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NEC TG-16/TE/TurboDuo => Virtual Console TG/PCE Discussion => Topic started by: guyjin on January 30, 2008, 07:58:37 PM
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I don't think many here will be suprised at the result for the TG16.
http://kotaku.com/350940/whats-cheaper-used-copies-or-the-virtual-console
NES Games
TOTAL COST - USED: $273.53
TOTAL COST - VC: $288.00
SNES Games
TOTAL COST - USED: $354.38
TOTAL COST - VC: $273.53
N64 Games
TOTAL COST - USED: $169.42
TOTAL COST - VC: $102.00
GENESIS Games
TOTAL COST - USED: $406.59
TOTAL COST - VC: $353.00
NEO GEO Games
TOTAL COST - USED: $135.00
TOTAL COST - VC: $72
TURBOGRAFX-16 Games
TOTAL COST - USED: $1177.67
TOTAL COST - VC: $294.00
TOTALS
TOTAL COST - USED: $2516.59
TOTAL COST - VC: $1325.00
In every case except the NES, downloading VC games is cheaper than getting carts. in the case of the TG16, A LOT LESS. I'm suprised the Neo Geo isn't worse, but then again they haven't released any of the good games yet.
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beh, if I'm spending money like that I like to have something tangible in my house. I have absolutely no interest in the Wii anyway.
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Yeah but if you change "TG-16" to "PC Engine", it will flip the other way around. People just pay way to damned much for US releases.
When I eventually get a Wii, I won't be buying much VC stuff. For the most part the VC releases are more expensive, and I prefer original hardware.
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Just about half that total is made from the recent release of Dynastic Hero.
But unlike other games that are pretty much identical on PC Engine, DH is a real value on Virtual Console for those english speaking people who are looking to actually play through the game.
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Their reasoning is flawed, since there is a tangible difference between a download and physical media with a case and manual. If the game code is the only thing to be considered when figuring the value, then their prices for the real deal should be for bare copies only. I don't know about current prices for the other systems, but the prices that they quote for some of the used TG-16 games is quite high - even for ebay (Bomberman 93 - $80, Galaga '90 - $30, Military Madness - $46, etc.).
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Hahaha, anyone paying $80 for Bomberman '93 is a chump.
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beh, if I'm spending money like that I like to have something tangible in my house. I have absolutely no interest in the Wii anyway.
THEN WHY ARE YOU HANGING OUT IN VIRTUAL CONSOLE DISCUSSION?!?!
Their reasoning is flawed, since there is a tangible difference between a download and physical media with a case and manual. If the game code is the only thing to be considered when figuring the value, then their prices for the real deal should be for bare copies only. I don't know about current prices for the other systems, but the prices that they quote for some of the used TG-16 games is quite high - even for ebay (Bomberman 93 - $80, Galaga '90 - $30, Military Madness - $46, etc.).
Yeah, I dunno what Videogamepricecharts' deal is. I'll look at it more closely when I have more time.
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beh, if I'm spending money like that I like to have something tangible in my house. I have absolutely no interest in the Wii anyway.
THEN WHY ARE YOU HANGING OUT IN VIRTUAL CONSOLE DISCUSSION?!?!
what's your problem?
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He's just playing with you.
But anyway, back on topic, I personally like the VC. Nothing will ever compare to my "real" collection of Turbo games, but the VC is great way for me to download and play some of my Neo Geo favorites as well as the handful of Genesis games I used to love before my Genesis bit the dust.
And nothing's better than being able to play the stuff in 480p.
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And nothing's better than being able to play the stuff in 480p.
Though it's unfortunate that you can't turn off the filtering on the TG-16 games.
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I still haven't downloaded any TG-16 games on the VC. :oops:
I've been meaning to, just to see this filtering that everyone's talking about.
(It's nonexistent on Genesis and NeoGeo titles.)
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Well I still have a regular TV so virtual console stuff looks pretty much the same as my Duo. I really can't even tell a difference on the sound. I haven't dled any CD games yet though. I also couldn't say how it looks in 480p but it would most likely look like Magic Engine on a VGA monitor with bilinear filtering turned on.
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Their reasoning is flawed, since there is a tangible difference between a download and physical media with a case and manual. If the game code is the only thing to be considered when figuring the value, then their prices for the real deal should be for bare copies only.
Its true that they're two different products but although its not a big deal, the VC games do comes with a nice color digital manual that is more useful than most paper ones and you can resume a the last game you played.
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I kinda figured that the virtual console was cheaper than the actual games, haha. I'd like to grab dynastic hero on virtual console.
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And nothing's better than being able to play the stuff in 480p.
Being able to play those games in 240p is far better than playing them in 480p. Native resolution always wins, every time, no exceptions.
Also I am amazed that Neo Geo games cost more in reality than they do on the Virtual Console. What the hell?
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If anything its pretty f*cking pathetic that you can spend less than $100 more on all but the Turbo and get real copies of the games with boxes and manuals.
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Yeah but if you change "TG-16" to "PC Engine", it will flip the other way around. People just pay way to damned much for US releases.
You'd probably still save money on the VC if it was specifically related to PCE games. The usual price for a normal PCE game doesn't really go under $10 online, plus another thing to keep in mind is shipping prices since you generally won't find these games in local stores anymore.
