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Title: Holy Jebus!
Post by: geise on July 05, 2009, 08:54:07 AM
I have no idea if this has been talked about before, but this is mighty interesting. I found this while browsing yahoo japan auctions. http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f76201648 It seems to be a development demo of Sapphire. This one pic shows that they were thinking about different characters. Thought some would find this interesting. Has anyone heard of this before?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Tatsujin on July 05, 2009, 01:37:02 PM
how neat is that :shock:
funny, the game was called something like "sheepfeather" or "sheepwing" then.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Tatsujin on July 06, 2009, 03:24:31 AM
now it's official. thibaut bought it :)
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Arkhan on July 06, 2009, 06:39:21 AM
a development demo of it on a ghetto CD-R?
hmmm
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: geise on July 06, 2009, 06:51:49 AM
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. There were CD-R's back then though. Oh well. All I know is I didn't pay about $1,600 USD for it. Thibaut got it. As he does pretty much everything going by his pcedaisakusen.net profile.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: esteban on July 07, 2009, 09:08:10 AM
Wow. I would love to hear what interesting stuff is on there, with screenshots.
What are the chances that there is a song on there that they removed from the final version? Close to nil, but I can dream...
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Guilherme on July 07, 2009, 10:36:44 AM
They meant the Arcade Card, which added megabits of memory to the Super CD spec.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Guilherme on July 07, 2009, 02:25:48 PM
Sorry, I'm new here... is Thibaut from the forum?
If so, will he rip this game for the community? :-)
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Tatsujin on July 07, 2009, 03:18:17 PM
he's here from time to time. he statet in an other forum, that he will feed us with informations about the game and its differences to the regular one. but i guess, he will not like to share the data as an ISO with us :(
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nat on July 07, 2009, 03:23:42 PM
he's here from time to time. he statet in an other forum, that he will feed us with informations about the game and its differences to the regular one. but i guess, he will not like to share the data as an ISO with us :(
See, I just don't get that. That is selfishness to the ultimate degree and there is no justifiable reason for it.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Tatsujin on July 07, 2009, 03:32:27 PM
he's here from time to time. he statet in an other forum, that he will feed us with informations about the game and its differences to the regular one. but i guess, he will not like to share the data as an ISO with us :(
See, I just don't get that. That is selfishness to the ultimate degree and there is no justifiable reason for it.
Didn't he own the "Off the Wall" (Tengen) prototype? Or maybe he still owns it? Damn.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: geise on July 08, 2009, 01:42:47 AM
he's here from time to time. he statet in an other forum, that he will feed us with informations about the game and its differences to the regular one. but i guess, he will not like to share the data as an ISO with us :(
See, I just don't get that. That is selfishness to the ultimate degree and there is no justifiable reason for it.
Well anyone else that has an ISO of it could say "Hey check out this awesome prototype I scored. I'll sell it to you for $4,000." I wouldn't really want to "share" something I spent $1,600 on. That's another reason none of us are playing Cocoron. Is that selfish?...hell yes it is. If any one of you spent that much on a pce game or prototype would you really say "Here this is for you! I ripped it from my $1,600 cd-r I got." It sucks but that's kind of how I'd feel. I never would have spent that much on a game to begin with so it's kind of a non issue.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Thibaut on July 08, 2009, 02:36:46 AM
Arkhan : All development PCE CD project are on CDR. The SYO Project Sample is limited to 18 copy, certainly for Hudson staff.
geise : The listing from pcedaisakusen.net is not complete, I have several games who are not referenced into this database ;-) And yes I am agree with you. I pay to much money for those collectors, I work so hard all the year to get money with some sacrifices, I can't immediately give them.
esteban : I will receive the Sample friday, then I will do a comparison with the final/commercial version, but in french... Perhaps Tatsujin can translate in english. And yes I have the Off The Wall HuCARD prototype.
Nat : If you want to share data from collector, why don't you buy the SYO Sample for example ?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 08, 2009, 02:49:14 AM
If you want to share data from collector, why don't you buy the SYO Sample for example ?
You're not just a collector- you're a hoarder. Do you know the difference?
As for why Nat doesn't just buy it himself and share the data- I don't know- just a guess- but he probably doesn't have the money to be asking for stuff in your manner-
Here is my PC Engine wanted list, my offers are very serious :
Hucard : All prototypes Sample Hucard Hudson Soft (Kung Fu demo) = $5,000 Battle Jungler (Konami) = $5,000 Youkaidouchuuki Gold = $3,500 Jaseiken Necromancer 3 = $5,000 Dino Force (prototype) = $5,000 Marble Madness (prototype) = $4,000 RPC Genjin (prototype) = $5,000 Snow Bros (prototype) = $4,000 Popils (prototype) = $3,500 Peter Pack Rat (prototype) = $3,500 TV Sport Baseball (prototype) = $2,500 Tsushin Tool (prototype) = $2,000
CD : Cosmic Yakyuuken Kanzenban = $5,000 Tanjou Gekitouhen = $5,000 Active Life Network = $5,000 Hudson School Summer Graduation = $4,000 Super Real Majhong PIV custom special demo disc = $2,000 Super Real Majhong PII-PIII custom special demo disc = $2,000 Pc Cocoron = $3,000
Yeah- that would have to be my guess- I started counting those figures and stopped when it reached $100,000.00.
You see- this is the reason why whoever has these protos/unreleased games choose not to share them with us- because there's lunatic scum like yourself who are willing to pay more than we make in a year as long as the items haven't been played by the common folk- because it makes you feel big. "Look at my games/protos- No one can play them except me! HAHAHAHAHAHA...."
Honestly- It's a bit sickening.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: esteban on July 08, 2009, 04:06:40 AM
Sinistron, no need to be so abrasive. Peace, love and harmony.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 08, 2009, 04:25:09 AM
Well anyone else that has an ISO of it could say "Hey check out this awesome prototype I scored. I'll sell it to you for $4,000."
That would make sense..... if 15+ year old blank cdrs were available and it was remotely possible for someone to make thoroughly convincing facsimiles.
If any one of you spent that much on a pce game or prototype would you really say "Here this is for you! I ripped it from my $1,600 cd-r I got."
Damn right I would. The $1600 is spent and ain't coming back; sharing the prototype isn't going to change that fact. At the very least, I'd share actual in game video and screen shots of any prototypes or super rare titles in my possession; unlike some people that only share a paragraph stating just how awesomely rare and valuable it is and a pic of the game to proove that they posses a copy.
Nat : If you want to share data from collector, why don't you buy the SYO Sample for example ?
I've no doubt that if nat had the inclination to buy one, he wouldn't hesitate to share it with others. Why? Because he's not a selfish scrooge. That said, I am appreciative that you plan to review the disc and compare it to the released version.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 08, 2009, 04:57:08 AM
I've no doubt that if nat had the inclination to buy one, he wouldn't hesitate to share it with others. Why? Because he's not a selfish scrooge.
and that goes for quite a few here who actually give a shit about this community. But yeah seriously- you burn it for the community- you still have your sacred original prototype- no? What's the difference? The only difference is that now others can enjoy it- can't have that though. If they can't afford to spend thousands of bucks like you can then screw 'em. They're little people. They pour their hearts and souls into this console they love and they look out for their community but they aren't big money. Let them dream forever while you hoard and search down all remaining prototypes/unreleased games while waving enough money to buy a house with. God forbid these titles ever reach those who'd appreciate them most.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Black Tiger on July 08, 2009, 08:33:01 AM
I wanted to buy that Sapphire prototype and was willing to pay what it sold for, but couldn't afford it/risk it at the moment. I would've also held on to it while preparing a comparison/full breakdown of the game and would've resold it without making it the iso available to the public. But after recovering some of my investment, I was then going to release it, likely with downloadable cover art(at least a disc label).
Even if I couldn't regain much of what I spent, it would have still been worth it to preserve a piece of PC Engine history. One of the things that scares me is the idea that when some of these hoarders eventually die, many of these rare games/protos will get tossed in the trash as cdrs by people handling their estate and will be lost forever. Look how much original material has been lost by the original developers over the years.
I wish that the people holding on to these games would at least put out full videos of them as well as emulated screen shots.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: esteban on July 08, 2009, 01:01:14 PM
I wish that the people holding on to these games would at least put out full videos of them as well as emulated screen shots.
I have a little for you: Off the Wall Prototype (1992, Atari/Tengen, TurboGrafx-16) (http://archives.tg-16.com/turbo_play_0005.htm#tengen)
Of course, this is part of a larger discussion about the fact that Tengen announced they were planning to port Pit Fighter for TG-CD. Awesome.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Thibaut on July 08, 2009, 08:11:22 PM
Sinistron : Thanks for your nice message... Now I regret that I said I had this Sample. Why big collector keep in the secret ? Because with those reactions. Do you know some collectors who do some reviews with photos and videos about very rares PC Engine games ? Covell with the Tsushin Booster, a little also from Yuki with PC Cocoron, the Hudson School CD and some others Not For Sale items, and... ?? There are MANY rares PC Engine items that we NEVER see, any pictures, any infos, any videos. Why ? Because owners keep in secret to stay quiet. But I prefer communicate about my rares PC Engine that I found 1 or ,with luck, 2 by year. I have done with friends the PC Engine Bible (the history, unreleased, collectors, goodies,...) and I have done some complete reviews on the Nekofan website about Akiyamajin, Off The Wall, The HuCARD Sample, Gradius 2 Sample,... and I continue with this SYO Sample (and I want also do a review of the Silky Lip V.7 the final version, and Super Real Mahjong Special Version,....).
esteban : It's the prototype I win on Ebay on your link. I never see the Pit Fighter prototype, and also never see any preview in all PC Engine mags I have.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 08, 2009, 11:36:08 PM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Black Tiger on July 09, 2009, 01:48:05 AM
I wanted to buy that Sapphire prototype and was willing to pay what it sold for, but couldn't afford it/risk it at the moment. I would've also held on to it while preparing a comparison/full breakdown of the game and would've resold it without making it the iso available to the public.
If you declare this (and thanks for that,at least you're honest), why aren't you BURNED down to the ground such as Thibault is right now on this forum? Why aren't you immediately called a horrible hoarder and a selfish scrooge? Are other members THAT hypocritic? I have nothing against you, but looking at shameful Sinistron,Nat or Necromancer's reactions, such difference in treatment is incredible.
Probably because I said that I would've released the game to the public after copying and reselling it.
I don't think that people like Sinistron disagree with you if it really was as simple as you make it sound to just 'go ahead and buy' things like this. It's not the rare physical copy that everyone wants to see and document for historical purposes, in situations like this (a cdr) it's the game content itself. If Thibaut or anyone else is willing to sell a copy of the Sapphire protoytype for anywhere up to around what he paid for it, then I'll start saving right now and will buy it within a month or some of us could pitch in and buy it tomorrow. The only reason why I would is because the yahoo seller posted screen shots to show what was original about it. It's different than when someone sells a prototype cart as-is.
It's because we rarely find these items available to buy from anyone and when we do, someone outbids everyone else specifically to block the rest of the world from experiencing it. It may be a form of a hobby, but it's still one that is based solely on screwing over everyone else on the planet. That may be their "right", but it's still the action that they're taking and is why it means something to them. I don't get pissed off like many people do, I'm just very disappointed.
Someone recently paid $17000 for one of those rare gold competition NES carts. The cart itself is the rare collectible. Collecting intellectual properties and not their rare containers isn't really collecting anything, it's hiding ideas from others.
But like I said, I'd be happy if each time something like this is discovered, that someone puts out high quality video and screen shots of all the content. That way everyone gets to know what could've been and data collectors get to hold on to their precious bytes.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: esteban on July 09, 2009, 02:06:11 AM
esteban : It's the prototype I win on Ebay on your link. I never see the Pit Fighter prototype, and also never see any preview in all PC Engine mags I have.
I, too, have never seen any screenshots / information about the Pit Fighter port actually being started. For now, it was simply an announcement made at the CES trade show; there is no evidence that Tengen had started development.
Personally, I would have wanted Tengen to port Rampart to the TG-16 :).
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Tatsujin on July 09, 2009, 02:09:24 AM
Personally, I would have wanted Tengen to never develop any games :)
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 02:32:30 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 03:01:18 AM
All other video game communities have their "holy grails", and some people own some. They are THEIR PROPERTIES, and they PAID for it. And they do WHATEVER they want with it. Now tell me, why would get something for FREE, when another one worked hard 3 months for obtaining it? $1600 isn't little money. For me,for Thibaut,or others,probably. Mauybe you're rich,and it's easier for you,more power to you.
We're not rich- and that's the damn point. It's not enough for you to have a full PCE collection- you need the single copies of prototypes that were unreleased- pay big bucks for them and take pride in the fact that no one except you will ever see them. And no one needs it for FREE. Sell copies of the f*cking thing- make your money back- but don't keep whining oh why didn't you buy it yourself to share blah blah blah whimper whimper whimper -- it's so easy for a rich brat to talk this way. We don't make that kind of money to blow thousands on prototypes- and yeah it is that easy to say because all of us complaining DAMN WELL WOULD share this treasure with the rest of the community- you doubting it shows just how far you are from this community. Nat is one of the most altruistic people I've met- and we've all helped out others when we can- we give a shit about this community. NONE of us are hoarders.
If you take the NES scene example, recently DreamTR had a unreleased rom: Mike Tyson's Power Punch 2. Nintendo Age admins asked their members to donate for being able to pay the price: $750 (or something like that). They got the money,they PAID DreamTR, and DreamTR released it. Everyone was happy. I could say the same about Sonic X-Treme for Sega Saturn (i paid myself) on Assembler,etc. But they PAID, and that is NORMAL. There is NO reason why DreamTr (or Thibaut here) would be the dumbass to make a loan or work hard 3 months to put enough money aside for being able to buy it. And what?Give it for free?
Put your money where your mouth is then. Suggest a price the community as a whole pay for you to release the PC Cocoron rom.
After working hard 3 months? Why don't you give me your car for free then? If you don't,well that'd be "selfishness to the ultimate degree", using your words.
LOL. You're saying Nat's reply was dumb? Wow. You're comparing a CAR to a prototype game. Can a regular joe copy a car with zero cost? Do you actually read what you type? And guess what? If I could copy a car for nothing- you're damn right I would.
Grew up,for god's sake. Money don't grow up on trees. Thibaut work as hard as possible to fullfil his dreams, just DO THE SAME. Don't wait the food arrives in your mouth all chewed up (i don't know if that's an english expression), and take everything for granted. If you're honest at least, blame the JAPANESE SELLER for not sharing it, not the ppor guy who sacrificed 3 months of work for obtaining it.
Don't tell me who to blame. The reason the Japanese seller doesn't share it right off the bat is BECAUSE people like you exist- people who will pay big money for a one-of-a-kind item that they get to hoard. It's just a trophy to you. Rationalize it however you will- but that's what it is. Do you plan to ever sell your prototypes? If not- then the whole value decrease argument you state is absolutely pointless. If so- then you're merely a reseller- exploiting the scene for profit- something even worse. I don't think you're the latter- I think you're the type of lunatic to want all these one-of-a-kind items to be buried with you- or to be left to some relative that doesn't understand what he's being entrusted with.
Thibaut posted that list YEARS ago,and so far, NOBODY answered. Even for those crazy prices. So no,he's not rich,not richer than me or you, speaking about $100000 is complete nonsense. If he's a hoarder,you're one as well.
If he's a hoarder- I'm one as well? And you rationalize this how?
They pour their hearts and souls into this console they love and they look out for their community but they aren't big money. Let them dream forever while you hoard and search down all remaining prototypes/unreleased games while waving enough money to buy a house with. God forbid these titles ever reach those who'd appreciate them most.
Unbelievable. Such arrogance is unbelievable. WHO are you to claim such ridiculous assumption that "God forbid these titles ever reach those who'd appreciate them most"? Do you own the absolute truth? Of course NOT. Be humble, and maybe you'd realize that Thibaut,me,or anyone else can be AS passionate about PCE than you are. Even more (yes,that is possible).
Our passions are different- there is a passion for the system and the community- for the preservation of rare items and to "spread the PCE love" so to speak. Your passion is strictly self-serving.
And what is your point with the money?Can't you win it by yourself? How do you dare to assume Thibaut has much money than you? Do you know the sacrifices he make for obtaining such stuff? you don't know a D*MN thing about the guy,but yet you dare making false assumptions. Shame on you.
Lol. I don't give a shit how old his wanted list is- when some clown shows up with a wanted list of every prototype and says that money isn't an issue- yeah- it's well safe to assume that he's either A) batshit crazy or B) loaded.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Thibaut on July 09, 2009, 03:36:07 AM
First, thank you Adol very much for your replies.
Sinistron : A very important point you must understand : I AM NOT RICH !! I work very hard all the year to get money.
And if you want I give to you some prototypes, could you just say please ?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 03:44:20 AM
I personally shared game contents of very rare pce stuff (Power League Gold Hucard,Bomberman Users Battle,etc..) back in the 90s! Yeah, 10 years ago. I dumped those babies pratically nobody had heard of back at the time,and if you have those roms floating over the web, that's because of me (even if i'm pretty sure another guy could have done the same later). I'm not a selfish scrooge,then.
IF they're online it's because of you they exist- yet you're sure another guy could have done the same? You seem so certain and yet so uncertain in the same breath. Anyway- let's see the proof of your own words now- since you've dumped the roms has the value of your users battle and gold power league (which in honesty aren't as important as something like PC Cocoron) decreased? I'm being serious here- I'd like to know.
But calling people names,because you don't share for FREE something you just made a loan to obtain it: that is beyond shame. That's a spoiled kid attitude.
Hmmm- so it's not a spoiled kid thing to snap up as trophies one of a kind playable items that would be cherished by a community- but it's a spoiled kid thing for someone to suggest they be shared. Gotcha. I don't know what's more ludicrous- this logic or your constant comparisons of prototypes to cars and houses.
Saying that if you were in his position you'd share it for free is even MORE lameful: it is so easy to be the most generous guy in the world, when in fact you do NOTHING. Because that's what it is: they DO NOT DO ANYTHING. There,i can do the same: If i had Bill Gates money, i'd give 3 billions for helping wealth&fare in the world. Happy? Now i'm the most generous man in the world,and you're all of you selfish crooks to not do the same. Simple,isn't it? And stupid either.
