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Title: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: Naniyue on April 04, 2024, 10:27:43 PM

1) Exile.  Try playing the Genesis version AFTER this one, or even worse, on the MSX2, and you'll see what I mean.

2) Lords of Thunder.  The graphics still look better on the Turbo, and the lack of narration adds to the power of the music.

3) Emerald Dragon.  I heard that the FM Towns version has all the music, and the SNES one has an English translation, but the voice acting and cut scenes of the Turbo are AWESOME!!!

4) Ys IV.  I heard the SNES one is canon, but it's such a murky disappointment in comparison to the Turbo! 


Okay, that's just a few.  Feel free to add any others!

Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: lukester 3.0 on April 06, 2024, 03:33:29 PM
Bomberman 94
Dungeon Explorer 2
Truxton
Twin Cobra
Forgotten Worlds
Raiden
Cadash
Monster Lair (could never get far in this one though, its very long)
Fatal Fury Special (but i prefer 2 on genesis)
after burner ii (compared to genesis...32x stomps)
Valis series (all noticeably better but im not a big fan of these games anyway)
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: Naniyue on April 06, 2024, 08:58:07 PM
I did enjoy Crystal Beans on the SFC, but it's still nothing in comparison to DE II!
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: Naniyue on April 14, 2024, 09:50:30 PM
Gain Ground!  The TG has the best version.  It looks and sounds great, and while easier than any other version, is still fun to play.  It's just too bad they didn't give it any cinematics.
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: Paranoia Dragon on July 08, 2024, 10:25:43 PM

1) Exile.  Try playing the Genesis version AFTER this one, or even worse, on the MSX2, and you'll see what I mean.

2) Lords of Thunder.  The graphics still look better on the Turbo, and the lack of narration adds to the power of the music.

3) Emerald Dragon.  I heard that the FM Towns version has all the music, and the SNES one has an English translation, but the voice acting and cut scenes of the Turbo are AWESOME!!!

4) Ys IV.  I heard the SNES one is canon, but it's such a murky disappointment in comparison to the Turbo! 


Okay, that's just a few.  Feel free to add any others!

The SNES version of Mask of the Sun(there's also a PS2 version of Mask of the Sun) used to be the cannon storyline, I believe mainly because Dawn of Ys had Sara surviving, but canonically in Ys 1, she died. Plus Arem was an addition from Hudson.  Now, the cannon story of Ys 4 is Memories of Celceta, which is a great game, but I still prefer Dawn of Ys as the superior Ys 4.
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: ValisLivesOn on December 30, 2024, 03:37:50 AM
I didn't know Exile was also on the TG16, but other than Valis, who's PC Engine CD port is the definitive version of the game, one game I think is better on the Turbo is a game that was originally a SEGA arcade game, that being "Fantasy Zone". That is my favorite version of the game followed by Tengen's unlicensed NES port.
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: seieienbu on December 30, 2024, 05:31:37 PM
The PC Engine port of Shinobi is the best port it had back when.  It's still missing stage 2, bonus stage, and hand-to-hand attacks so it's not exactly arcade perfect, but it plays pretty well and looks good.  If you compare it to the other console versions from back then, you'll really see how it easily sweeps away the competition.

Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: lukester 3.0 on January 14, 2025, 08:53:58 PM
I didn't know Exile was also on the TG16, but other than Valis, who's PC Engine CD port is the definitive version of the game, one game I think is better on the Turbo is a game that was originally a SEGA arcade game, that being "Fantasy Zone". That is my favorite version of the game followed by Tengen's unlicensed NES port.

fantasy zone got eclipsed by a recent homebrew genesis port, unfortunately. same with super darius and soon to be...R-Type
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: Mathius on January 19, 2025, 06:01:44 PM
Bomberman 94
Dungeon Explorer 2
Truxton
Twin Cobra
Forgotten Worlds
Raiden
Cadash
Monster Lair (could never get far in this one though, its very long)
Fatal Fury Special (but i prefer 2 on genesis)
after burner ii (compared to genesis...32x stomps)
Valis series (all noticeably better but im not a big fan of these games anyway)

Tatsujin (Truxton) in the arcade and the MD port are both marred by tinny, irritating instrumentation causing what should be great songs to turn into real ear bleeders. The PCE port fixes this with a soundtrack that's much warmer and satisfying.

As for Raiden we got an even better port on down the road in the form of an upgraded Super CD port with arcade accurate explosions and such. Owning both the card and CD are worth it IMO.
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: _joshuaTurbo on January 20, 2025, 05:30:02 PM
I think SFII CE is overall a better game than SFII SCE.

Music, graphics, voices/sound, and colours. It's better on all accounts. For controls, it's pretty similar, with the Genesis pulling off some extra flash in order to make it "special".
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: seieienbu on January 21, 2025, 05:41:06 PM
I think SFII CE is overall a better game than SFII SCE.

Music, graphics, voices/sound, and colours. It's better on all accounts. For controls, it's pretty similar, with the Genesis pulling off some extra flash in order to make it "special".

It also doesn't have a million combos removed.  The PCE version plays more accurate to the arcade versions of WW, CE, and HF that were on SNES and Genesis.  Special CE was by and large HF with CE palettes and not all the improvements Capcom added in to HF.  It's a weird game that managed to be less fun than both CE and HF while being better than neither at the thing they do well.
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: Mathius on January 26, 2025, 07:51:36 PM
I think SFII CE is overall a better game than SFII SCE.

Music, graphics, voices/sound, and colours. It's better on all accounts. For controls, it's pretty similar, with the Genesis pulling off some extra flash in order to make it "special".

I can't help but wonder if the PCE SFII could've made better use of the system's sound capabilities. While the arrangements are better on PCE the sound is "thin". Like I mentioned with Tatsujin above the PCE can produce warm, breezy tones. I'd love to see some genius hack in an alternative chiptune track.
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: TurboGrafx-16 on February 03, 2025, 02:11:34 AM
Everything is better on Turbo.
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: TurboGrafx-16 on February 20, 2025, 07:21:05 PM
The PC Engine port of Shinobi is the best port it had back when.  It's still missing stage 2, bonus stage, and hand-to-hand attacks so it's not exactly arcade perfect, but it plays pretty well and looks good.  If you compare it to the other console versions from back then, you'll really see how it easily sweeps away the competition.

Best played on a CoreGrafx or other model with a 6280A due to how noisy this game is on a old white PC Engine or TurboGrafx-16.
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: HuDuo on February 21, 2025, 12:39:29 AM
Everything is better on Turbo.

Popful Mail isn't better on Turbo.
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: lukester 3.0 on March 29, 2025, 08:00:14 PM
Everything is better on Turbo.

Popful Mail isn't better on Turbo.

i believe it actually has a couple extra stages, but it would benefit from a fan translation. its more like a 16-bit version of the pc98 once rather than a full remake
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: Paranoia Dragon on March 29, 2025, 11:37:44 PM
Yeah I just consider it a remaster of the PC 88 and 98 versions. I think it has three extra levels, one for each character you can play as in the game.
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: Naniyue on March 30, 2025, 10:24:38 PM
I honestly prefer the Sega CD version. Shock! Gasp! But the PCE one is still fun.  Definitely a remaster, like has been said.
Title: Re: "It's better on the Turbo!!"
Post by: Paranoia Dragon on March 31, 2025, 02:02:12 AM
I honestly prefer the Sega CD version. Shock! Gasp! But the PCE one is still fun.  Definitely a remaster, like has been said.

Same, kind of wish the pce version went in the same direction of the Sega CD and super famicom versions, making it more of a remake rather than a remaster.