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Yeah but if you change "TG-16" to "PC Engine", it will flip the other way around. People just pay way to damned much for US releases.
You'd probably still save money on the VC if it was specifically related to PCE games. The usual price for a normal PCE game doesn't really go under $10 online, plus another thing to keep in mind is shipping prices since you generally won't find these games in local stores anymore.
You could probably pick up a PCE Duo and all the same games on PCE for the same price or less (loose HuCards of course).
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VC is for idiots who like to pay for nothing (i e every Wii owner in the world). Downloading for free is the ONLY way to go!
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Yeah but if you change "TG-16" to "PC Engine", it will flip the other way around. People just pay way to damned much for US releases.
You'd probably still save money on the VC if it was specifically related to PCE games. The usual price for a normal PCE game doesn't really go under $10 online, plus another thing to keep in mind is shipping prices since you generally won't find these games in local stores anymore.
You could probably pick up a PCE Duo and all the same games on PCE for the same price or less (loose HuCards of course).
Even with shipping from Japan where most of the used PC Engine games come from? I disagree.
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You could probably pick up a PCE Duo and all the same games on PCE for the same price or less (loose HuCards of course).
Even with shipping from Japan where most of the used PC Engine games come from? I disagree.
When you start buying in quantity from the right sellers you'll understand what I mean. Shipping from japan is generally cheaper and faster than from the U.S. or Canada for me. So many(most?) VC games can be found for $0.49 - $5 and you can get a Duo shipped for <$150.
When you factor in the average selling price of Wii hardware today, only the VC release of the few PCE games that are really expensive (no matter what the condition) could offset the overall cost.
But even then, you could buy real PCE hardware and 95+% of the games on VC for less than a Wii + VC.
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When you start buying in quantity from the right sellers you'll understand what I mean. Shipping from japan is generally cheaper and faster than from
the U.S. or Canada for me.
True. Dreamstars shipping on looseys starts at 1.50 (for multiple carts). Hardly a bank breaker.
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This thread was fun to read, but I think the VC downloads really appeal to certain people and, for them, it's convenient.
Personally, I prefer to own an album, as opposed to buying an mp3 from iTunes. Even if the mp3 was significantly cheaper, it still would rarely be worth it, IMO.
This analogy fits the VC as well -- unless a game is absolutely insanely priced (Dynastic Hero, as Black_Tiger mentioned) -- I just don't feel the trade-off is worth it.
Since I can't "rip" ROMs to VC in the same way you can rip mp3's from a CD album, I would buy a few VC games. I'd rationalize this by saying that I was paying for the convenience of using the VC, or paying a few dollars to play a game that would otherwise cost $$$.
I wasted $50+ on cell phone games over the last two years... I paid for the privilege of playing goofy games on my phone. The VC, in comparison, seems like a much better deal! :)
Ultimately, of course, a battered TG-16, custard-caked turbopad + loose hucards > VC any day of the week!
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When you start buying in quantity from the right sellers you'll understand what I mean. Shipping from japan is generally cheaper and faster than from
the U.S. or Canada for me.
True. Dreamstars shipping on looseys starts at 1.50 (for multiple carts). Hardly a bank breaker.
Where are you getting $1.50 from? His/her price for EMS is $12. Maybe $1.50 more for each game?
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Who said anything about EMS?
And I'm getting it from the dozens of times I've bought from them.
taken directly from a loose hucard sale page of theirs-
For North America Area & Europe via Airmail Shipping(no insurance).
1 Hu card =$1.50
2 Hu cards=$1.50
3 Hu cards=$2.50
4 Hu cards=$2.50
5 Hu cards=$2.50
6 Hu cards=$2.50
7 Hu cards=$3.50
8 Please ask us.
This is always how I have my hucards from them shipped- and they come quicker than advertised for me- maybe only three times I've ordered from them has a 1.50 ship taken longer than 8 days- and mostly they come quicker- 4-6 days. Insurance isn't necessary for a cheap loose hucard- and I've always gotten what I ordered. Trust me- I've gotten a decent amount of my 160 hucards from them.
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I usually buy my stuff from Hit Japan. Its $7 air mail for the first game, but only $2 more for every game after that. After shipping its still almost always cheaper than a US seller. Last night I bought Xanadu 1 and Princess Minerva for a grand total of $23.99. Not bad for two decent games. Xanadu is usually more than that by itself, before shipping, from US sellers.
Also, as of a little while ago if you buy a system from him he will give you free shipping on up to 20 games. That's pretty kick ass, IMO. Shipping on systems can get pricey though...
I'm still amazed at how cheap PCE stuff is now. I can remember buying things like Yuna 2 for $70 back in the day thinking it was cheap since other PCE games were $80-90.
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EMS usually takes at least a week and a half to two weeks or more for me, plus there are usually complications with picking the package up locally. Airmail arrives in as little as 2 - 3 business days from japan and is hassle free.
Most of the sellers I buy from charge $5 for one game and roughly actual postage for anything larger.
It can get pricey for postage to ship a console from japan, but the deals are just that much better. Especially if you're willing to buy an incomplete or cosmetically imperfect system.