Yeah- we'd all be selfish crooks- because we'd ALL have Bill Gates money, right?
Fine,start to save,make those other 3-4 guys do apologies,and maybe Thibaut (or any other owner of such stuff,not him specifically) will consider selling it for the price he paid.
Or not him specifically? Doesn't sound like you have much faith that your boy would do the right thing. But why Thibaut anyway? Let's start with you. How about we all chip in and pay you what you paid so that you can release the PC Cocoron rom- if an apology from us is truly what it'll take then I'll be the first to send you a bouquet of red roses.
You do realize that Necromancer,Nat or Sinistron's attitude is PRECISELY what will prevent any owner of such stuff to share it, right?
Riiiiiight... after all these years all these protos were never released because of this current thread. It's all our fault. No one's ever before pleaded nicely that these protos be released (a laugh- as I've read years-old pleas on this very forum).
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 03:47:15 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 03:57:30 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 04:00:36 AM
So Thibaut made a PC-Engine bible- one that you said Japanese people are even buying- so it's something he's selling and making money from- it's not something he's SHARING. It's something he's selling. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that- it's his knowledge- good for him to use it for his ends to turn a buck if people want to pay for it- but don't confuse it as some kind of altruistic contribution.
"Put your money where your mouth is then. Suggest a price the community as a whole pay for you to release the PC Cocoron rom"
What the hell am I talking about? Do you not possess PC Cocoron? It says so on PCEDaisakusen- unless you just listed it for shits and giggles.
You talk about uploading roms of special versions 10 years ago- you say other people may have done the same- yeah- it's a nice thing. It was also ten years ago, you're not sure if you were the only one to do so, you CERTAINLY weren't the only one to have these games, and you haven't stated if you uploading the roms decreased the originals value- which is the big point in your argument of not wanting to share the unreleased ones (but then change your story later on and say it's because of people like me). Then you say you sold a Sega game- which is cool- but not giving something away for free as you claim. You are COMPLETELY OVEREXAGGERATING the good you AND Thibaut have done for this community.
I'm not saying you or Thibaut OWE us anything. No one OWES anyone anything. It's a matter of those with the power, and the cash, to share these unique titles- and contrary to what your first argument was- it's NOT something that you'd have to lose money on- If they don't share the titles it's their right- and it's equally my right and others to find it selfish.
My point about we'd all be crooks if we all had Bill Gates money means that the only way your ludicrous example works is if we'd all be rich like Bill Gates- not just you. It clearly went over your head.
As for me being new on the scene- who's the one with the assumptions now? As for WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE- I do what I can- considering that I have a life outside of videogames, common man's pay-and zero knowledge of technical aspects. You're not even around here to know in what way Nat Necromancer or me contribute in whatever way we can- and it probably wouldn't be any contribution that would shake your earth since you practically have every freaking item related to PCE already anyway- you also- which I respect- if your PCEDaisakusen listings are accurate- play and clear a good portion of your games- so reviews, walkthroughs and gameplay conversations wouldn't do much for you either- but that's YOU. Members here feel that we have things to contribute. We also share what we can- and I'm talking physical properties- with people that we know will appreciate it. It'd be pointless to list all the things we've given as gifts, gave good deals on or shared.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 04:15:44 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 04:20:18 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 04:23:27 AM
I'm editing my posts to add to them- f*ck is so lame about that?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 04:28:32 AM
LOL. If he contributed for FREE something that other's are making money for themselves on- then I take back everything I said about him- he's not a hoarder- he's just a f*cking idiot. As are you. Games = houses. You have Bill Gates $- do good deeds and everyone else is selfish.
You don't own PC Cocoron. Yeah- I'm the idiot for thinking so- It's ONLY LISTED ON YOUR f*ckING COLLECTION ON PCEDAI. Wow- am I the idiot or what?
I don't explain about why I don't take out a $1,600.00 loan? Hmmm- maybe because I have other obligations keeping me from paying it back? I can contribute to paying money collectively- but I can't pay for it myself. Funny you say you're waiting for me to answer your questions- which are all dumb as can be. You haven't answered yet if your uploading your special versions decreased the value of any of them- which in essence was your initial argument.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 04:29:56 AM
I read the recent gold NWC cart that went for $17,000 already dumped? If true that defeats the point of "if it's shared the original is worthless."
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: jperryss on July 09, 2009, 04:32:20 AM
I read the recent gold NWC cart that went for $17,000 already dumped? If true that defeats the point of "if it's shared the original is worthless."
That's a damn good point. The ROM is easily found, and repro versions can be bought new in a nice box w/poster, manual, etc. for $60. Yet the gold cart still goes for upwards of $15K and the gray cart I think around $4K.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 04:34:08 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 04:37:15 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 04:41:44 AM
PC Cocoron IS listed on PCE Daisakusen... Sharing $1,000 items is the only "REAL" contribution one can make to the community?? Frankly that sounds like a high and mighty attitude.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 04:41:56 AM
I read the recent gold NWC cart that went for $17,000 already dumped? If true that defeats the point of "if it's shared the original is worthless."
That's a damn good point. The ROM is easily found, and repro versions can be bought new in a nice box w/poster, manual, etc. for $60. Yet the gold cart still goes for upwards of $15K and the gray cart I think around $4K.
Yeah- and he knows it. That's why he's been avoiding my question about how much has the value of his special carts decreased. This clown's been whistling out of his butt the whole time- so he tried to change up his reason- took the easy way out and blamed people like me Nat and Necro. Adol- I've got no reason to even argue with you anymore or plead for your protos to be shared- in all honesty I thought you had PC Cocoron as it was listed on your PCDai- that's what I really wish the community could have- over a Sapphire demo anyday (others may not think so but I'm speaking from my perspective). You don't have it- your importance in my eyes just dropped to insignificance. You're just some helmet who equates houses with games. Go you.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 04:47:42 AM
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Tatsujin on July 09, 2009, 04:51:07 AM
lol..he mighty sini has no japanese font pack installed.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 04:56:14 AM
Lulzy- of course Adol erased the entry- a tad too late I'm afraid :lol: whatta maroon!
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:00:33 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:01:47 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:03:35 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 05:08:16 AM
WOW LOL what a f*cking liar. Adol- you fool- plenty have seen you as owning it on that page before- trust me. We've talked about it in shout many times. It was always listed as three owners- you just deleted it from your page just now. I wouldn't know how to manip an image that quickly- and I don't think anyone here believes that I can or would. You look really bad now- caught in a lie. I guess we'll also ask elnino for the log on pcedai to make you look like an even bigger fool.
You know what too? This calls all your shit into question as far as I'm concerned. Your clear #'s- the number of games you have- all exaggerated bullshit. Probably not even your games- probably take pics of a friend's collection and pass it off as your own. Look at me - look at me - I have PC Cocoron, I have this- I beat that - You didn't do shit. Just some joker who now has been caught in a lie. Good show. Lulzy.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:13:18 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: jperryss on July 09, 2009, 05:16:38 AM
Yes,you are. You even created a page to try to cover your lies. How lameful that is. You're going beyond ridiculous. Just check PC Cocoron webpage: http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/28/592/1/PC-Cocoron-jp.htm
I found that page YESTERDAY from a Google search, and there were definitely three owners (YOU being the third).
And right now you can do a Google Search for 'pc cocoron adol' without quotes (http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS314&=&q=pc+cocoron+adol&btnG=Google+Search), and the VERY FIRST HIT (cached) says:
PCE Daisakusen!! PCE 大作戦!! - PC Cocoron - [ Translate this page ] The PC-Engine Database - Manage your own collection! - PC Cocoron / ＰＣココロン - ... 3 users have this game in their collection: Adol, murakun, yuki ... www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/28/592/1/PC-Cocoron-jp.htm (http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/28/592/1/PC-Cocoron-jp.htm) - Similar -
So yeah, nice try.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:19:57 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 05:21:54 AM
There have been others that have seen your (previously 100% listing ..now 1 shorter).
- I shared extremely rare stuff back in the 90s for free,where were you back then?
On the flip side doing something 10+ years ago is just that old news. You have "come back" 6 months ago and have 20 posts (mainly because of this thread). Boasting what wasdone 10-20 years ago is fine, but what have you done LATELY?
If the pics of your collection that have been seen are all yours, the rich comments seem fairly accurate. This has been talked about before many times, and prob NONE of us on here even know to many people with the kind of $ (even if spread out since the system launched to have all that..much less all the complete/near complete OTHER systems you show). Your collection puts many stores (in japan and elsewhere) to shame..meaning BIG BIG $.
If you are not the same adol...why did you wait after it was claimed SO many times to refute it?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:22:10 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 05:22:50 AM
LMAO. This dude's not even real. He's a ringer. A three dollar bill. A total joke. Way to ruin your reputation in one little thread. Everything you claim is now called into question- including you dumping roms 10 years ago (of course you were SURE that others did the same after you- who can dig that far and challenge the claim that you did it first or even did it?). Your clears- your games- all highly questionable. A f*cking joke. Sic' em tiger.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 05:25:27 AM
WOW MAN REALLY LMAO- so now you're not the ADOL on PCEDAISAKUSEN. SOME OTHER ADOL MUST HAVE ERASED PC COCORON FROM HIS COLLECTION THE SECOND AFTER I WAS ABLE TO SAVE A PICTURE OF IT.
This is like total dejavu everytime someone gets caught out there this bad- because I'm always like wow this is the worst ever- but there's always some jackass to come along to renew the experience. Thanks man- honestly- you're GREAT for laughs. This thread = instant epic.
And- yeah- we know now that you don't own PC Cocoron- lol- there's no confusion there- don't worry.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:27:19 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:29:19 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 05:30:18 AM
And you,what did you do? Will you avoid to answer like Sinistron? and name/insult people instead?
Assume much? Saying I will call names/insult when I have done neither is an assumption on your part. I am not one making boastful claims...so I don't have to "show" contributions...but helping others in many ways is IMO another facate of "contributing" if you can't see that as "contributing" to the community thats your loss.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 05:30:43 AM
"Hell,actually,the one registered on PCE daisakusen is my twin,I just talked to him after this stupid assumption,and he probably deleted it,since he is the guy who ticked all the games on the list."
Your twin??? I thought I manipulated the pic? Now it is your twin- and he deleted it from his collection because you just talked to him in the middle of writing all your lies? And he deleted it from his collection why?
LMAO. Are you like 12 or something? I see some little 12 year old sitting there now- some little douchebag.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:32:19 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 05:34:20 AM
SO you have a twin..and you BOTH use Adol..and Cocroon gets erased from the listing in the middle of this thread??
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 05:35:07 AM
You are A GIFT. A gift of laughter. I love you. :clap:
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:35:30 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 05:37:38 AM
No - ok. For laughter's sake let's assume that's not you. SO WHICH ONE are you there? lol.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:38:09 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:39:39 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:41:01 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 05:43:17 AM
SO you have a twin..and you BOTH use Adol..and Cocroon gets erased from the listing in the middle of this thread??
Yes,i have a twin. And yes,he probably erased it,since i noticed him to read this funny thread. Boy,we have a good laugh with Sinistron :lol: Now, is Sinistron going to be more ridiculous and would ask me a proof for it? :lol: So he can be even more laugh at? Because i have a good one :lol:
SO safe to say your twins a liar then listing it to begin with...SHENANIGANS.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 05:43:33 AM
By the way, sinistron, why do you try avoiding to anwer my questions? Are you afraid of something? You're not a coward,aren't you? If i ask them to you in another language,would that help?
Yes- I am deathly afraid of your submoronic questions. Please post them in Svaleiocebic. It is the language of my evil twin- he shall read them for me and provide answer.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:46:09 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:47:39 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 05:49:51 AM
Yes,i have a twin. And yes,he probably erased it,since i noticed him to read this funny thread.
So if it's erased (assuming because neither of you have it)..listing it to begin with is a lie...
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 05:51:12 AM
Again- so YOUR account on PCDai is which?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:52:03 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:52:25 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 05:54:05 AM
A mistake listing a RARE prototype? As for the rich comment...it is odd having one of the biggest (and mostly complete) game collections across multiple consoles..a feat no average person $ wise could even attempt.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: sunteam_paul on July 09, 2009, 05:55:24 AM
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 05:55:29 AM
No- your questions are the questions of a jackass- and most have already been answered.
I toppled your tower of cards today- you are the greatest laugh of all time on this forum- that is enough for now- and as far as you're concerned it's a wrap. Stick a fork in Adol- he's done.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:56:22 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:57:42 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 05:58:28 AM
As for the rich comment...it is odd having one of the biggest (and mostly complete) game collections across multiple consoles..a feat no average person $ wise could even attempt.
Why do you mean,it's odd?
Meaning NO average person could afford that massive and complete collection across so many consoles without a SHIT TON of $.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:59:57 AM
Bored of Sinistron's stupidity.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: sunteam_paul on July 09, 2009, 06:00:26 AM
Ok,you're not even able to answer questions. You're really going more ridiculous, i'm forwarding this thread to many friends here,and we can't stop laughing at you ^^
I bet. I really made some fool out of myself today.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 06:02:39 AM
Meaning NO average person could afford that massive and complete collection across so many consoles without a SHIT TON of $.
Well,if you were going to buy it in a second,yes. If you're collecting for 20 years,no. It's about dedication and love for those systems. I started at 9.I didn't had tons of $$ at 9, not at 14, not at 17 I still don't now. It's all about opportunities :)
Thats my point even over 20 years (as stated before)...very few average people would have the means for that kind of collection. Time, $, etc.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 06:02:58 AM
I'm NOT the owner. Only 2 people are. Check my collection page either: http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/34/217/show-collection-p-0-0-100-name-asc-0.htm
But I thought you said you're NOT Adol on there?
My twin is reponsible for the listing there.I can't edit it,i don't have his password. We share the collection.We share things,as normal brothers would do.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 06:14:14 AM
Thats my point even over 20 years (as stated before)...very few average people would have the means for that kind of collection. Time, $, etc.
Yes..but it can happen. If i managed (with my twin) to do it,why not others? I'm not rich, i never was,and i'm still not now. It's all about patience and devotion to a goal. ^^
BTW, I modified all my posts, due to my boredom seeing Sinistron's answers. That is way off topic,and not interesting for anyone. I'll be pleased from now on to answer to any question with a "normal" member,who will be able to answer mine as well. I'm not here for fighting with a 5y mind olded brat who cannot answer simple questions and explain his false assumptions.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Necromancer on July 09, 2009, 06:14:31 AM
And if you want I give to you some prototypes, could you just say please ?
I can: please upload copies of any prototype roms or isos in your possession. Failing that, screen shots, in-game footage, and reviews would be nearly as welcome. If such material is already available, please point us to the correct site.
P.S. - It's good to see that not all Frenchmen are raving, hypocritical tricksters.
@ Adol2009 - Your illogicality and incongruities are too much for me. As such, I won't be tilting at any of your windmills.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 06:16:05 AM
EXACTLY..if your not adol..why are you showing adol's page to PROVE you don't own it??
I'm Adol. My twin is Adol on other forums as well.. And other people are Adol on Falcom's forums or music/movies/whatever forums as well. We're not all Adol nicknamed ppl in the world. since the collection is shared by both of us,what is the problem? don't you share stuff with brothers (or sisters)? Especially twins. ^^
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 06:17:02 AM
Necromancer:I'd say the same: please upload copies of any prototype roms or isos in your possession. Failing that, screen shots, in-game footage, and reviews would be nearly as welcome. If such material is already available, please point us to the correct site.
About the windmills,it's just the truth is too hard for you to hear. :D I get it,i saw that with sinistron already. shouting,naming,lying,i got it. The point is: the way you're acting,you or sinistron, by naming people, or making false assumptions, you won't get anything good from. Nobody is. That's the whole point.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 06:20:25 AM
EXACTLY..if your not adol..why are you showing adol's page to PROVE you don't own it??
I'm Adol. My twin is Adol on other forums as well.. And other people are Adol on Falcom's forums or music/movies/whatever forums as well. We're not all Adol nicknamed ppl in the world. since the collection is shared by both of us,what is the problem? don't you share stuff with brothers (or sisters)? Especially twins. ^^
Claiming you aren't adol on the PCE Daisakusen..and latter it's your twins (which wasn't mentioned for awhile...def not at the point you denied it being your listing)...now you "share" it....thats at least 3 different versions of the story.
1. It's not yours at all 2. It's your twins (twin wasn't mentioned for awhile) 3. You share it 4. The fact it was listed (and on there for quiet some time) with you having NO knowledge of it.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 06:26:29 AM
EXACTLY..if your not adol..why are you showing adol's page to PROVE you don't own it??
I'm Adol. My twin is Adol on other forums as well.. And other people are Adol on Falcom's forums or music/movies/whatever forums as well. We're not all Adol nicknamed ppl in the world. since the collection is shared by both of us,what is the problem? don't you share stuff with brothers (or sisters)? Especially twins. ^^
Claiming you aren't adol on the PCE Daisakusen..and latter it's your twins (which wasn't mentioned for awhile...def not at the point you denied it being your listing)...now you "share" it....thats at least 3 different versions of the story.
No, that's only one. I'm not adol on PCE daisakusen. My twin is. he owns the account,password,etc. I don't see why i'd mention my twin earlier,since i had no idea what the hell Sinistmoron was talking about (PC Cocoron stuff). I realized then Sinistmoron's lie, about me owning PC Cocoron. Looked like he knew better than me what i own ( What i share with him is the PHYSICAL COLLECTION, the OBJECTS, the GAMES. Not ONE damn listing on ONE website made by ticking 800 games at a time. Is it clear?
Edit:ahh,you modified your post..then i'll answer that part: 1. It's not yours at all 2. It's your twins (twin wasn't mentioned for awhile) 3. You share it 4. The fact it was listed (and on there for quiet some time) with you having NO knowledge of it.
