.S. chain, but some brought in all kinds of game stuff from other sources. I saw a Genesis SNES and what looked like a Neo Geo demo and figured that this was one of the franchises that did what they want (this wasn't my hometown).
I remember what I thought and felt vividly, as it is tied to my realization that it was actually GoT the first tine I played it after I got a Duo and the memory was still fresh. I didn't pay GoT much attention, because I was interested in finding Turbo games that I couldn't buy at home and the AES was something I'd never get to play. I figured I'd try it out when/if it made it to the MVS back home. But I remember clearly that during my brief glimpses of the intro cinema and a couple stages, how it was obe of the nicest looking/most impressive Neo Geo games I'd seen, how the cinema character art had so many shades and some of that signature Beo Geo color that I wouldn't see on TG-16... and how impressive the only-in-arcades parallax was. I didn't stare too long, because it made me wish I could own a console and game like that.
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Post by: T2KFreeker on August 25, 2015, 12:13:46 PM
The first time I saw Gate of Thunder in person I thought that it was a Neo Geo game. And not like, "what is, this like a Neo Geo game? Oh, it's a Turbo game". I had seen some screens in magazines and was as hardcore a game enthusiast as anyone. I was looking at a window display at a Radio Shack, that had 3 TVs, each one running a different console. Not only were Canadian Radio Shacks not connected to tge U.S. chain, but some brought in all kinds of game stuff from other sources. I saw a Genesis SNES and what looked like a Neo Geo demo and figured that this was one of the franchises that did what they want (this wasn't my hometown).
I remember what I thought and felt vividly, as it is tied to my realization that it was actually GoT the first tine I played it after I got a Duo and the memory was still fresh. I didn't pay GoT much attention, because I was interested in finding Turbo games that I couldn't buy at home and the AES was something I'd never get to play. I figured I'd try it out when/if it made it to the MVS back home. But I remember clearly that during my brief glimpses of the intro cinema and a couple stages, how it was obe of the nicest looking/most impressive Neo Geo games I'd seen, how the cinema character art had so many shades and some of that signature Beo Geo color that I wouldn't see on TG-16... and how impressive the only-in-arcades parallax was. I didn't stare too long, because it made me wish I could own a console and game like that.
That's almost funny...LOL. When I finally got a copy of Gate of Thunder, it wasn't until years later because i never did own the CD interface when I was younger and was way too poor to own the Turbo Duo. I can honestly say though that when I finally got my copy of Gate of Thunder, I was just as impressed with it then, as I was when I first saw it. This was also even after owning Lords of Thunder for the Sega CD. I like Lords of Thunder, but there really is something really awesome about Gate that makes me like it so much more. It's still one of the games I pull out and let people play that want to know what the big deal with the Turbografx is...and just that throaty, heavy metal, deep bass soundtrack makes a smile creep on most people's face. The game is a perfect example of how a shooter should be made. I look at the game now and see the imperfections here and there, but all in all, it's still one Hell of a ride. I sadly, have never beaten the game though. One day I will. I know I will. Funny as it is, it's one of my must own games that I actually own. I have most of them too, most notably missing Beyond Shadowgate though, sadly. That's a story for a whole new thread though as I no longer own it over stupid bungling on my part...