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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => Virtual Console TG/PCE Discussion => Topic started by: guyjin on December 11, 2007, 04:55:39 AM
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have you ever re-bought a game for the VC that you own in real life? why?
I actually have several, but most of these were purchased by my former roomate - f-zero, golden axe, and ecco ferinstance.
there is one I rebought myself, however: Bomberban '93. it's much more convenient to use wiimotes and wireless gamecube controllers to play than it is to use the real thing.
how about you?
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Since I don't own a Wii, I find it difficult to buy VC games. If I did have one, I'd probably buy the multiplayer games for convenience.
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How is it more convenient? Simply the lack of wires or something? Why not buy a wireless controller set for your Turbo?
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Well, I do have a wireless set for the Duo, but some of my friends are even more retarded than I am and have problems keeping 'em pointed in the right direction. You have a point though - maybe it'd be more convenient to get new friends. :lol:
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more convenient because: one less console/cart to carry around, and wireless controllers.
it would cost me more to get wireless controllers for the tg16 than it is to simply buy it on the VC.
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more convenient because: one less console/cart to carry around
I guess I don't carry my consoles around enough to be able to relate. :-k
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I haven't... I did however buy games that I use to own.
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If anything, I think it would be inconvenient to have it on the wii. You'd just be robbing yourself of the true experience. But I do own a multi-tap and multiple controllers and the bomberman games for the turbo and pc engine. I guess if I didn't have them, then I would get them for a wii. Also, I think that a pc engine with a bomberman hucard in it is both lighter smaller and faster than the wii (faster in the sense of starting up and instantly playing!)
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more convenient because: one less console/cart to carry around
I guess I don't carry my consoles around enough to be able to relate. :-k
I probably should have mentioned I mostly do this for parties, and since I'm bringing the wii anyway...
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Aha! It's all coming together now.
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To me it is much more inconvenient to power up my Wii and navigate to the game to play it than it is to power up my Turbo (or other console) which turns on instantly. Wireless controllers are inconvenient because of the battery issue. If they never ever had to be changed, then I would approve.
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Wireless controllers are inconvenient because of the battery issue. If they never ever had to be changed, then I would approve.
This is why I want to replace the four AAAs in my controllers with a miniature Mr. Fusion. Does Radio Shack still carry 'em?
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I had good battery life with my cordless duo controllers. But I do see rechargeable batteries being more cost effective.
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Rechargeables are cool, but you still have to change/recharge them, and that is super-ultra gay. What if the batteries start running out in the middle of a game? Some control commands aren't quite making it to the console, but others are. f*ck! Now your own controllers are interfering with your gameplay rather than assisting. Now you have to stop, change batteries and power up the controller again and wait for it's slow ass to sync to the console. Yeah. Wireless SURE IS WORTH IT! If you trip over controller wires, you are a dumbass who deserves to fall on your face. Current wireless technology = teh ghey.
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I had good battery life with my cordless duo controllers.
No kidding. I'm still on my first set of batteries and it's been like six months. By comparison, I've already replaced the batteries in three of my Wii controllers at least once in the same time period.
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ya, I haven't replaced my batteries yet either. And I played through ys with that controller, lol.
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I haven't down loaded any hucard titles that are emulated so far.
Maybe,i will for the cd titles though it would save me the wear tear for my duo-r etc.
Yeah they run better then a pce duo or turbo duo.
Still they won't last forever and will break down in the end.
Even if i do prefer playing the real deal more.
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i've never had to replace batteries mid game; whenever i notice they're even halfway down, I switch 'em out for a fresh pair. kinda hard not to notice since it tells you the battery levels every time you pause.
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I'm sure that the hucards, supercds and duos will outlast the wiis virtual console. Nintendo will not support it forever. Eventually the wii will break down too. That is the time when you'll be glad that you have superior emulation on your computer. But lets not be down, lets enjoy what we got now :)
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i dunno, Nintendo supported the Famicom for a LOOOOOONG time.
the 64DD, however, is an example of something that wasn't supported so long.