Answer 3 is correct.We share the collection. Sicne we started it together 20 years ago.Which is not the case for all fullsets i have.some of them,like DC,was done by me only. Answer 4 is correct as well.I know he ticked the collection games on that website,but didn't check every fraction of it. What is the point?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: sunteam_paul on July 09, 2009, 06:28:29 AM
BTW, I modified all my posts, due to my boredom seeing Sinistron's answers. That is way off topic,and not interesting for anyone.
Look, I'm not usually one to jump in and start beating-up on forum members, but it's pretty clear that you modified your posts to cover up your epic fail and spaghetti of what appeared to be half-truths. Not to mention plenty of name-calling by yourself when you complain people are doing the same. Sure, this forum can be quite hard on people (sometimes a little unfairly) at times, but you're really not doing yourself any favours. Perhaps it's just the language barrier *shrug*
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 06:31:52 AM
Not to mention plenty of name-calling by yourself when you complain people are doing the same. Sure, this forum can be quite hard on people (sometimes a little unfairly) at times, but you're really not doing yourself any favours. Perhaps it's just the language barrier *shrug*
It's pretty clear that forum is a kid's playground as well. I came here because i was shocked to see how Thibaut was treated,and i gave solid points. about fact sharing or not, and what happned last years about this. Why japanese owners don't share, how other communities operate for grabbing such stuff,etc. Solid points that Sinistron was unable to answer besides "douchebag" and such comments.Maybe the truth wasn't easy to hear after all. About calling names, i started after SEVERAL (a dozen?) posts of Sinistron doing such against Thibaut, and me. I got sick of such arrogant and childish attitude. Then i answered. My bad i didn't know that forum was a playground. Any honest member would see that chronologically he started insulting Thibaut (or me) way before i answered. Didn't you?
The only thing that comes out of this is that it doesn't help getting rare stuff shared. I know i shared a lot of stuff(PCE,Nintendo,Mega CD) in the past, but seeing such attitiude,it doesn't help doing the same thing ever again.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: esteban on July 09, 2009, 06:51:40 AM
Life 101
For the folks who find it necessary to be rude, aggressive and attack fellow board members, here's a thought...
A little bit of peace, love and harmony goes a long way.
If you actually cared about learning more (and possibly even playing) the "unobtainable", you might consider a more civilized approach.
1) If there was ever a chance that we could build healthy relationships that we could all benefit from, you've poisoned them with your personal attacks, juvenile drama, and good-old-fashioned spite. Bravo. You have contributed greatly to the PCE/TG-16 Community.
2) I would refrain from characterizing "Frenchmen" in any manner, since we've shown, here in this thread, just how imbecilic "Americans" can be. Bravo. (Canadians? Who cares about them!)
3) As for Yuki, the person who owns PC Cocoron... he's been gracious enough to share the ISO with me*. See? A little bit of peace and love goes a long way.
* No, of course he hasn't. Perhaps he never will. You know what? Use your time an energy to be constructive and productive. Namaste.
------------- Q & A (Bonus!) -------------
Q: Esteban, what entitles you to interrupt this thread with a "holier-than-thou" lecture on how we should communicate with each other? A: F*ck you.
:)
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 06:55:46 AM
Esteban- I like you man- honestly I do- you're cool as hell- but save your peace and love crap. You're not Jesus and this isn't Camp Christ.
Besides- my rudeness- as you put it- helped us eliminate one possible holding of PC Cocoron. We're closer to realizing who ACTUALLY owns the damn thing.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: sunteam_paul on July 09, 2009, 06:57:39 AM
The whole problem with these rares is the vicious circle of buyers and sellers. If people wouldn't pay such ridiculous prices for them then it really wouldn't be that much of an issue. But there's really no cure except for one person to break that cycle.
I remember when a copy of Space Fantasy Zone got leaked just after myself and a fairly modest group of others managed to get hold of it through someone - at the time it was disappointing that the trust had been broken, but in hindsight it was probably the best thing that could have happened. (At least everyone can see how unexceptional it is now!).
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: esteban on July 09, 2009, 07:03:06 AM
Esteban- I like you man- honestly I do- you're cool as hell- but save your peace and love crap. You're not Jesus and this isn't Camp Christ.
Besides- my rudeness- as you put it- helped us eliminate one possible holding of PC Cocoron. We're closer to realizing who ACTUALLY owns the damn thing.
I thought I was blunt enough, but you miss the main point of my post: In this situation, you (and others) are being COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE. Don't be silly. Identifying the "true owner" is meaningless when you have gone out of your way to destroy relationships--the very relationships necessary for obtaining the unobtainable.
Sinistron, you know I totally respect you, and, believe me, we have the same goals. :) We just have very different ideas about how to actually reach those goals.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 07:03:48 AM
For the folks who find it necessary to be rude, aggressive and attack fellow board members, here's a thought...
A little bit of peace, love and harmony goes a long way.
If you actually cared about learning more (and possibly even playing) the "unobtainable", you might consider a more civilized approach.
1) If there was ever a chance that we could build healthy relationships that we could all benefit from, you've poisoned them with your personal attacks, juvenile drama, and good-old-fashioned spite. Bravo. You have contributed greatly to the PCE/TG-16 Community.
2) I would refrain from characterizing "Frenchmen" in any manner, since we've shown, here in this thread, just how imbecilic "Americans" can be. Bravo. (Canadians? Who cares about them!)
3) As for Yuki, the person who owns PC Cocoron... he's been gracious enough to share the ISO with me*. See? A little bit of peace and love goes a long way.
* No, of course he hasn't. Perhaps he never will. You know what? Use your time an energy to be constructive and productive. Namaste.
------------- Q & A (Bonus!) -------------
Q: Esteban, what entitles you to interrupt this thread with a "holier-than-thou" lecture on how we should communicate with each other? A: F*ck you.
:)
Congrats for this post. I just hope such strength in hatred here would have been used to convince those 2 owners. But with Sinistron's rude approach, you can be pretty sure nobody would give a damn f*ck about it. Keep up the good work.
About PC Cocoron, i missed an opportunity for 15mn 1 year ago.Too bad that was a BIN. The usual japanese user won it.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Necromancer on July 09, 2009, 07:06:32 AM
It's lunch time, so I guess that I do have time to don my Don Quixote hat. :)
Necromancer:I'd say the same: please upload copies of any prototype roms or isos in your possession. Failing that, screen shots, in-game footage, and reviews would be nearly as welcome. If such material is already available, please point us to the correct site.
He made an offer and I responded; I did not make such an offer, as I have no such materials available to me. It's called logic. Ask someone to explain the concept to you.
About the windmills,it's just the truth is too hard for you to hear. :D I get it,i saw that with sinistron already. shouting,naming,lying,i got it. The point is: the way you're acting,you or sinistron, by naming people, or making false assumptions, you won't get anything good from. Nobody is. That's the whole point.
And what good were you hoping to achieve with your lies and falsehoods? Though you've deleted your previous posts, enough of their original content was quoted to prove that you're a charlatan.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: sunteam_paul on July 09, 2009, 07:10:58 AM
If we ever find a real person with PC Cocoron, we should gather all our money up together and get them really, really drunk...
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 07:16:17 AM
Esteban- I like you man- honestly I do- you're cool as hell- but save your peace and love crap. You're not Jesus and this isn't Camp Christ.
Besides- my rudeness- as you put it- helped us eliminate one possible holding of PC Cocoron. We're closer to realizing who ACTUALLY owns the damn thing.
I thought I was blunt enough, but you miss the main point of my post: In this situation, you (and others) are being COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE. Don't be silly. Identifying the "true owner" is meaningless when you have gone out of your way to destroy relationships--the very relationships necessary for obtaining the unobtainable.
Sinistron, you know I totally respect you, and, believe me, we have the same goals. We just have very different ideas about how to actually reach those goals.
Really Esteban- how long have you and others been pleading for this title- with no avail? I've searched the forum- I've seen the pleading. Really- the best suggestion is from Black Tiger- that we all chip in for these titles from the owners- but if you think me being rude in a single forum thread is really stopping these transactions from going down- then you're buying into this clown's game. His reasoning was about money- when I asked him repeatedly if his uploading the roms made his physical wares deprecciate in value he didn't answer- just changed his story and blamed me. Him and his evil twin are blaming me for the way of the world. It's a joke.
As for Thibaut- this is a guy with a serious wanted list totalling over 100,000$. Money isn't an object- trophies are his object. He had ZERO interest in joining the community- just came here looking for ultra rare wares- money not an issue. You can kiss up to these a$$holes if you want- but count me out. I'm not playing the desperate fool while they hang protos over our heads- and some of these guys are just plain full of it as we see today. It's a prestige issue. Adol wanted to be a legend- and now he is- a legendary riot. Who can take anything this guy says seriously anymore?
Hey- I wish every great turn came by way of peace and love- but it's RARELY the case- not in this world. Sure- I'm peaceful at home- I love my friends and they love me back- but at the end of the day giant steps are taken through truth and force.
To that end- hey- I hope you're successful in your aims to hunt down these protos by cooing in these clowns' ears- I really do. Shit- if you're successful then maybe you'd even forgive my filthy ways and let me share in the fun of these rare gems :)
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 07:17:33 AM
Not to mention plenty of name-calling by yourself when you complain people are doing the same. Sure, this forum can be quite hard on people (sometimes a little unfairly) at times, but you're really not doing yourself any favours. Perhaps it's just the language barrier *shrug*
It's pretty clear that forum is a kid's playground as well. I came here because i was shocked to see how Thibaut was treated,and i gave solid points. about fact sharing or not, and what happned last years about this. Why japanese owners don't share, how other communities operate for grabbing such stuff,etc. Solid points that Sinistron was unable to answer besides "douchebag" and such comments.Maybe the truth wasn't easy to hear after all. About calling names, i started after SEVERAL (a dozen?) posts of Sinistron doing such against Thibaut, and me. I got sick of such arrogant and childish attitude. Then i answered. My bad i didn't know that forum was a playground. Any honest member would see that chronologically he started insulting Thibaut (or me) way before i answered. Didn't you?
The only thing that comes out of this is that it doesn't help getting rare stuff shared. I know i shared a lot of stuff(PCE,Nintendo,Mega CD) in the past, but seeing such attitiude,it doesn't help doing the same thing ever again.
So we're back to the playground "he started it" game? Regardless even if someone else starts it, YOU continued it which making any complaining you do about name calling pointless as you did it also.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Thibaut on July 09, 2009, 07:19:51 AM
I come back from work and so much pages !
Sinistron : "So Thibaut made a PC-Engine bible- one that you said Japanese people are even buying- so it's something he's selling and making money from- it's not something he's SHARING. It's something he's selling. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that- it's his knowledge- good for him to use it for his ends to turn a buck if people want to pay for it- but don't confuse it as some kind of altruistic contribution."
Impressive ! Do you ever write a book and publish it ? Do you know how much cost a book with 200 pages in color with high quality paper ?
"About PC Cocoron, i missed an opportunity for 15mn 1 year ago.Too bad that was a BIN. The usual japanese user won it."
Exactly, a complete copy of PC Cocoron with manual and cover in color.
The same seller sell also a copy of Imperial Force with development paper and an art-book development of Silky Lip (about 100 pages).
To conclude, with so much aggressiveness for your part you don´t participate to collect some unreleased games from collector (I can´t imagine if you speak like that (like you do with me) to Japanese high collector...).
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 07:27:38 AM
Sinistron : "So Thibaut made a PC-Engine bible- one that you said Japanese people are even buying- so it's something he's selling and making money from- it's not something he's SHARING. It's something he's selling. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that- it's his knowledge- good for him to use it for his ends to turn a buck if people want to pay for it- but don't confuse it as some kind of altruistic contribution."
Impressive ! Do you ever write a book and publish it ? Do you know how much cost a book with 200 pages in color with high quality paper ?
So much
"About PC Cocoron, i missed an opportunity for 15mn 1 year ago.Too bad that was a BIN. The usual japanese user won it."
Exactly, a complete copy of PC Cocoron with manual and cover in color.
The same seller sell also a copy of Imperial Force with development paper and an art-book development of Silky Lip (about 100 pages).
To conclude, with so much aggressiveness for your part you don´t participate to collect some unreleased games from collector (I can´t imagine if you speak like that (like you do with me) to Japanese high collector...).
Actually ThighButt my writing HAS been published- and as for production I've recorded at least 7 full-length albums and had over a thousand pressed and distributed them myself.
"To conclude, with so much aggressiveness for your part you don´t participate to collect some unreleased games from collector (I can´t imagine if you speak like that (like you do with me) to Japanese high collector...)."
Shit man- I know that English isn't your primary language- but do you really expect me to decipher this?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 07:28:29 AM
And what good were you hoping to achieve with your lies and falsehoods?
I never made any lies not falsehoods. That is just plain bullshit from you. Classic.
Nectarsis: i admit i CONTINUED it. CONTINUED. that means the ones to blame are the ones starting it. That's how it works, even in law domain. then blame them,not me. I pointed about naming issues, i pointed twice, i pointed 3,4 times,etc...at the end i'm bored of it, and i just name myself.That's the only language they understand.
Esteban, don't answer to that sinistron clown. He's not worth it. That's probably why he won't get anything anytime soon. Sinistmoron: Any attempt to tarnish me won't work. I'm way beyond that, sorry for this, clown. Try with somebody else.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 07:30:12 AM
Shit man- I know that English isn't your primary language- but do you really expect me to decipher this?
When you'll be able to write french as well as i write english,maybe you'll be in position to talk about this. Until then,you're just a clown. We're laughing again and again here in France about your smart comments. Go get PC Cocoron, Forrest.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 07:32:49 AM
Continuing takes you to their "level" you seem to look down on them at. You doing what you complain about them starting is 5 year old grade school "he started it" ..."it's bad for them to do it, but they did it first so that makes it ok for me to" ...quiet hypocritical.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 07:37:57 AM
Sinistron : Yes my english is not good, do you prefer we discuss in french ?
With so much insults from your part to me, I don´t understand why a moderator on this forum don´t intervene.
Actually I've been treating you with kid gloves- Adol's been getting the full onslaught. At most I called you a hoarder- if you can't take it- then go look at your game shelves- that'll make you feel much better.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Thibaut on July 09, 2009, 07:54:43 AM
And for example "Shit man" ?
With your attitude you´re really tarnish all the Aaron forum...
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 07:56:47 AM
With your attitude you´re really tarnish all the Aaron forum...
Yeah- that's what they keep telling me...
Oh well... I'm here for as long as they'll have me! :wink:
but seriously- I'm a little offended here- with this gunpowder dipped tongue of mine the best you can come up with is "Shit, man"?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Thibaut on July 09, 2009, 07:59:20 AM
Aaron is so lucky to have a nice person like you, so refined.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: cosmos99 on July 09, 2009, 07:59:54 AM
Don't be so rude with Thibaut , i know him well , i'm sure that if he would buy those things like we buy an ice cream it would be less of a problem to share them , i'm afraid it is not the case. :wink:
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 08:01:51 AM
Aaron is so lucky to have a nice person like you, so refined.
Aaron doesnt HAVE me- I'm not a moderator and Aaron isn't in the habit of collecting people- just video games and camera stuff. If you've got a grievance with my actions- feel free to quote all that I've said about you and complain to him or to a moderator.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: cosmos99 on July 09, 2009, 08:17:09 AM
Continuing takes you to their "level" you seem to look down on them at. You doing what you complain about them starting is 5 year old grade school "he started it" ..."it's bad for them to do it, but they did it first so that makes it ok for me to" ...quiet hypocritical.
I don't deny it. but again: in law domain, the one starting is the punished one.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 08:21:06 AM
Just a friend of him. And i could'nt figure to ask him for a free copy even if we are friends , but i understand your point of view in some ways.
ESTEBAN- You SEE? This guy's FRIENDS with him- and he knows better than to ask him for a copy.
It's a joke. Did you see that flash of shine and catch a whiff of that bad breath? It's the French- standing next to you holding those L33T wares over your head- smiling like filthy devils.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 08:22:15 AM
Continuing takes you to their "level" you seem to look down on them at. You doing what you complain about them starting is 5 year old grade school "he started it" ..."it's bad for them to do it, but they did it first so that makes it ok for me to" ...quiet hypocritical.
I don't deny it. but again: in law domain, the one starting is the punished one.
This is a public forum..not law domain/court/etc. You can twist it any way you want, but it's hypocritical, and shifting blame (or attempting to) doesn't change that. Besides many places BOTH people can get into trouble...disorderly conduct, etc....in "law domain."
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 08:24:12 AM
Continuing takes you to their "level" you seem to look down on them at. You doing what you complain about them starting is 5 year old grade school "he started it" ..."it's bad for them to do it, but they did it first so that makes it ok for me to" ...quiet hypocritical.
I don't deny it. but again: in law domain, the one starting is the punished one.
This is a public forum..not law domain/court/etc. You can twist it any way you want, but it's hypocritical, and shifting blame (or attempting to) doesn't change that. Besides many places BOTH people can get into trouble...disorderly conduct, etc....in "law domain."
It's also bullsnap Adol. You started with the insults RIGHT AWAY when responding to Nat- though who knows if it's even there as you ran off and altered/deleted all of your posts like a little wench who just got kicked in the taco.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Necromancer on July 09, 2009, 08:26:27 AM
Besides many places BOTH people can get into trouble...disorderly conduct, etc....in "law domain."
Indeed. In fact, the only cases where normally illegal activity is excused in U.S. law is when it prevents a greater crime from being committed or in matters of self defense. I seriously doubt that French courts are all that different.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 08:33:16 AM
Continuing takes you to their "level" you seem to look down on them at. You doing what you complain about them starting is 5 year old grade school "he started it" ..."it's bad for them to do it, but they did it first so that makes it ok for me to" ...quiet hypocritical.
I don't deny it. but again: in law domain, the one starting is the punished one.
This is a public forum..not law domain/court/etc. You can twist it any way you want, but it's hypocritical, and shifting blame (or attempting to) doesn't change that. Besides many places BOTH people can get into trouble...disorderly conduct, etc....in "law domain."
It's also bullsnap Adol. You started with the insults RIGHT AWAY when responding to Nat- though who knows if it's even there as you ran off and altered/deleted all of your posts like a little wench who just got kicked in the taco.
No,i answered to nat insults towards Thibaut. Again, his insults come first. Be honest for one time. But i congrat you for being able to write one sentence without insulting someone,or mocking at other people's sentences in non native language. I'd be delighted to see your french sentences in action. Even deleting my posts won't change the TIME LINE. You'll see nat post way before my very first post in this thread.
Necromancer: I'm a lawyer. I'm not talking without knowing the subject, like you do. I can tell for a fact French courts and US courts have NOTHING in common. But you can check by yourself if you want. You're based on common law,from Magna Carta. And we're not. Procedures,laws,the entire law system..about 60% of it changes. Class action suits,procedure to establish guilt,etc.. all of this is completely different. Fortunately for us ^^
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 08:33:51 AM
Lastly- I'd like to say that you were RIGHT about one thing Adol- you have contributed greatly to this community. You've provided us with a gajillion guffaws- many a laugh. I haven't laughed this hard since seeing the end credits scene of The Hangover. Good times. Here's to you Adol- you and your Wonder Twin. By the way- all those clears listed on PCDai- WHOEVER'S page it is- exactly who cleared them? Did Wonder Twin Powers activate and clear all games?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 08:36:33 AM
-nat See, I just don't get that. That is selfishness to the ultimate degree and there is no justifiable reason for it.
So calling someone selfish (which is his OPINION) is "OMFG he just talked about my mamma" bad? Seems a lot of these peeps on here need to grow a set, and quit being "offended" so damn easily.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 08:37:34 AM
Lastly- I'd like to say that you were RIGHT about one thing Adol- you have contributed greatly to this community. Here's to you Adol- you and your Wonder Twin. By the way- all those clears listed on PCDai- WHOEVER'S page it is- exactly who cleared them?
We cleared together those games. Because we're better players than you ever will be. 8) And we donated more than you ever will,since you did nothing, until proven opposite ^^ Try again, Forrest. You're just good to mock foerign people about theit english, when you're probably not being able to speak another language than yours. Have you ever been to school? Which foreign languages do you speak? Oh wait, that's questions. You're not able to answer questions. Only vomiting insults.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 08:39:50 AM
Lastly- I'd like to say that you were RIGHT about one thing Adol- you have contributed greatly to this community. Here's to you Adol- you and your Wonder Twin. By the way- all those clears listed on PCDai- WHOEVER'S page it is- exactly who cleared them?
We cleared together those games. Because we're better players than you ever will be. 8) And we donated more than you ever will,since you did nothing, until proven opposite ^^ Try again, Forrest. You're just good to mock foerign people about theit english, when you're probably not being able to speak another language than yours. Have you ever been to school? Which foreign languages do you speak? Oh wait, that's questions. You're not able to answer questions. Only vomiting insults.
Again complaining about people "mocking language, etc" yet you can dish it out....man you are FULL of hypocrisy, and assumptions.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 08:40:03 AM
-nat See, I just don't get that. That is selfishness to the ultimate degree and there is no justifiable reason for it.
So calling someone selfish (which is his OPINION) is "OMFG he just talked about my mamma" bad? Seems a lot of these peeps on here need to grow a set, and quit being "offended" so damn easily.
Seems a lot need to not mock/insult people so easily.So nothing of that would happen. But the good point is that Sinistron is already being laughed by most french viewers of this thread ^^. Such arrogance and insulting behaviour...is it representative of this forum..? (No Sinistron,don't answer that question,sit down,we're not talking to you)
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 08:40:40 AM
-nat See, I just don't get that. That is selfishness to the ultimate degree and there is no justifiable reason for it.
So calling someone selfish (which is his OPINION) is "OMFG he just talked about my mamma" bad? Seems a lot of these peeps on here need to grow a set, and quit being "offended" so damn easily.
Seems a lot need to not mock/insult people so easily.So nothing of that would happen. But the good point is that Sinistron is already being laughed by most french viewers of this thread ^^. Such arrogance and insulting behaviour...is it representative of this forum..? (No Sinistron,don't answer that question,sit down,we're not tlaking to you)
As you are being laughed at by most english viewers.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 08:42:29 AM
Again complaining about people "mocking language, etc" yet you can dish it out....man you are FULL of hypocrisy, and assumptions.
Where have you seen i mocked anyone's french here?
Did I say that...your whining about sin making fun of it, but you dish out insults/assumptions on OTHER subjects....man is it that hard too figure out you've been doing EXACTLY what you're complaing about others doing?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 08:42:55 AM
-nat See, I just don't get that. That is selfishness to the ultimate degree and there is no justifiable reason for it.
So calling someone selfish (which is his OPINION) is "OMFG he just talked about my mamma" bad? Seems a lot of these peeps on here need to grow a set, and quit being "offended" so damn easily.
Seems a lot need to not mock/insult people so easily.So nothing of that would happen. But the good point is that Sinistron is already being laughed by most french viewers of this thread ^^. Such arrogance and insulting behaviour...is it representative of this forum..? (No Sinistron,don't answer that question,sit down,we're not tlaking to you)
As you are being laughed at by most english viewers.
Oooh, you're coming to the rescue of your little friend. Now that's nice ^^ I guess you're not able to answer questions either. HYPOCRISY at best.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 08:45:27 AM
Again complaining about people "mocking language, etc" yet you can dish it out....man you are FULL of hypocrisy, and assumptions.
Where have you seen i mocked anyone's french here?
Did I say that...your whining about sin making fun of it, but you dish out insults/assumptions on OTHER subjects....man is it that hard too figure out you've been doing EXACTLY what you're complaing about others doing?
That was the point here. Sinistron making fun about other people's language. Talk about smartness and open mind. You're pointing out i'm insulting and making assumptions, but MAN is it that hard to (without a second o) figure out that i'm just copying what they're doing FROM THE VERY START? That they started acting that way,and i sank down to their level since it is the only language they get? Is it that hard? Anyway,whjatever i'll answer or other french members,as long as the best valid points we'd get is "you're full of hypocrisis" or being mocked at our unperfect english, that'll just show how full of yourself you are. I dare you to speak another language Mocking others is the easy way,the childish way. I tried to ask questions, valid ones. To only get insults and NO answers. That's cowardness. Plainly. Saying "your questions are idiot" isn't a smart answer, it's a coward one. A non-open minded answer. You can turn it every way you want, not answering is lame. While you should be happy your forum is opening to other countries people, you're just making fun of other countries people. You're trying to obtain stuff,and you mock and insult owners. How do you ever think obtaining something that way?
I thought sinistron was the only childish guy here,i was wrong. Esteban was right from the start.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 08:46:16 AM
what questionshave you directly asked me...waiting. I haven't called you shit...now you wanna pull crap to...
"Oooh, you're coming to the rescue of your little friend"
Sin, Necro, nat are MORE than capable of taking you to school on their own (and have readily proven that). Not just a matter of friends (though that may be a hard concept for you that people on here actually GET ALONG)...but we are a COMMUNITY, we look out for one another.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 08:48:14 AM
Again complaining about people "mocking language, etc" yet you can dish it out....man you are FULL of hypocrisy, and assumptions.
Where have you seen i mocked anyone's french here?
Did I say that...your whining about sin making fun of it, but you dish out insults/assumptions on OTHER subjects....man is it that hard too figure out you've been doing EXACTLY what you're complaing about others doing?
That was the point here. Sinistron making fun about other people's language. Talk about smartness and open mind. You're pointing out i'm insulting and making assumptions, but MAN is it that hard to (without a second o) figure out that i'm just copying what they're doing FROM THE VERY START? That they started acting that way,and i sank down to their level since it is the only language they get? Is that hard?
No not hard to figure out, just hypocitical, immature..and takes you to "their level" which makes any complaining you do about they they act pointless as YOU ARE DOING IT TO. Who gives a shit "who started it" ...hell most people figured out that excuse wouldn't fly by like 5-6 years old.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 08:51:11 AM
-nat See, I just don't get that. That is selfishness to the ultimate degree and there is no justifiable reason for it.
So calling someone selfish (which is his OPINION) is "OMFG he just talked about my mamma" bad? Seems a lot of these peeps on here need to grow a set, and quit being "offended" so damn easily.
Seems a lot need to not mock/insult people so easily.So nothing of that would happen. But the good point is that Sinistron is already being laughed by most french viewers of this thread ^^. Such arrogance and insulting behaviour...is it representative of this forum..? (No Sinistron,don't answer that question,sit down,we're not talking to you)
That's great- I'd rather you French jokers laugh at me then along with me- because if you were here laughing with me I'd have to smell your putrid Camembert breath. You talk such a big game too- as if you didn't hurl PRICK at me and all this other foolishness. You can say what you want to- you can say you and your Wonder Twin beat all these games (was this before or after you were cramming your nose in Law books to finish school?), you can talk up all these imaginary asshats that are leaning over you laughing along with you as you type- but the truth is that I believe none of it. You pushed yourself through the clown car today- got caught in a big lie and contorted yourself silly trying to wriggle free from it- and here you are- looking like the world's smelliest pretzel.
I'll have none of it. You didn't beat all those games you said you did, you don't own all you claim to own, you're no f*cking lawyer (I work in a lawfirm- and you're no f*cking lawyer. LAWYERS ARE ALWAYS BUSY- no time to beat the vast majority of PCE games and no time to dick around online like this), and if you really have a Wonder Twin then he's just as spazzed out as you are. Your reputation is shit. Get back in your clown car and drive to the nearest cliff.
And show me WHERE I'm ragging on and on about others' languages? I asked ThighButt if he actually expected me to understand what he was writing- a sentence that probably no one here could decipher- what in green groves are you suggesting I said otherwise?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 08:53:24 AM
what questionshave you directly asked me...waiting. I haven't called you shit...now you wanna pull crap to...
"Oooh, you're coming to the rescue of your little friend"
Sin, Necro, nat are MORE than capable of taking you to school on their own (and have readily proven that). Not just a matter of friends (though that may be a hard concept for you that people on here actually GET ALONG)...but we are a COMMUNITY, we look out for one another.
I graduated high school at 16,i don't need to go back to school again,thanks. Thibaut (or me) are members of this forums. Cosmos is, either. And NO,you don't look out for us. Then why don't you ask the admin his opinion,since you're not open to others? It'll be my pleasure to relay worldwidely your open mind about others.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 08:55:30 AM
Who gives a shit "who started it" ...hell most people figured out that excuse wouldn't fly by like 5-6 years old.
Then why don't you blame the starters of all this shit? Because they're your buddies,and you're not objective about this.
What do you think of your Sinistron buddy racist comments such as: "I'd have to smell your putrid Camembert breath"
Nothing,of course. That's,again,hypocrisy at its best. You caution racist comments.
Sinistron: i don't care what you believe. I said the truth. If you say,for example,i have no twin, i don't xcare. The only time i went in your country, NY times related it. Yeah, a little newspaper of yours called NY Times related our trip (for a sports competition). For them, for their intel, me & my twin exist. for you,maybe not. I think NY times has more credibility than you.
Calling Thibaut Thighbutt is just making you even more stupid And saying i lied even more,since there is not a single lie today. I explained the whole story, but if you don't want to hear it,too bad for you,that's the truth and then you're just a clown.
I'm sure you're envious about my collection, the games i ended (i ended them in the 90s, when i was at high school/student, i didn't wait 10 years like you to enjoy the system, i was a fan from the base unlike you for sure), and the fact i'm a lawyer. too bad for you, i am. Get back to your sad life.
Going out to the concert, enjoy.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 08:56:19 AM
what questionshave you directly asked me...waiting. I haven't called you shit...now you wanna pull crap to...
"Oooh, you're coming to the rescue of your little friend"
Sin, Necro, nat are MORE than capable of taking you to school on their own (and have readily proven that). Not just a matter of friends (though that may be a hard concept for you that people on here actually GET ALONG)...but we are a COMMUNITY, we look out for one another.
I graduated high school at 16,i don't need to go back to school again,thanks. Thibaut (or me) are members of this forums. Cosmos is, either. And NO,you don't look out for us. Then why don't you ask the admin his opinion,since you're not open to others? It'll be my pleasure to relay worldwidely your open mind about others.
Ask around...majority of people who know me..I'm open minded, andconsiderate to others (except those that act like asshats/lie, etc). Funny I haven't said one word to Thiabut, or cosmos, so don't bring them in where there's no need to. Oh and I have talked to the administrator many time (have you?) he doesn't seem to have a problem with me. If we're all such a bunch of a$$holes here, why stay?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 09:00:52 AM
Who gives a shit "who started it" ...hell most people figured out that excuse wouldn't fly by like 5-6 years old.
Then why don't you blame the starters of all this shit? Because they're your buddies,and you're not objective about this. That's,again,hypocrisy at its best. Going out to the concert, enjoy.
Once Again..NO ONE CARES WHO STARTED IT...you're no better. I've been a LOT more objective than you have...nat states an opinion and it's an "attack" on you....if you're a lawyer, you seem easily worked up. Yes MANY people on here are my friends..doesn't change how I act. This isn't grade/high school...we're all adults, and if you make decisions/act based just on your friends, that's pathetic.
You like calling others hypocrite, yet continually ignore the fact you've been doing it all along. Man up ..admit you'vebeen wrong at times...but nope, you won't, it's "everyone else, I'm completely innocent."
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 09:03:29 AM
Once Again..NO ONE CARES WHO STARTED IT...you're no better. I've been a LOT more objective than you have...nat states an opinion and it's an "attack" on you....if you're a lawyer, you seem easily worked up. Yes MANY people on here are my friends..doesn't change how I act. This isn't grade/high school...we're all adults, and if you make decisions/act based just on your friends, that's pathetic.
You like calling others hypocrite, yet continually ignore the fact you've been doing it all along. Man up ..admit you'vebeen wrong at times...but nope, you won't, it's "everyone else, I'm completely innocent."
you really read wrong my posts. I admitted i named. i But i can't admit i lied,because i DID NOT.
Once again: I'm no better...but i'm no WORSE. And you never pointed out anything about his behaviour. Why? Becasue theyre your buddies, you caution names, and now racist comments? I won't stay for long,i went because you jumped on Thibaut like wolves on meat, and that was shocking. Now i see racist comments coming along, and you endorsing it,i think it's really time to go,yeah.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 09:06:10 AM
Well when your stories change every few minutes it's hard to fault others for jumping on you...you made that to easy. This forum has always been more than open/welcoming (I've been here a LOT longer than you so I actually have a basis for my opinion). When people throw up red flags/lie/can't keep their stories straight/change them when it suits them...people will go after you.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 09:18:05 AM
LOL- it always ends the same with you collector types. I'm envious/jealous of your collection. Get over yourself guy- you don't even have PC Cocoron like you initially pretended. I have over 260 PCE titles- and I don't plan on getting more than 330- I can't play the bulk of titles that you have that I don't because I can't read Japanese. I also cleared 90 PCE games so I'm not exactly envious of your alleged clears that you somehow "share" with your Wonder Twin.
If you're so truthful then why go back and delete the bulk of your posts? It's really hilarious how you just can't admit how many times you stuck your foot in your mouth on this thread- it really is.
And yeah you're goddamn right I said a French joke- when you talk about the French like they're some kind of group collective and say "Sinistron is already being laughed by most french viewers of this thread"- then I'll toss a joke especially their way. I'm that giving.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: sunteam_paul on July 09, 2009, 09:18:56 AM
If you did not lie then at the very least you intentionally misled, particularly when stating that the account on PCED was not yours after you had linked to it as yours. Is it any wonder people smelled a rat? And one thing about this forum - once people smell bullshit, there is nowhere to hide, and they are very good at smelling it. Perhaps if you were a little more forthcoming with the 'facts' a little earlier this would not have gone on for so long.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Guilherme on July 09, 2009, 09:50:07 AM
Did I start this debate? :-P
Well, I started a PC Engine collection a few months ago... I really like the NEC consoles and games.
I'm from Brazil, and for me, paying US$ 1.600,00 for a game is a complete utopia. I don't even earn this amount of money IN A YEAR. So, it would be very nice if Thibaut could share this Sapphire prototype with the community. Please, Thibaut. :-D
And sorry for my poor english.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Necromancer on July 09, 2009, 09:58:48 AM
No,i answered to nat insults towards Thibaut. Again, his insults come first. Be honest for one time.
Riddle me this, Batman: How did nat insult Thibaut?
In his post, nat decried the act of not sharing as selfish; he did not label Thibaut as selfish nor resort to any name calling. You cannot apply nat's words directly to Thibaut, as he had yet to receive the disc and was therefor unable to commit the act that was characterized as selfish. For a supposed lawyer, you're quite illogical and quick to dole out an unsubstantiated claim.
Furthermore, I'm beginning to suspect you don't know the definition of the word 'selfish'. It is most commonly defined as the act of placing one's own needs or desires above the needs or desires of others, which Thibaut's response clearly shows to be applicable:
I pay to much money for those collectors, I work so hard all the year to get money with some sacrifices, I can't immediately give them.
This unarguably shows that Thibaut is trying to protect his wallet (i.e. his own needs/desires) when he won't share the game (i.e. the needs/desires of others). Whether or not he is justified in this action is entirely irrelevant in the argument regarding selfishness.
Necromancer: I'm a lawyer. I'm not talking without knowing the subject, like you do.
That sounds like a snap judgment from someone who knows nothing about me. Don't you think that's a tad hypocritical considering you've complained multiple times of similar behavior?
I can tell for a fact French courts and US courts have NOTHING in common. But you can check by yourself if you want. You're based on common law,from Magna Carta. And we're not. Procedures,laws,the entire law system..about 60% of it changes. Class action suits,procedure to establish guilt,etc.. all of this is completely different. Fortunately for us ^^
Is it nothing in common, which would be 100% different, or is it 60% different? You can't have it both ways, so stow your haughty attitude and air of superiority. Moreover, I didn't state with absolute certainty that the French legal system was identical to the U.S. system, but only that I doubted that there is much difference in the assignation of blame.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 10:56:30 AM
LOL- it always ends the same with you collector types. I'm envious/jealous of your collection. Get over yourself guy- you don't even have PC Cocoron like you initially pretended. I have over 260 PCE titles- and I don't plan on getting more than 330- I can't play the bulk of titles that you have that I don't because I can't read Japanese. I also cleared 90 PCE games so I'm not exactly envious of your alleged clears that you somehow "share" with your Wonder Twin.