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ya, thats what I mean. I don't know how long their other download service support lasted in the past ( like for the sattelaview). I hope for the sake of the people who've unloaded their wallets to Nintendo Corporation that it will be a long time.
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I don't have a Wii but I do have two thoughts on this.
1. One reason to buy the games you already own would to do A/B comparisons on them and see how close the Wii's emulator really gets. You say Soldier Blade sucks on the Wii? Dig it out and prove it!
2. What if Nintendo could find some fool-proof way to verify that you have the actual games (such as mailing in a UPC from the box or something), and when it gets verified, they beam the credit to download that game to your Wii free of charge? That would be cool, but I can't find a way to make it work without the criteria for judgment being easy to reproduce and/or being detrimental to the collector's value of the original game.
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2. What if Nintendo could find some fool-proof way to verify that you have the actual games (such as mailing in a UPC from the box or something), and when it gets verified, they beam the credit to download that game to your Wii free of charge? That would be cool, but I can't find a way to make it work without the criteria for judgment being easy to reproduce and/or being detrimental to the collector's value of the original game.
Never happen. They're selling you the right to play the game on the Wii - whether or not you already own the game is irrelevant (just like nobody will get free HD-DVD or Blu-Ray movies because they own it DVD or get free DVD movies because they own it on VHS, Beta, or CED).
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Never happen. They're selling you the right to play the game on the Wii - whether or not you already own the game is irrelevant (just like nobody will get free HD-DVD or Blu-Ray movies because they own it DVD or get free DVD movies because they own it on VHS, Beta, or CED).
Wow, you're right, I never thought of it that way. Damn. :( Oh well. And BTW YOU FORGOT LASEERDISC.
Nintendo will not support it forever. Eventually the wii will break down too. That is the time when you'll be glad that you have superior emulation on your computer. But lets not be down, lets enjoy what we got now :)
1. Famicom support was only just recently shut down. I think Nintendo will be supporting the Wii for a long time. :wink:
2. That is an interesting question. When the Wii isn't supported anymore, will the ROMs stop working?
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1. Famicom support was only just recently shut down. I think Nintendo will be supporting the Wii for a long time. :wink:
True, if by support you mean providing repairs and parts as everything else was abandoned years ago. Nintendo's support of online endeavors has been short lived at best - Satellaview was online for about five years and the Game Cube has already lost its network support.
2. That is an interesting question. When the Wii isn't supported anymore, will the ROMs stop working?
I wouldn't think so, since they don't require a internet connection for playing.
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I'm sure that the hucards, supercds and duos will outlast the wiis virtual console. Nintendo will not support it forever. Eventually the wii will break down too. That is the time when you'll be glad that you have superior emulation on your computer. But lets not be down, lets enjoy what we got now :)
Can't you transfer VC games to your SD card too? In that case, then you got extra time support with that. I would think that with the Wii being less older than Turbo systems that it would last longer too.
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If that is possible, then how come the roms aren't being shared on the internet? :-k Are they?
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They're tied to the Wii they were downloaded on somehow, if I understand correctly.
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Can't you transfer VC games to your SD card too?
You can, but only for storage. They can't be run off of the SD card. Also if you get a new Wii, the game won't be able to run since they are assigned to only work with the Wii that downloaded the. Digital rights management sucks ass.
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Digital rights management sucks ass.
yeah, it does. one of the few things I dislike about the wii.
I hope someone will have cracked the code by the time it becomes an issue.
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I thought I read somewhere that Nintendo would supply you with new copies of downloaded VC titles if for some reason you had to replace your Wii.
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Can somebody please post the Windows file stucture of a Wii SD card with VC games on it?
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What makes you think the file structure is based on Windows?
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What makes you think the file structure is based on Windows?
Of course it's not. I'm simply curious to what a Wii SD card would look like in Windows Explorer as I do not have a Wii and thus cannot check this myself.
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I know it showed up on my Mac (when I tried it long ago). Can't remember what the contents looked like, though.
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What would be interesting is to copy the files of the Wii SD card to another SD card, put THAT card in the Wii and see if it works (if the DRM was copied to the card or not).