Do you have issues with twins? I never pretended i had this game,that's only in your mind. And i really don't care about it either,i have 25 other fullsets to care of.and unreleased games/protos on 25 other systems then i could be interested in.
If you don't read japanese,then too bad for you. Do as i did when i was 12: learn it. It'll open you doors of great RPGs and Tactics RPGs. The pure essence of PCE spirit. So you'll buy and clear more than your alleged 260 titles.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 10:58:31 AM
If you did not lie then at the very least you intentionally misled, particularly when stating that the account on PCED was not yours after you had linked to it as yours. Is it any wonder people smelled a rat? And one thing about this forum - once people smell bullshit, there is nowhere to hide, and they are very good at smelling it. Perhaps if you were a little more forthcoming with the 'facts' a little earlier this would not have gone on for so long.
Well,lesson is learned. To not share with anyone,to not even speak of such stuff with anyone. That's not worth the hassle. Such as i remember donating for the Space Fantasy Zone proto back in the time,and when one of your members (friend?) decided to sell it by itself on Yahoo, by greed. Then we decided with Omar to release it for free. Because greed is everywhere.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 10:59:41 AM
Well, I started a PC Engine collection a few months ago... I really like the NEC consoles and games.
I'm from Brazil, and for me, paying US$ 1.600,00 for a game is a complete utopia. I don't even earn this amount of money IN A YEAR. So, it would be very nice if Thibaut could share this Sapphire prototype with the community. Please, Thibaut. :-D
And sorry for my poor english.
After what we saw today,you can be 100% certain he won't share anything with that kind of people. That's not worth it. I wouldn't either.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 11:08:46 AM
Well, I started a PC Engine collection a few months ago... I really like the NEC consoles and games.
I'm from Brazil, and for me, paying US$ 1.600,00 for a game is a complete utopia. I don't even earn this amount of money IN A YEAR. So, it would be very nice if Thibaut could share this Sapphire prototype with the community. Please, Thibaut. :-D
And sorry for my poor english.
After what we saw today,you can be 100% certain he won't share anything with that kind of people. That's not worth it. I wouldn't either.
Oh cut the crap already- his own friend- cosmos99 wouldn't even ask him for a copy because he knows he wouldn't get it. You guys can stop the act.
And now it's suddenly you responsible for the release of Space Fantasy Zone? Funny how you didn't mention this before- surely it would've been the first thing you said if it was true. As for people selling it- 1) Who cares since the rom was already available? and 2) there was a thread about that here- I don't believe that any of us knew personally the guy who was making official-looking copies of it- and the guy did a good job with the package anyway- kudos for him.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 11:18:09 AM
Riddle me this, Batman: How did nat insult Thibaut?
Here it is, Robin: To tatsujin's post talking PRECISELY about Thibaut: he statet in an other forum, that he will feed us with informations about the game and its differences to the regular one. but i guess, he will not like to share the data as an ISO with us
He answered: "See, I just don't get that. That is selfishness to the ultimate degree and there is no justifiable reason for it."
He's clearly talking about Thibaut.There is no confusion possible about this. Tatsujin said "HE" about Thibaut, no mistake about it. and Nat answered to that. To "supposed" Thibaut's action,so said by Tatsujin.
And i'm not a supposed lawyer. I AM. So my master in business law degree says. And i'm not rich either. Lawyer condition in Europe isn't the same at all than in USA,but US people looks so closed on themselves (looking to your comments) they wouldn't realize that.
Furthermore, I'm beginning to suspect you don't know the definition of the word 'selfish'. It is most commonly defined as the act of placing one's own needs or desires above the needs or desires of others, which Thibaut's response clearly shows to be applicable: This unarguably shows that Thibaut is trying to protect his wallet (i.e. his own needs/desires) when he won't share the game (i.e. the needs/desires of others). Whether or not he is justified in this action is entirely irrelevant in the argument regarding selfishness.
And? Where is the harm here? Are you still living under communism era? And i'm pretty sure you're doing the same with your properties,such as your car...unless you let everybody in your neighbourhood using your car,or your home... Nat- said: there is no justifiable reason for it
How so? He worked hard to earn the money to buy it. Isn't it a reason enough to enjoy his buy? If you go the shop,do you immediately give away your buyings to the first guy in the street?
Necromancer: I'm a lawyer. I'm not talking without knowing the subject, like you do.
That sounds like a snap judgment from someone who knows nothing about me. Don't you think that's a tad hypocritical considering you've complained multiple times of similar behavior?
It seems to be the commun rule here, to speak without knowing the person, you beginning about Thibaut. On your SECOND post on this thread, you say: "I've no doubt that if nat had the inclination to buy one, he wouldn't hesitate to share it with others. Why? Because he's not a selfish scrooge. " What is that supposed to mean? That Thibaut is a selfish scrooge? since the whole thread is about him and his buying. Explain yourself..who were you pointing at/thinking of when you said that?
Too, if you're a lawyer as well, then you're one not knowing a damn thing about French law or other law systems over the world.That's a shame US doesn't learn other law systems in this world to their own lawyers. It could be useful.
Is it nothing in common, which would be 100% different, or is it 60% different? You can't have it both ways, so stow your haughty attitude and air of superiority. Moreover, I didn't state with absolute certainty that the French legal system was identical to the U.S. system, but only that I doubted that there is much difference in the assignation of blame. [/quote]
That's an EXPRESSION. You're going ridiculous. You really don't understand the expression "they have nothing in common"? If you say "joe& Ted have nothing in common" will you really answer "no that's wrong,they have something in common,they're both men! So, no, they have something in common" Now tell me, are you THAT PICKY?! Or even a french stupid lawyer like me understand better that expression than you, an english native?
There is clearly a difference in assignation of blame. You can doubt it all the wya you want,that won't change facts. Read books,and see it by yourself. In France, the example given by someone else ,which was: normally illegal activity is excused in U.S. law is when it prevents a greater crime from being committed or in matters of self defense.
is COMPLETELY prohibited.Illegal activity cannot be excused under any circumstance,even that one.you'll be pursued for doing that.
And opposedly, if you get in a fight started by someone else who punched you first, the "excuse de provocation" can be used and generally the first one will be only punished, since the 2nd one only acted because the1st one provoked it. Look at "excuse de provocation", you'll get your answer. And I'm not talking about "legitime defense" here. That's why i said the first one,starting this, is the responsible one.That's how it works here. For 200 hundred years,with the 1801 Civil Code.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 11:25:39 AM
And now it's suddenly you responsible for the release of Space Fantasy Zone? Funny how you didn't mention this before- surely it would've been the first thing you said if it was true. As for people selling it- 1) Who cares since the rom was already available? and 2) there was a thread about that here- I don't believe that any of us knew personally the guy who was making official-looking copies of it- and the guy did a good job with the package anyway- kudos for him.
Lol. You really don't know what happened then..? You don't know much. We donated for the release. At the time, it wasn't released ANYWHERE. The money was collected,and we got the game, but nobody was supposed to share it. Then i remember a BT Garner's friend/person he knows (so was told on smspower board) was selling it for making bucks on Yahoo Japan. That was a huge shock, to see such "betrayal" was possible. I remember huge hate towards BTgarner back at the time,in french forums. Don't know if that was deserved at all. The sales being seen on YJA, a majority of the donators decided (not me only,many of the forum who donated) that the best way to cut the crap out,is to release it for free. To everyone, not just the few of us. At that PRECISE moment, it was released wildly.But that was NOT the original plan at all. Ask Omar from SMSpower then, by yourself. He's probably a liar too,huh? I named you some of the biggest websites on VG communities (Guardiana for MD,NESWorld for NES?SMS power for SMS),but clearly they're really lying to cover me. How convenient. I really have great friends ^^
That's the kind of story that make those kind of games so hard to obtain now from japanese collectors. Your ideal (sharing the stuff with everybody), they don't take it. that's not what they want.
For your 2), i know Tobias William Reich. Since he created his Garden of War. But the fact he produced those "looking good"copies has nothing to do with that story, he produced them YEARS after the donation/release. I was not talking about that seller, i'm talking about the "leak" between the donators.
Good night,boys.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 11:37:44 AM
Yeah- he sold it years after the release- which is why I said "As for people selling it- 1) Who cares since the rom was already available?"- so why you're typing YEARS in caps like its some kind of point is beyond me.
And you're speaking of this guy that leaked it- you talk like he's some kind of a crook. Good for him. It's because of this guy (and Nat) that I myself have a CDR copy- he's my hero.
"The money was collected,and we got the game, but nobody was supposed to share it."
Typical.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 11:44:28 AM
Another thing- you're leaving out the chapter on Space Fantasy Zone being released along with a Japanese PCEngine fanzine. How does that fit in?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 11:44:28 AM
Yeah- he sold it years after the release- which is why I said "As for people selling it- 1) Who cares since the rom was already available?"- so why you're typing YEARS in caps like its some kind of point is beyond me.
And you're speaking of this guy that leaked it- you talk like he's some kind of a crook. Good for him. It's because of this guy (and Nat) that I myself have a CDR copy- he's my hero.
"The money was collected,and we got the game, but nobody was supposed to share it."
Typical.
Are you stupid? I never talked about Tobias sales. If he sells them,good for him. I wroted years in caps to clearly say he has nothing to do with the leak, if that was too hard to understand for you. It probably was.
About your "typical"comment, we don't dictate the rules. The owners do. If japanese owners want it done that way,you follow it.If not,well ,then that will be te last deal you'll make with them. That was the last one.
If the leak guy is your hero,then great for you. But he's a crook. He betrayed dozens (hundreds?) of other people. Nothing to be proud of. That's partly because of him you won't get any other stuff anymore, because japanese collectors didn't like it. Enjoy, that was the last. Thanks to him. Your hero is the one that stole your dreams. Kudos.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 11:45:22 AM
If the leak guy is your hero,then great for you. But he's a crook. He betrayed dozens (hundreds?) of other people. Nothing to be proud of. That's partly because of him you won't get any other stuff anymore, because japanese collectors didn't like it. Enjoy, that was the last. Thanks to him. Your hero is the one that stole your dreams.
This is a hilarious catch-22 you got going on- man if you're a lawyer you suck- flat out. You're saying that no one will ever share games anymore because someone shared one? Is that what you're trying to say? And this makes sense how? You guys DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE. Some guy shared it- and the result is what? YOU STILL DON'T WANT TO SHARE.
If I ever need a catch-22 defense I'll be sure to consult with the lawfirm of Adol, Adol and Pinocchio.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 11:57:14 AM
Another thing- you're leaving out the chapter on Space Fantasy Zone being released along with a Japanese PCEngine fanzine. How does that fit in?
I'm curious about that chapter, enlight me, so i can have a good laugh ^^ But it's 1am, take your time.
Haha- honestly I have no clue- just wanted to see if there was any truth to the rumor that it was released as such.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Arkhan on July 09, 2009, 12:00:46 PM
First....
buying an expensive, overpriced, OMGRAER CD-R and then not sharing a rip of it is idiotic. You essentially have a bootleg. In fact I think it'd be AWESOME if what you have is a bootleg of the original. You can't really tell since its a CD-R. Heres to hoping someone copied their original CD-R and sold it to you. In fact I bet they did because they knew someone like you would be like OMG and buy it. They are now laughing at you , and swimming in the money.
That is really what separates the actual PC-Engine community from the stragglers that just buy up what they can , hoard it, and don't share or interact with the community at large.. There is a place for people like that, and its called the Commodore community. Had a guy like this buy up EVERYTHING for obscene prices, crashed the market for Commodore items and then disappeared. Hoarding all sorts of stuff. Total joke. Lot of people like that in C= world.. .hoarding all kinds of stuff and even make posts saying things like "I have that! Dont need it, but you cant have it" to people looking for that particular item. I hope your penis feels extremely huge with your overpriced CD-R. It won't do much else for you I'm afraid.
This is the reason I think that the PC Engine/ Turbo Grafx community is alot less extravagant than all the NES etc. groups. The stuff is/was rare and you get a few people that just swoop down and f*ck it all up by hoarding it and not sharing. Thank god Thibaut doesn't own the Hu7 development stuff. I hope they are sitting forgotten in a box somewhere at NEC or Hudson. At least they're resting peacefully instead of being imprisoned by some shmuck that wont even USE them. Hell just post a picture and be like "I have this! :-D Look at me! Im so cool! I have DEVELOPMENT EQUIPMENT!" :roll:
Second....
the credibility of Thibaut's "hard work" crap pretty much immediately flies out the window the second Adol2009 and friends come in to back him up. Why? Well, lets just say all of Adol2009's incriminating edits should read "Bored of my own stupidity" or "Defeated by my own stupidity". Adol, Editing all your posts doesn't change the fact that we all saw the stupidity you typed. All it does is makes it apparent that you are trying to cover up your ill fated attempt at defending Thibaut. and, a twin? Seriously? prove it. Lets see you and your twin. and you better not just take some pic with a random dude your age and be like WERE NOT IDENTICAL TWINS. I could go take pictures with like 40 people and say my mom blasted out 40 twins that arent identical. Doesnt make it true. Ydig?
I doubt Thibaut had to "work hard" for this stuff. Your average PCE fan doesn't have that much flow laying around for shits and giggles to buy a CD-R. He/She also isn't stupid enough to spend that much if he had to "work hard" for it. Its a luxury. Something you have and take for granted. You clearly dont understand the value of anything. As long as you have it, you don't care whats going on. You're set! You have all the OMGRAER stuff and you can sit and stare and get a tickle in your pants about it. Go you! Do you even play any of it? You did remember to buy a console and AV cables/Power adaptor in all your frivolous spending?
Goddamn.
If I end up with a buncha spare cash and buy PC Cocoron I'll burn and mail everyone a copy.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 12:01:43 PM
If the leak guy is your hero,then great for you. But he's a crook. He betrayed dozens (hundreds?) of other people. Nothing to be proud of. That's partly because of him you won't get any other stuff anymore, because japanese collectors didn't like it. Enjoy, that was the last. Thanks to him. Your hero is the one that stole your dreams.
This is a hilarious catch-22 you got going on- man if you're a lawyer you suck- flat out. You're saying that no one will ever share games anymore because someone shared one? Is that what you're trying to say? And this makes sense how? You guys DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE. Some guy shared it- and the result is what? YOU STILL DON'T WANT TO SHARE.
If I ever need a catch-22 defense I'll be sure to consult with the lawfirm of Adol, Adol and Pinocchio.
We decide to release it for free to everyone, in France at least using SMS Power platform,which is worldwidely known because my friend Omar is the guy who created the best SMS emulator ever (Meka). We used his "renommee" to touch the most people we can with this free release. To break the profit logic. So basically,maybe the guys who got you the game (then you got it,finally) was from a worldwide release that a bunch of guys, including me, decided. How ironic is that? LOL.
What I'm saying is that we donated (i donated $150,so did the others) for this game, along with George Palamara (if that name occurs to you?) getting in touch with a japanese collector. and this collector,known in japanese pce collectors circle,asked to NOT SHARE IT. that was HIS wish. Someone broke this wish. Cutting us out of the way getting more ever from them. Then i'm telling you now: go try get one now. Because of 1 stupid move,everything has fallen apart. The most clever way for anyone,including you, would have been to get everything,and then share everything at the same time once everything was obtained. But NO, it didn't work that way. And now,we're stuck/banned from this circle, until a japanese collector decides to sell 1 for profit (it happened 16 months ago,but i wasn't fast enough to BIN,so it'ss till again in japanese collector's hands...you know,the hoarders you hate so much) They won't share/sell, because we broke the trust. In long term, we lost BIG TIME. Congrats.
Is that clear now,or must i say it in French or Japanese?? (my bad you don't understand anything besides english)
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 12:02:48 PM
And now,we're stuck/banned from this circle, until a japanese collector decides to sell 1 for profit (it happened 16 months ago,but i wasn't fast enough to BIN,so it'ss till again in japanese collector's hands...you know,the hoarders you hate so much) They won't share/sell, because we broke the trust. In long term, we lost BIG TIME. Congrats.
Is that clear now,or must i say it in French or Japanese?? (my bad you don't understand anything besides english)
I wouldn't call the Japanese collectors hoarders. I'd call them more.... Japanese collectors. They don't really come interact with us since they do their own thing.
Plus, if they came here and seen you and your 3 wang circus, they'd go back where they came from almost immediately. lol
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 12:11:27 PM
I hope your penis feels extremely huge with your overpriced CD-R.
Huh? What the..? What overpriced CD-R are you talking about? I'm not getting any. You're confusing me with Thibaut maybe. Does that mean you didn't understand a damn thing about the whole story..? Haha.
Here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/07/sports/plus-track-and-field-chase-mayor-s-trophy-french-fare-well-at-the-armory.html
Now,looking at one of the most know US newspaper archive, which credibility cannot be denied, how RIDICULOUS do you feel? Maybe NY times tries to cover my lies too? You're getting more and more ridiculous. I can't imagine how stupid you'd feel reading the NY times article ^^
You clearly dont understand the value of anything.
Asking for free what people work hard for, you clearly don't either. When unemployed persons in Spain pay $3000 a year for going to the Real Madrid soccer games,how do they do? It's a luxury. and they're poor as well. They do it by passion. They eat pasta all year,i don't know. It's not uncompatible
And again,i'm not the one buying it,you're talking to the wrong person. You're not even able to speak to the correct person! Haha.
Plus, if they came here and seen you and your 3 wang circus, they'd go back where they came from almost immediately. lol
Your comment clearly shows you never dealt with them ^^ There's no way they'd come here either. You need to speak japanese first. Something only rare members here seem to be capable of. lol.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 12:14:13 PM
There was no caught- doofus- there is another thread here from awhile back- I CAN PULL IT UP FOR YOU IF YOU LIKE where I ask someone else about the rumor of the fanzine release- trust me- this isn't something I'm concocting on the spot.
CAUGHT is more like when I said that you had PC Cocoron listed - and you said I was a liar while you scrambled to erase it from your list -- meanwhile I had the image saved and showed it- and then you said I manipulated the image until someone else came in and said that on a search list your name still showed as the owner- and then you say OH THAT LIST ISN'T MINE there's plenty of Adols although LMFAO it's the same account that you linked to after you erased the title. Then caught yet again you say oh wait it's my TWIN'S list he MUST HAVE JUST ERASED THE TITLE as he was communicating with me via telepathy or whatever and then you scramble to erase the evidence of your stupidity meanwhile the best bits have already been quoted- LOL -- THAT'S BEING CAUGHT.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 12:16:38 PM
where I ask someone else about the rumor of the fanzine release- trust me-
That's the point. You cannot be trusted. You can only be laughed at. Good night,clown.
CAUGHT is more like when I said that you had PC Cocoron listed - and you said I was a liar while you scrambled to erase it from your list -- meanwhile I had the image saved and showed it- and then you said I manipulated the image until someone else came in and said that on a search list your name still showed as the owner- and then you say OH THAT LIST ISN'T MINE there's plenty of Adols although LMFAO it's the same account that you linked to after you erased the title. Then caught yet again you say oh wait it's my TWIN'S list he MUST HAVE JUST ERASED THE TITLE as he was communicating with me via telepathy or whatever. THAT'S BEING CAUGHT.
Of course i'd say that. Because i know i haven't it,and i never had it.Neither my bro.So i don't see why you were stupid enough to force me giving for free something i don't have. But,as incredible as it sounds,you were. Here,that's your game:
---------------------------- /PC Cocoron CDR for Sinistron / ----------------------------
Take it. I'm your new hero now. Good night, "jackass".
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Arkhan on July 09, 2009, 12:18:39 PM
I hope your penis feels extremely huge with your overpriced CD-R.
Huh? What the..? What overpriced CD-R are you talking about? I'm not getting any. You're confusing me with Thibaut maybe. Does that mean you didn't understand a damn thing about the whole story..? Haha.
No, you just think the whole post is about yourself. Did you buy the CD-R? no. Note how i talk about you AND Thibaut? No need to attempt to make me look stupid. I understand the whole story just fine. We will chalk it up to your stupidity getting the best of you again. Sound good?
and... so what, you post an article about twins running. Proves nothing. I could find an article about twins too.
even if you do have a twin, that just means theres double the stupid really. You're both liars.
....and, I understand the value of stuff perfectly fine. If I could afford a CD-R that is rare and alot of people who are less fortunate couldnt, Id be more than happy to share it..Noone gains anything from someone just sitting on a CD doing nothing about it. The things rare anyways. Not that many people can obtain it anyways. Even if we all had money falling out of our asses. Not sharing something that rare is just a selfish joke.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Arkhan on July 09, 2009, 12:21:43 PM
Plus, if they came here and seen you and your 3 wang circus, they'd go back where they came from almost immediately. lol
Your comment clearly shows you never dealt with them ^^ There's no way they'd come here either. You need to speak japanese first. Something only rare members here seem to be capable of. lol.
Lol never dealt with them?
*looks at Sony MSXes, Japanese books, Develo stuff.... other imports....all obtained from friends/hookups in Japan*
Riiiiiight. I dont know anything. My bad. Adol and Adol2 know everything about Japan.
dumbdumb.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 12:25:33 PM
No, you just think the whole post is about yourself.
no, i don't. You were talking about a twin,and i'm the ony one having one between me a Thibaut. You didn't quote any,that was confusing. There is a quote function,use it.
and... so what, you post an article about twins running. Proves nothing. I could find an article about twins too.
Ahah. Proves everything. Crossmate it with all the other hints,and you'll get your answer, Holmes. I'm done. Even when New york Times throws the truth at your head,you still deny it. Lameful. Good night everyone. ^^
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 12:27:01 PM
*looks at Sony MSXes, Japanese books, Develo stuff.... other imports....all obtained from friends/hookups in Japan* Riiiiiight. I dont know anything. My bad. Adol and Adol2 know everything about Japan.
You're comparing getting unrare stuff that you can get with any ebay japanese seller, and japanese PCE collectors owning one of a kind items that it'll take you months to get in touch with.
dumbdumb
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 12:33:56 PM
CAUGHT is also when Tweedle Dee (or Dum -- which one are you?) says that the reason he won't handle over his protos is either because the proto will then lose it's high monetary value or because he isn't getting a return on his investment -- when shown that the release of such DOES not affect the monetary value he says nothing- when told that members are more than willing to chip in for the release of such goods he says well ask Thibaut but he won't give it now because Sinistron is such a Jackass- and then Thibaut's FRIEND comes in and says he himself has zero chance of getting a copy- and then Tweedle Dee/Dum carries on that he didn't want to share SPACE FANTASY ZONE and he was pissed when someone else did- and that's somehow the wraparound reason why no one wants these games shared- because they were shared. That's also CAUGHT- and furthermore it's just plain stupidity. Sleep well, fool.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 09, 2009, 12:36:43 PM
So heres a question..as Space Fantasy Zone was NOT supposed to be "shared"...you are now willing to "share" rares/protos as long as you get your $ back???
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: guyjin on July 09, 2009, 12:50:05 PM
Personally, I would have wanted Tengen to never develop any games :)
But... but... Marble Madness! Gauntlet! Rampart! Tengen Tetris! (show me someone who's played both who prefers Nintendo's version, I dare you!) How can you wish these games never existed? [-X
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 01:12:04 PM
Personally, I would have wanted Tengen to never develop any games :)
But... but... Marble Madness! Gauntlet! Rampart! Tengen Tetris! (show me someone who's played both who prefers Nintendo's version, I dare you!) How can you wish these games never existed? [-X
Marble Madness RULES. It's one of the main protos I pray would be released if it actually exists- and Hammerin' Harry- if that too exists.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Tatsujin on July 09, 2009, 02:25:02 PM
Personally, I would have wanted Tengen to never develop any games :)
But... but... Marble Madness! Gauntlet! Rampart! Tengen Tetris! (show me someone who's played both who prefers Nintendo's version, I dare you!) How can you wish these games never existed? [-X
Marble Madness RULES. It's one of the main protos I pray would be released if it actually exists- and Hammerin' Harry- if that too exists.
LOL..i was kidding. they made some good (even very few) games. marble madness and tetris (ok, thats just an adaption of 100erds of otheres) are good examples. not so the gauntlet fan here.
anyway, they acted more as an adaptor than a real developer. and they made some of the most worse games ever hited the VG marked (pity teh f00l fighter e.g.).
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Arkhan on July 09, 2009, 04:19:29 PM
*looks at Sony MSXes, Japanese books, Develo stuff.... other imports....all obtained from friends/hookups in Japan* Riiiiiight. I dont know anything. My bad. Adol and Adol2 know everything about Japan.
You're comparing getting unrare stuff that you can get with any ebay japanese seller, and japanese PCE collectors owning one of a kind items that it'll take you months to get in touch with.
The point is, you make it sound like were all idiots here and you are some cultural godsend because you can speak/read Japanese and converse with "collectors".
Sorry boss, a mint in box Sony HB-F1XDJ is not "unrare". You are viewing it all through rose tinted glasses since you hang with people that are retarded and throw away thousands on a f*ckin CD-R. My bad. Sorry we aren't livin it up like you and your posse of badass collectors. Lol. At least we enjoy what we purchase instead of rubbing our dicks on it all.
There is no such thing as one-of-a-kind items for the PCE really. If it were really one of a kind, you bozos sure wouldn't be the ones getting in touch with them either. Someone that deserves them would be, and already has them I am sure.
and as for the quote function, why? There were names used in my post. There is this thing called context. I'd imagine you should be smart enough to understand what that is, and how to deduce who I am speaking about. You didn't buy a CD-R therefore I must not be speaking about you. Man.
Later, I refer to the twin crap and even use your name. That is when I am talking about you.
If you need a forum quote button to understand clearly written paragraphs, then I'm sorry. Maybe your twin got that part of your brain. Ask him if its in his collection.
and for that matter, how do we know that article you posted is about YOU. it could be about some people you know. and you could be using it just to cover your ass since you lie and are all flakey as it is.
It is pretty irrelevant either way. One of you, two of you, you are both liars and dipshits. Unfortunate as it is.
Why are you even here honestly. Over half your posts are from this thread, and over half of those are edited to where they say nothing anymore. You're just kinda wasting space with your douchefaggery. Peddle your 3p1c1337s4uc3 collector bullshit somewhere else. I don't think any of us care about you and your buddies collections, or who you are in "touch" with, or what you deal with. You're a bunch of money flaunting pricks that just happened to buy a bunch of PC Engine goods and now fancy yourself PCE/Japanese collecting gurus. Perfectly educated in the ways of collecting, communities, and the like.
What a waste
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 05:47:49 PM
You're right. What a waste. I was trying to speak with normal human beings,but the only thing you're capable of are insults and racist comments. Just read your post once again,you're just being insulting in most of it,and even make personal attacks on my brother who still isn't there. Congrats for the cowerful attack. It is so easy to do it behind a screen, especially when the guy isn't here to answer. Brilliant.
We have one-of-a-king pce items, as well as develo stuff,etc... so it seems we "deserve" it after all. And you don't. If you think that's about deserving it or not ,even if that's not how it works. It's nice you have your "rare" msx. If you consider it rare,good for you. I have msx stuff as well, that was my first system when i was 5 (when msx were $40 worth back at the time used ^^),and i'll always have love for it.
About develo stuff,i was wondering: did the PCE Modem bios was released?
I enjoy as much my games as you,if not better,thank you. Again,what a arrogant manner to consider you're worth better than any of collectors. the gamer is always worth better than the collector. He cannot consider the collector is a player in the first place as well, and is one of his kind.
SO typical. I've seen that dozens of times,and i can't stop laughing the same arguments come over and over.
Got a plane to catch, see ya. You're right.. What a waste.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nat on July 09, 2009, 05:56:21 PM
Bon voyage!
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: chop5 on July 09, 2009, 06:28:47 PM
this thread is boring and pointless so now i add this to help readers along in mid thread cause i get a feeling it will go over 20 pages :P
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 09, 2009, 06:30:26 PM
make personal attacks on my brother who still isn't there. Congrats for the cowerful attack. It is so easy to do it behind a screen, especially when the guy isn't here to answer. Brilliant.
He sure defended himself last night eh? Or was he too busy foreseeing your ploy by erasing PC Cocoron from your shared list the second it was brought up?
We have one-of-a-king pce items, as well as develo stuff,etc... so it seems we "deserve" it after all. And you don't. If you think that's about deserving it or not ,even if that's not how it works.
One-of-a-king? Which one? Midas? You have the items- therefore you deserve it- good rationalization.
I have msx stuff as well, that was my first system when i was 5 (when msx were $40 worth back at the time used ^^),and i'll always have love for it.
So not only are you a champion written up cross country star running lawyer who also runs a videogame shop (you on EBay?) and has a telekinetically inclined Wonder Twin who magically does all this and has almost every videogame in existence without being rich- but you were also a wunderkind videogamer from the tender age of 5. What are you? Billy Mitchell, L. Ron Hubbard, Howard Hughes and Ripley all rolled into one? Color me impressed.
Coming back to NY for another miracle mile to be covered by the NY Times? Why not drop by then- I've got a real L337 "proto" you might be interested in- wait- never mind. My evil twin LazerBeak just erased it from my collection.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: BlackandBlue on July 09, 2009, 06:57:58 PM
I can't believe I missed out in all the fun.
I might believe that Adol is a lawyer. He changed the story around so many times, then tried to make Sini look like the bad guy. That's some good stuff. But too bad he sucked at it and could only try to cover his lies by deleting them from the posts. Try that in court.
Oh, I like how his twin has the same name as him. Must have been hard growing up, you know, deciphering who was who.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: ceti alpha on July 09, 2009, 07:44:51 PM
Personally, I would have wanted Tengen to never develop any games :)
But... but... Marble Madness! Gauntlet! Rampart! Tengen Tetris! (show me someone who's played both who prefers Nintendo's version, I dare you!) How can you wish these games never existed? [-X
Marble Madness RULES. It's one of the main protos I pray would be released if it actually exists- and Hammerin' Harry- if that too exists.
Marble Madness ftw! I would kill for a TG/PCE port.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 07:53:26 PM
Sinistron: Read the NY times article better. We were international long jumpers, not cross country runners. Even Arkhan made the same mistake. Lol. I thought pointing to one of your national most know newspapers, written in your language would be easy to read for both of you. I was wrong,then. You can't even read an article correctly.
"He sure defended himself last night eh? " My brother never posted here,what the hell are you talking about? Once again,plain bullshit.
Too, writing your lol/ggo/l337/h5468k expressions is pointless, since only english native speakers can understand it. I could say to you "t'es trop un cave,jamais vu un golmon pareil",but what the point? You wouldn't understand. You're just good to mock a typo misake fore "king" instead of "kind" i wrote at 1:30 ma, wakinf up at 6:20. Brilliant. That was your strongest argument.
You can feel free to believe that i'm a lawyer or not,that i began playing japanese video games at 5, that i was international long jumper, or whatever you want. That won't change facts. Your opinion is worth nothing facing facts ^^ Same in trial: facing clear evidences and proven facts from reputable sources, your opinion is worth nothing. Same here ^^
Black and Blue: of course we have the same name,as twins. First names differ. Read the NYT article. And i can't cover what doesn't exist (lies,in present case).
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Thibaut on July 09, 2009, 09:06:45 PM
Sinistron : Do you know how many person who own some unreleased PCE games post on this forum ? Do you know how many person do complete reviews, screen-shots and videos of really rares PCE stuff (not Darius Alpha, or any HuCARD Special Version) ? Do you ever see reviews about Active Life Network, Imperial Force, Silent Mobius, Cosmic Yakyuuken Kanzenban, Mega Para Slot Game, Tanjo Gekitouchen, RPC Genjin, Marble Madness, Jaseiken Necromancer 3, Dino Force, Splendid Saga, J league Power Stadium,.... ?? And do you know why ?? Your attitude so agressive and arrogant. Think about it if you can.
Arkhan : "Thank god Thibaut doesn't own the Hu7 development stuff. I hope they are sitting forgotten in a box somewhere at NEC or Hudson."
Sorry but I have a complete Hu7D development system. I have done a lot of photos of each piece with all details,... Do you ever see somewhere else ?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Arkhan on July 09, 2009, 09:10:17 PM
When the hell did I make a racist comment?! :P Sure slipped by me that's for sure. Unless retards and dipshits are some newly discovered race of people.
Sorry if my insults make you upset. Sometimes the truth of the matter hurts. and telling me "oh its easy to do it behind the screen". Yeah that is a pretty typical response when you dont have a valid rebuttal.... Though, I would definitely say the same crap right to you if you were standing here. Your twin too. No joke. Long jump to my town and we can have a talk! :wink:
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It seems you just don't like the fact that someone is telling you that your pompous money waving collector posse that sits in with Japanese collectors and does all this behind the scenes special ops crap is a big joke and it really wrecks the enjoyment of collecting/hobby stuff.
What one of a kind items do you have anyway? I highly doubt you have "one of a kind" items. The one of a kind stuff is sitting in a vault, or some bigwig at Hudson/NEC's house. Its not sitting with you and your twin or whatever. I could make some one of a kind CD-Rs of games right now actually. I could take the game im working on , slap together a prototype-like demo, write some crap on the CD-R and put it up on eBay/Yahoo. You would purchase it, yes? Its one of a kind, never released to the public, and never going to be seen again! That means you have to have it! This could be my ticket to having a ton of spare money to blow on stuff.
and as was said, its really smooth to bust out the "omg you yelled at me, youre arrogant" card, and then say some stupid crap about "I enjoy the same, if not better". No offense here but while youre out grabbing "one of a kinds" and all of that, the rest of us are playing games/working on our fansites/working on games and stuff for the PCE. Or posting here to talk about stuff. How much of your post count here has been used for USEFUL talking. The ones you erased and replaced the content with "bored of sinistrons stupidity" really answers that I think. Also, insulting a member here like that (you do realize that since you posted so damn much, and edited all of them, your insult is plastered over like 7 pages of this thread) opens up the flood gates for you to be flamed. From my standpoint at least. You can't come in here out of nowhere and call someone stupid, and then get upset when someone insults you. Hypocrisy much?
Who enjoys what more is not really a competition. I wasn't trying to make it seem that way... Im just pointing out that it sure seems like you and your buddies are more concerned with what you have, how much it cost, or how you got it/who it came from as opposed to what you actually DO with it. I have a friend that spends thousands of dollars buying games and most of them are sitting in a drawer untouched. 12 PS2 games all at one time and he opened one of them. That was 5 years ago.
Im proud that I own the box to Davis Cup Tennis AND it has the foam thing inside it. Its a piece of crap, but man do I own that box like no mans business.
Honestly, I don't think anyone here really cares where their stuff comes from or what collector circles/cliques any of it is from. Cliques and "collector circles" and shit about "oh noone here knows anything about Japanese collectors" is best left unmentioned. Thats highschool bullshit. If my latest purchase came from some crack dealing axe murderer that slaughtered a few dozen people 15 minutes before mailing my package, I dont care, as long as my stuff shows up and I can play it. If the Pope sold me a game on ebay, big deal. What should I do if he does? Make a huge post to brag that I have a game that the pope touched and then resell it on ebay for like, 90000$? Hell no. Im going to post a picture in the whatd you buy today thread and go "look what I got!" and then play it.
on that note.... Some of the users here LIVE in Japan. Do you live in Japan? In fact someone that posts here runs a store in Japan. You are inadvertently talking to Japanese collectors while saying crap about us not knowing anything about Japanese collectors. Bang up job there.
You might know these things if you posted here for real community related topics instead of rolling in to defend dropping what, 150,000 Yen/~150$ on a CD-R thats probably a bootleg of the real one? A real collector would see the futility in hiding away a CD-R and archive it on a PC and share it around for everyone. Hoarding burned CDs is pretty retarded. It reminds me of those dicks back when napster was cool that would cancel your downloads mid download. Its a SHARING program. Stop unsharing.
all of this reminds me alot of why I and a few (dozen) others bailed on the C= community. Too many high and mighty goons flailing around stirring up bullshit. They dont care if they bring the whole damn scene to the ground as long as theyre the one standing on top of it when it happens. We dont need that in the PCE scene. Guy needs clips for his SX-64, one of the guys posts "I have extras but you cant have them". Whats the point? or my favorite:
"I have about 200 of those floppy drives stacked up here! Im not selling any of them though, but ill show you this picture just to be a dick".
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Arkhan on July 09, 2009, 09:17:50 PM
Sinistron : Do you know how many person who own some unreleased PCE games post on this forum ? Do you know how many person do complete reviews, screen-shots and videos of really rares PCE stuff (not Darius Alpha, or any HuCARD Special Version) ? Do you ever see reviews about Active Life Network, Imperial Force, Silent Mobius, Cosmic Yakyuuken Kanzenban, Mega Para Slot Game, Tanjo Gekitouchen, RPC Genjin, Marble Madness, Jaseiken Necromancer 3, Dino Force, Splendid Saga, J league Power Stadium,.... ?? And do you why ?? Your attitude so agressive and arrogant. Think about it if you can.
Arkhan : "Thank god Thibaut doesn't own the Hu7 development stuff. I hope they are sitting forgotten in a box somewhere at NEC or Hudson."
Sorry but I have a complete Hu7D development system. I have done a lot of photos of each piece with all details,... Do you ever see somewhere else ?
Oh your "i want this I pay lots of money" list must be outdated. And yes I've seen the Hu7 stuff elsewhere. You arent some unprecedented sourced for OMGRAER pcengine knowledge, lol. Though I am jealous of your Hu7 stuff.
the way you point out what you do like it should be impressive, and the fact that I've never seen any of it.... really shows how monumental what you are doing is....Ive honestly never heard about you until this thread... *shrug* But I knew about Hu7 and all of the other stuff you just mentioned.....so if you are trying to be a go-to source for the community, you are doing a pisspoor job
sorry if you are some revered source for info and I've missed it this whole time, but the whole elitist collector/contributor status thing is kind of lame. The developers themselves wouldn't even pull crap like that probably, and they are the ones who really have the right to.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 09, 2009, 10:54:07 PM
When the hell did I make a racist comment?! :P Sure slipped by me that's for sure. Unless retards and dipshits are some newly discovered race of people.
Sorry if my insults make you upset. Sometimes the truth of the matter hurts. and telling me "oh its easy to do it behind the screen". Yeah that is a pretty typical response when you dont have a valid rebuttal.... Though, I would definitely say the same crap right to you if you were standing here. Your twin too. No joke. Long jump to my town and we can have a talk!
What one of a kind items do you have anyway? I highly doubt you have "one of a kind" items. The one of a kind stuff is sitting in a vault, or some bigwig at Hudson/NEC's house.
How much of your post count here has been used for USEFUL talking. Also, insulting a member here like that (you do realize that since you posted so damn much, and edited all of them, your insult is plastered over like 7 pages of this thread) opens up the flood gates for you to be flamed. From my standpoint at least. You can't come in here out of nowhere and call someone stupid, and then get upset when someone insults you.
All of this reminds me alot of why I and a few (dozen) others bailed on the C= community.
You're right.You insulting others is the complete typical answer when you don't have a valid rebuttal. Thanks for pointing it out.
The racist comment was from sinistron. No need to quote,there is a thing called context.
Thibaut own one-of-a-kind PCE item for sure.Historical PCE object. He already reviewed it for any pce lovers, come to french forums and you'll see his review. that'll be a time you'll learn something.
I came here because ppl was flamming somebody for something he hasn't done yet,about an item he hasn't got yet. How cowardful is that? I don't care about the lame&racist insults i get, that just only shows to the world how rude you are. that wave of insults isn't valid rebuttalk,it's just showing how immature you are.
I'm sorry if people kicked you out of their napster downloadings...poor thiung,you've been kicked out like a hobo...ahah can't stop laughing imagining you crying in front of your computer ^^
About playing,you're 20 years late. I played most of my game back in the 90s, i played thousands of hours on my PCE and I loved every minute of it. But you playing 1 hour in 2009 doesn't make you more a gamer than me playing 10 hours in 1995. It's not a competition, there is no "update" needed. Besides, i can't have time to play PCE only, when i'm dedicated to 24 other systems. I love playing MD or SFC as well. 1 hour playing SFC isn't worth "less" than playing 1 hour PCE,that's ridiculous. thinking that would be elitist to the ultimate level.
Besides, what is the point between insulting someone and "telling the truth"? Something that you don't have. Manners. We can disagree, but manners prevent people to look like a dick. You don't have some, then you look like a dick. I came here only because i was looking how rude you were treating Thibaut. How lame that "shower of rocks" looked like, on somebody who couldn't answer correctly in English. And you dicks were only able to say "what?i can't decipher your sentences"...how lame is that? how old are you to have such behaviour?
Yeah, you can come here, telling me what you think face to face. I'm waiting you ahah. I'll love to hear it with my own ears. Come if you dare.
If you left the C= scene,that's probably because your attitude wasn't accepted there, and you got kicked out of the scene like a dirty hobo. That's probably what you deserved.
I invite you coming to our french forums, and you'll see my thousands of useful posts many thank me for. You're right I don't see how i can be useful here,you already know everything ,and mock people who made the sacrifices to fullfill their goals. Because you can't achieve what they achieved, "buuuuaaaaa, that's because he's rich!"...typical. Seen 100 times in forums.
Don't know what you'd think about the guy who won Aaron Nanto's Magical Chase then. Aaron is now bloody loaded. He should be lapidated,following your point of view.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 10, 2009, 12:50:53 AM
Look over here: http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23608
The guy has tons of unreleased and released betas of some MD Games. Look at the prices. Go ask him to release them for free, since "the money is spent and ain't come back" and see this selfish scrooge's answer by yourself. ^^ You'll probably be received just like your kick-out of Commodore scene.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: blueraven on July 10, 2009, 01:00:09 AM
I'm really disappointed.
In my humble opinion; This thread reflects poorly on the community as a whole.
Nevermore
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Thibaut on July 10, 2009, 01:00:51 AM
"And yes I've seen the Hu7 stuff elsewhere. You arent some unprecedented sourced for OMGRAER pcengine knowledge, lol. Though I am jealous of your Hu7 stuff."
Really ? Then please post the link of a complete development Hu7D.
"But I knew about Hu7 and all of the other stuff you just mentioned.....so if you are trying to be a go-to source for the community, you are doing a pisspoor job"
You don't understand my sentence (I know my english is very bad). Of course we know all stuff I have mentioned, my sentence is : "do you see complete reviews, screen-shots and videos...". Then could you answer to my questions ?
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: cosmos99 on July 10, 2009, 02:22:22 AM
Just a friend of him. And i could'nt figure to ask him for a free copy even if we are friends , but i understand your point of view in some ways.
ESTEBAN- You SEE? This guy's FRIENDS with him- and he knows better than to ask him for a copy.
This is what i call "respect" to others, yet he may be a friend , how could i dare to ask him for a free copy simply like that , doing nothing ?... And imagine if one day, one of them(thibaut or adol) would put the hand on pc cocoron , do you think they will still be willing to share something with such attitudes ? I'm not sure.The first thing to share with such expensive stuff if we want it should be its cost with the buyer.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: cosmos99 on July 10, 2009, 02:41:07 AM
Do you ever see reviews about Active Life Network, Imperial Force, Silent Mobius, Cosmic Yakyuuken Kanzenban, Mega Para Slot Game, Tanjo Gekitouchen, RPC Genjin, Marble Madness, Jaseiken Necromancer 3, Dino Force, Splendid Saga, J league Power Stadium,.... ?? And do you know why ??
And your point is? So you elite snobs don't come here- I suppose it's all my fault even though I've only been here a year and a half and haven't seen either of you post here- except when it's self serving and you jump on with a huge shopping list looking for rare wares/protos.
You say I'm aggressive and arrogant- yet fail to see that this is a community- and I'm NOT the only one here who gets nauseated when someone signs up with no intention of befriending the community but instead right off the bat drops some astronomical shopping list. HI! I'm THIBAUT! I have JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING but I STILL NEED THIS - You have? And don't even try to tell me that you didn't come off that way. THAT'S AGGRESSIVE and ARROGANT.
Think about it if you can.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 10, 2009, 03:39:24 AM
I just have to return to one of my favorite bits of logic here from Mr. Law himself- I still can't quite get over how numbskulled this one is:
"If the leak guy is your hero,then great for you. But he's a crook. He betrayed dozens (hundreds?) of other people. Nothing to be proud of. That's partly because of him you won't get any other stuff anymore, because japanese collectors didn't like it. Enjoy, that was the last. Thanks to him. Your hero is the one that stole your dreams."
Sooo... it's partly because of him that I won't get any other stuff anymore? You said YOURSELF you guys didn't want this released- you only decided to release it for free after this guy leaked it as a way to one-up him. So- basically- if he didn't leak it I'd have never seen it or owned it- or seen or owned ANY UNRELEASED games from the system's heyday- because you Scrooges DO NOT WANT anyone to have them.
So should I really be thanking him for never seeing another one? Or should I be thanking him for allowing me to actually see ONE that I wasn't supposed to see in the first place?
But you word it your way- because in reality it's all about YOU. You word it in disdain because perhaps it hurts YOUR chances of getting more unreleased games from this Japanese collector- games that you'd have ZERO intention of sharing with us anyway. So YEAH- this guy's my f*cking hero. He did what you greedy jerkoffs weren't willing to do- he SHARED the game.
He didn't just show people pictures of it along with his sterling collection so that others could drool over something they'd never get their hands on- like you and Thibaut love to do because it makes you guys feel sooo special. You make me SICK and I really do hope that the leak screwed up your possibilities of landing more unreleased protos. I can't think of a more unworthy pig to have such items.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 10, 2009, 05:15:36 AM
Sooo... it's partly because of him that I won't get any other stuff anymore? You said YOURSELF you guys didn't want this released-
I never said that. Learn TO READ ENGLISH CORRECTLY. I said the JAPANESE SELLER, didn't want it! That was HIS asking, HIS wish! He wasn't selling if we didn't respect that. Ask George Palamara yourself if you know who he is, douchebag. And learn to read or get back to school, but do something of your life. You can't read correctly a newspaper article, or understand simple sentences.
you only decided to release it for free after this guy leaked it as a way to one-up him.
Yes,since trust with japanese seller who WANTED this to not be shared (that's HIS wish,not ours,you have to respect it), what is the best to do?that, at least stop that crook for making big bucks on everybody's donation! Because that's what your hero did. Betraying others and making money on this. Not giving it away,selling SFZ for $1500! So we released it for free and,now you have it for free. You can thank me,as well as the other ones who donated,how ironic is that, haha. Turns out i'm your hero, hahahah.
So- basically- if he didn't leak it I'd have never seen it or owned it- or seen or owned ANY UNRELEASED games from the system's heyday- because you Scrooges DO NOT WANT anyone to have them.
That's not true. I decided,with other donators to release it for free. You got SFZ because of those donators,including me, in the first place.
He did what you greedy jerkoffs weren't willing to do- he SHARED the game.
Are you stupid? He didn't share the game,he was SELLING IT. for $1000+. Are you that dumb? I shared the game,along with other donators. Your stupidity is just unbelievable. Jamais vu un golmon pareil, t'es un sac de chez sac toi. Mais t'es tellement à la ramasse que tu pigeras même pas ce que je raconte, mongolito crevard.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Arkhan on July 10, 2009, 05:34:32 AM
You're right.You insulting others is the complete typical answer when you don't have a valid rebuttal. Thanks for pointing it out.
The racist comment was from sinistron. No need to quote,there is a thing called context.
Well, yes, I am insulting you. I am being very harsh. That's what you get when you come in here and call other members stupid. I present what I see and since you've ended up on my bad side, I wont really hold back or sugar coat the truth.
as for context. No, sorry, you screwed up your pathetic attempt at mocking me. You directly address me and my statement ("what a waste"), and then lump in the part about racism without changing the context of the sentence, or who you are addressing.
So the way you've set yourself up there, you are either getting on Sinistrons ass about his racist remark and then misquoting HIM as saying what a waste..... OR, you are quoting me saying what a waste, and then misquoting me as saying something racist. You should practice the concept of context a little more maybe....or just use the quote button since you can't handle it I guess.
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Thibaut own one-of-a-kind PCE item for sure.Historical PCE object. He already reviewed it for any pce lovers, come to french forums and you'll see his review. that'll be a time you'll learn something.
Whats he own thats one of a kind? Prove it. I doubt its one of a kind. The one of a kind stuff is sitting in a vault or at some NEC/Hudson/other developers house and you all dont even know about it. Nothing Thibaut owns is one of a kind. That kind of stuff doesnt just end up in the hands of some podunk french guy. I wont learn anything from a French forum really since I cant read / speak French. And if I could I doubt there is any new ground covered thats strictly French VIP
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I came here because ppl was flamming somebody for something he hasn't done yet,about an item he hasn't got yet. How cowardful is that? I don't care about the lame&racist insults i get, that just only shows to the world how rude you are. that wave of insults isn't valid rebuttalk,it's just showing how immature you are.
Well, Thibaut never denied that he wont be sharing the disc, and the way you 3 goons present your feelings on the matter lead me to believe it wont be shared. Kind of like how you said "what he hasnt done YET". You are right. He hasnt done it yet, and wont ever do it. Thats what you guys are saying.
and btw, you lumped me and sinistrons posts together again and addressed just me. Stop that.
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I'm sorry if people kicked you out of their napster downloadings...poor thiung,you've been kicked out like a hobo...ahah can't stop laughing imagining you crying in front of your computer ^^
Thats how pricks on Napster work. Download all the free crap they can, and never return the favor. I am not "kicked out" of anything. I just have to find a new peer. Did you ever even use P2P software? Crying in front of a computer? Please. When Napster stopped being useful everyone with a brain just moved onto the other 90 P2P programs like Morpheus, Kazaa, Limewire, Soulseek....
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About playing,you're 20 years late. I played most of my game back in the 90s, i played thousands of hours on my PCE and I loved every minute of it. But you playing 1 hour in 2009 doesn't make you more a gamer than me playing 10 hours in 1995. It's not a competition, there is no "update" needed. Besides, i can't have time to play PCE only, when i'm dedicated to 24 other systems. I love playing MD or SFC as well. 1 hour playing SFC isn't worth "less" than playing 1 hour PCE,that's ridiculous. thinking that would be elitist to the ultimate level.
First, im only 21. ;) 20 years ago I wasn't doing much of anything. Being late for playing? Its never too late to game. Playing for only 1 hour? lol. Gaming is pretty much my life. And im not talking just video games here. tabletop too. I put 10+ hrs into games a day. But like I said, its not a competition really and Im glad you actually play stuff instead of amassing goods that never get used. comparing numbers is a waste of time. I never said anything about playing another system besides pce making you "less of a gamer". You're jumping to conclusions and putting words in my mouth.
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Besides, what is the point between insulting someone and "telling the truth"? Something that you don't have. Manners. We can disagree, but manners prevent people to look like a dick. You don't have some, then you look like a dick. I came here only because i was looking how rude you were treating Thibaut. How lame that "shower of rocks" looked like, on somebody who couldn't answer correctly in English. And you dicks were only able to say "what?i can't decipher your sentences"...how lame is that? how old are you to have such behaviour?
Yeah, you can come here, telling me what you think face to face. I'm waiting you ahah. I'll love to hear it with my own ears. Come if you dare.
Manners? You called members here stupid. Repeatedly. I dont care if i look like a dick. I am a dick. and....again with lumping me into other peoples statements. I never said I cant decipher your sentences.. Being a dick is fun. It keeps me on my toes and keeps me from getting screwed over.
I understand that you are slightly older than me. 7 years or so I'd figure. Did you seriously just tell me to come to you "if I dare"? Is that some kind of idiotic empty threat? What would you do if i showed up (in france?) in person and said this same stuff? Honestly? What would you do if I "dare" show up? I told you I would say this stuff to you in person. Thats how I am. that doesnt mean you tell me to show up at your house to discuss these srs inranet biznesses in person. THAT makes you look like a dick. ;)
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If you left the C= scene,that's probably because your attitude wasn't accepted there, and you got kicked out of the scene like a dirty hobo. That's probably what you deserved.
I left the C= scene because it is the most dramatic bunch of people I have ever encountered. Not because they "dont like my attitude". A lot of people were bummed that I was leaving since I was helpful/coding a game/did some music stuff. Did you see the few examples I gave of the attitudes of people there? There are rifts in the C= community, and alot of it is so bad there are in person fights, lawsuits, police involvement.....theft/money scams. A lot of crap that has probably been instrumental in C= becoming the punch line to most computer communities jokes. A select handful of maybe 15 people bring that community into the ground. They have driven dozens of people out, and have really screwed things up for the Commodore community. Theyre the reason I never put Berzerk on the C64. I started it, and then thought "why bother" and decided the PCE is a better choice. The Commodore community is in shambles.
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I invite you coming to our french forums, and you'll see my thousands of useful posts many thank me for.
No thanks.
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You're right I don't see how i can be useful here,you already know everything ,and mock people who made the sacrifices to fullfill their goals. Because you can't achieve what they achieved, "buuuuaaaaa, that's because he's rich!"...typical. Seen 100 times in forums.
Don't know what you'd think about the guy who won Aaron Nanto's Magical Chase then. Aaron is now bloody loaded. He should be lapidated,following your point of view.
Well now that you've admitted you cant be useful here, what are you still doing posting? :) You are needed on the French intarwebs dude! Thanks for saying I know everything. I sure wish I did.
Sacrifices? Goals? If the goal is to blows tons of money hoarding stuff just to check it off of a list and then refuse to share certain hard to find/not readily available things with others in a pathetic attempt to establish some sort of enigmatic "contributor" internet presence, then yeah. Goal achieved. the sacrifice there is dignity Id say.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 10, 2009, 05:36:47 AM
You keep saying you shared the game, you shared the game- NOTHING changes the fact that you only decided to put it out for free AFTER this guy leaked it- so yeah- it's because of HIM that I got the game- not because of you.
You keep talking about this stupid article too- I saw the article about you and your brother- even had a picture:
(http://www.violentfix.com/cobra/tx6.jpg)
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Necromancer on July 10, 2009, 06:01:31 AM
Here it is, Robin: To tatsujin's post talking PRECISELY about Thibaut: he statet in an other forum, that he will feed us with informations about the game and its differences to the regular one. but i guess, he will not like to share the data as an ISO with us
He answered: "See, I just don't get that. That is selfishness to the ultimate degree and there is no justifiable reason for it."
He's clearly talking about Thibaut.There is no confusion possible about this. Tatsujin said "HE" about Thibaut, no mistake about it. and Nat answered to that. To "supposed" Thibaut's action,so said by Tatsujin.
You still don't comprehend the point: nat labeled the action of not sharing as selfish, not Thibaut himself. Admittedly, I'm arguing semantics, but as a lawyer you should be used to such proceedings.
In any case, Thibaut is indubitably acting selfishly by not sharing, so calling him selfish is not an insult. If you're capable of being honest, you'll agree that it is a matter of opinion (not fact) whether or not he is justified in such action (as the gold Nintendo World Championship cart has shown, copying of the data does not automatically deteriorate the value of the original), so that part of nat's statement likewise can't be characterized as an insult.
And i'm not a supposed lawyer. I AM. So my master in business law degree says. And i'm not rich either.
Nowhere have I questioned your financial status or whether or not you're a lawyer. Both issues are completely irrelevant and have zero bearing on this discussion.
Lawyer condition in Europe isn't the same at all than in USA,but US people looks so closed on themselves (looking to your comments) they wouldn't realize that.
Au contraire, mon frère. I clearly stated how the U.S. system works and that I doubted that the French system differed, leaving open the possibility that I was incorrect. You are the one arrogantly speaking in absolutes, not me.
And? Where is the harm here? Are you still living under communism era? And i'm pretty sure you're doing the same with your properties,such as your car...unless you let everybody in your neighbourhood using your car,or your home...
Why do you belligerently continue to beat that drum? There is a clear difference between data, which is easily reproduced at zero cost, and a physical good.
How so? He worked hard to earn the money to buy it. Isn't it a reason enough to enjoy his buy?
In nat's (and my) opinion, that is not adequate justification. Most of us here don't believe that copying the disc will ruin the value of the original, so Thibaut's justification is no more valid than saying it's to keep the sky from falling. Either way though, Thibaut keeping it to himself to protect its value is selfish, as the disc's value is important to him and him alone.
you beginning about Thibaut. On your SECOND post on this thread, you say: "I've no doubt that if nat had the inclination to buy one, he wouldn't hesitate to share it with others. Why? Because he's not a selfish scrooge. " What is that supposed to mean? That Thibaut is a selfish scrooge? since the whole thread is about him and his buying. Explain yourself..who were you pointing at/thinking of when you said that?
Nat is clearly the subject of the first sentence, so logically the 'he' in the second sentence refers to nat as well. I was also implying that Thibaut is acting selfishly by not sharing, which is 100% correct. The only reason that he has stated thus far for not sharing is to protect his investment. The CDR's perceived value unquestionably affects only Thibaut, so how is acting to preserve that value anything other than a selfish act? Remember, justifiable or not, it is still selfishness.
Too, if you're a lawyer as well, then you're one not knowing a damn thing about French law or other law systems over the world.That's a shame US doesn't learn other law systems in this world to their own lawyers. It could be useful.
Whether or not I'm a lawyer is irrelevant, but thanks for the condescension and disdain for all things of U.S. origin.
There is clearly a difference in assignation of blame. You can doubt it all the wya you want,that won't change facts. Read books,and see it by yourself. In France, the example given by someone else ,which was: normally illegal activity is excused in U.S. law is when it prevents a greater crime from being committed or in matters of self defense.
is COMPLETELY prohibited.Illegal activity cannot be excused under any circumstance,even that one.you'll be pursued for doing that.
And opposedly, if you get in a fight started by someone else who punched you first, the "excuse de provocation" can be used and generally the first one will be only punished, since the 2nd one only acted because the1st one provoked it.
That 'someone else' giving the example was me, chief. Apparently you don't know U.S. law as well as you think, as the example you gave of "excuse de provocation" also is a prime example of acting in self defense as defined by U.S. laws. So much for such actions being "COMPLETELY prohibited".
And now I truly am done with Adol's gorilla mist and circular logic. I see no point in repeating myself to someone that apparently still doesn't understand the word 'selfish' and is only interested in continuing a childish argument of 'he started it!'
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Arkhan on July 10, 2009, 06:21:06 AM
*quote Necromancer here*
Perfectly said. I agree. 100% correct. This should be the end of the thread for good. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
yknow it IS just a CD-R. If Thibby would share it ( :-({|=) we could all make copies. A CD-R that the public never sees or uses/experiences is worthless. Hoarding it actually decreases its value and worth if you think about it. It might as well not exist.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Thibaut on July 10, 2009, 06:32:36 AM
Arkhan :
"Whats he own thats one of a kind? Prove it. I doubt its one of a kind. The one of a kind stuff is sitting in a vault or at some NEC/Hudson/other developers house and you all dont even know about it. Nothing Thibaut owns is one of a kind. That kind of stuff doesnt just end up in the hands of some podunk french guy. I wont learn anything from a French forum really since I cant read / speak French. And if I could I doubt there is any new ground covered thats strictly French VIP"
And of course you´re so powerful you know all I have into my PC Engine collection...
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 10, 2009, 06:34:58 AM
A CD-R that the public never sees or uses/experiences is worthless. Hoarding it actually decreases its value and worth if you think about it. It might as well not exist.
That's a good point actually- which is why I PERSONALLY hate screenshots of items that no one intends to share- might as well be looking at vaporware- but hey that's just me.
I am following suit here as well- I'm done. If the French Connection wants to carry on further that's fine- I'm done wasting my time.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 10, 2009, 06:52:57 AM
Download all the free crap they can, and never return the favor. |/quote]
I think you just defined yourself and your buddies. Wanting everything for free,and not doing anything.
First, im only 21. ;) 20 years ago I wasn't doing much of anything. Being late for playing? Its never too late to game. Playing for only 1 hour? lol. Gaming is pretty much my life. And im not talking just video games here. tabletop too. I put 10+ hrs into games a day. But like I said, its not a competition really and Im glad you actually play stuff instead of amassing goods that never get used. comparing numbers is a waste of time. I never said anything about playing another system besides pce making you "less of a gamer". You're jumping to conclusions and putting words in my mouth.
OMG! #-o That all makes sense now. You're just a boy. You only became an adult that year!!! Congrats! You can now drink beer and shave your beard. I'm pretty sure you even have some pubic hairs by now. Congrats. I understand now, why you were so immature,and the only comments can make are insults. Sweet kid.
I don't, as it's in my best interest to keep my purchases to myself. Notice that that is the exact definition of selfishness.
That's where it differs in Europe. Using by yourself something you paid isn't considered selfishness in my country,but normal use. Your definition of selfishness is mistaken,or at least not worldwidely true. nobody would say you're selfish because you'll eat the sandwich you paid for, instead of giving it to the first hobo you met,like Sinistron for example.
Whether or not I'm a lawyer is irrelevant, but thanks for the condescension and disdain for all things of U.S. origin.
You're welcome. I could speak about your country's actions in Iraq, as well, which are worldwidely unpopular, such was your president . This complete defeat looked like Vietnam. But i think this is not the place to discuss this ^^ Nonetheless,i never said everything from USA wasn't good.
That 'someone else' giving the example was me, chief. Apparently you don't know U.S. law as well as you think, I'm not a specialist os U.S. law,and i don't give a shit about it. It doesn't apply where i work. What is for sure is that you don't know European/latin law at all.
as the example you gave of "excuse de provocation" also is a prime example of acting in self defense as defined by U.S. laws. So much for such actions being "COMPLETELY prohibited".
Légitime défense exist here as well (after all, France created the very first law codes ever, 200 years ago,right?),but the procedure can be quite different from US.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: nectarsis on July 10, 2009, 07:02:23 AM
So now only those that know multiple languages are "more intelligent" (as your english is far from perfect let's not even TRY to throw stones eh).
*I could speak about your country's actions in Iraq, as well, which are worldwidely unpopular, such was your president . This complete defeat looked like Vietnam.*
WOW one of the DUMBEST most ill informed comments I've seen in ages.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 10, 2009, 07:06:26 AM
So now only those that know multiple languages are "more intelligent" (as your english is far from perfect let's not even TRY to throw stones eh).
I'm betting $100 my english's better than your french. Deal? I'm writing in english the best i can. Apparently sufficiently enough for being understood (since i'mm ocked,at least i'm understood ahah) But making fun of Thibaut just like Sinistron did is totally lame. pointing out typo mistakes is worse. The guy has just no valid points,and express himself that way.
Let's just write french,and we'll probably get a greater laugh we're already having reading Sinistron's posts. Show how smart you are.
Besides, it's a common fact that knowing multiple languages can only contribute to your intelligence,and help in this worldwide society. What are you trying to demonstrate? It's obvious.
Golden Gala now boys, See ya.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Tatsujin on July 10, 2009, 07:06:41 AM
So now only those that know multiple languages are "more intelligent" (as your english is far from perfect let's not even TRY to throw stones eh).
I'm betting $100 my english's better than your french. Deal? I'm writing in english the best i can. Apparently sufficiently enough for being understood (since i'mm ocked,at least i'm understood ahah) But making fun of Thibaut just like Sinistron did is totally lame. pointing out typo mistakes is worse. The guy has just no valid points,and express himself that way.
Let's just write french,and we'll probably get a greater laugh we're already having reading Sinistron's posts. Show how smart you are.
Besides, it's a common fact that knowing multiple languages can only contribute to your intelligence,and help in this worldwide society. What are you trying to demonstrate? It's obvious.
Golden Gala now boys, See ya.
Yet I'm not making ridiculous claims of multiple language knowledge being superior. Useful around the world yes, makes you a "bigger/better" person..hardly.
P.S. Knowledge and intelligence are 2 VERY different things.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Arkhan on July 10, 2009, 07:10:32 AM
**I had to fix your quote setup, since you dont know how to do it apparently. (Good thing you tried making me look stupid for not using Quote!)
Then LEARN it. Learn japanese as well. It'll make you look more intelligent,and it's a really easy task.
I can read/speak Spanish, and Japanese..... I already said I can about Japanese....
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I think you just defined yourself and your buddies. Wanting everything for free,and not doing anything.
Not doing anything ? Dude I have a ton of PCE stuff seeding on some torrent sites for people. Not to mention another user here has sent free games to people.....
also... not doing anything? You see that big banner in my signature? It links to the PCE game Ive been working on that was originally to be a C64 game. So... not doing anything is a bit false here.
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OMG! #-o That all makes sense now. You're just a boy. You only became an adult that year!!! Congrats! You can now drink beer and shave your beard. I'm pretty sure you even have some pubic hairs by now. Congrats. I understand now, why you were so immature,and the only comments can make are insults. Sweet kid.
You insult my age and maturity yet you act like a kid in highschool. My "insults" hold water in terms of the topic at hand. they have nothing to do with pubic hair, beard shaving, or any of that. You haven't denied or refuted anything I have said. Probably since you cant.
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No. Members here,called another member a "selfish scrooge". Those are the facts that started it all.
Selfish scrooge. Truth hurts.
Selfish: Wont share (Thibaut did that pretty good) scrooge: rains on everyones parade (Thibaut did this also!)
I think it fits.
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Then come. Prove it.
Waste of time. Wont accomplish anything. Im sure you will now feel extremely tough because your empty threat and demand that someone on the INTERNET come to your house OVERSEAS to prove something STUPID, has declined.
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You were just kicked out out of that scene, don't try to justify yourself ^^ The little boy got kicked out.
the forum retro-link.com was started by another long standing C= member and a few friends who also got fed up. I was asked to help found it, and I did. So yeah, I sure was kicked out. Denial Vic-20 just recently had a bunch of a$$hole moderators de-modded due to their BS. One guy sold all his stuff. Another just threw stuff out and left. (Hes posted here once or twice) I left it all. im not banned. I can still post, go into IRC chats, and receive homestead mailing list crap from the C= community. I just attended a local C= convention, and posted recently anyways. Think I was kicked out all you want. It wont make it right, and you saying it again and again makes you look like an immature, clueless dope. you have no real argument so you resort to petty, obnoxious "YOU WERE KICKED OUT HAHAHA YOURE A LITTLE BOY LOL YOU GOT KICKED OUT" crap. Smooooooth. Do you put thumbtacks on peoples chairs in your court while youre playing Lawyer with the real grown ups?
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Oh, that's right. you can't even understand another language than your native. Sorry for you :(
Oh thats right, I already said previously that I can. Two languages. A bit of some others too. (Serbian/German/an ounce of dutch)
Adol, if all you are going to do is throw up empty insults and make yourself look dumber and dumber with every post, Just leave. You aren't doing anything positive for PCEFX.com and all you're doing is pissing people off and making us have to post all these lengthy tolstoy-like responses just to expose your shenanigans.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Adol2009 on July 10, 2009, 07:33:47 AM
Adol, if all you are going to do is throw up empty insults and make yourself look dumber and dumber with every post, we already have Sinistron & myself for that.
Fixed.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Sinistron on July 10, 2009, 08:13:19 AM
Yeah- I was supposedly done or something. Whatever.
Besides, it's a common fact that knowing multiple languages can only contribute to your intelligence
Is it really a common fact, Xamot? Seems pretty logical that you can get deeper into thought being highly proficient in one language as opposed to being subpar in several. Besides- if it's intelligence you've been aiming for- you've failed miserably. Note that I'm not knocking those who learn Japanese to understand PCE RPGs or anything- but I'm knocking you- you who act as if "learning" all of these languages makes you some sort of supreme demigod of thought. The fact is that most complicated English phrases and words will fly directly over your head- and in order to really get through to you it has to be partially dumbed down- in your case even that doesn't help however as your brain itself seems broken.
Speaking of broken- you're like a broken record repeatedly trying to say I was mocking this guy's busted English when I was really asking for clarification because I hadn't the slightest damn clue what he was trying to relay.
As for the "hobo" nonsense- I'm far from it- but if you give a fool enough rope he'll eventually hang himself- as we see as your posts take loftier and loftier airs dense with elitism and inflated ego. Constant name-dropping, worldwide athletic feats, boasts of being a lawyer and a video game maven by the age of 5, telling me I'm envious of your collection- suggesting you and Tomax are better video game players than I'll ever be (BULLSHIT), carrying on about how incredibly smart you are because you speak several languages- etc., etc., and now calling me a hobo as if my monetary means (other than my not being able to spend THOUSANDS on prototypes- the POOR BASTARD that I am) ever came into question. With each post you come out clearer and clearer as the snobbish elitist clown that you are- but you still don't have PC Cocoron- so I'm not impressed- and the collection isn't even YOURS. You SHARE it supposedly- (and your clears, and your thoughts, and your screennames- everything BUT the PCEDaisakusen password- go figure) meaning that the listed collection belonging to a single account name isn't even legit- it's all hogwash. If you truly SHARE it- then only roughly half of those games are yours- knocking you down quite a few pegs on the list- and who even believes if you actually own all the games on your list now anyway? I wouldn't be surprised if you snapped photos of some guy's store stock and passed it off as Wonder Twins holdings. You're a crock- and even if all you say is true then the collection still only stands as half yours. Not impressive anymore. Your status is lowered and that's why you're REALLY still here- trying as hard as you can to reclaim it- sorry Chap-o, only thing you're laying claim to currently is jokiest forum doof of the year. And you telling Arkhan to come to France to get face to face if he dares is a hilarious joke. PM me next time you do a NY Times sponsored miracle mile in NYC and I'll tell you where to meet me- and I'll slap both you and Tomax silly and leave enough ringmarks on your faces to make you both look like Seal. What a tough guy you are.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: blueraven on July 10, 2009, 08:19:35 AM
The Emperor's new clothes sure look wonderful.
This is pathetic. Aren't you supposed to be a respectable adult with a masters degree in law? (Jurisprudence)
Is this is how you argue your points?
----- Adol2009 ----- "OMG! d'oh! That all makes sense now. You're just a boy. You only became an adult that year!!! Congrats! You can now drink beer and shave your beard. I'm pretty sure you even have some pubic hairs by now. Congrats. I understand now, why you were so immature,and the only comments can make are insults. Sweet kid." ----- -----
This is incongruous; a total non-sequitor, and furthermore a tasteless and blatant insult. You are a legal adult at age 18 in the US. By saying that Arkhan just became an adult last year is simply incorrect for extrapolations sake. He's been enjoying the full benefits of the US Constitution for four years, despite only being able to consume alcohol for >2. If you want to use hyperbole to push your points, please do it somewhere else.
And in an unrelated topic; this could easily be interpreted as an empty threat:
"Yeah, you can come here, telling me what you think face to face. I'm waiting you ahah. I'll love to hear it with my own ears. Come if you dare."
Someone please lock this thread.
You mentioned Latin...
RES IPSA LOQUITOR
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Arkhan on July 10, 2009, 08:53:30 AM
And of course you´re so powerful you know all I have into my PC Engine collection...
and of course, you still do not put your money where your mouth is and show us these OMG RARE one of a kind items. Where are they?
Adol2009 (btw, what a disgrace to the name Adol. Hes a hero, youre a zero. woooo): Nice quote edit. That really bolsters your "mature" presence. Thats sarcasm btw. What it really does is make you look like an even bigger fool.
So, I really think the banhammer should come down, and the lockage.
unless of course thibby wants to post his OMGRAER items , or an ISO to his one of a kind CD-R.
Title: Re: Holy Jebus!
Post by: Pcenginefx on July 10, 2009, 09:24:22 AM
This thread is locked. I am GREATLY disappointed with everyone involved from the forum about this topic which should have been 15 pages of discussion about this rare auction - NOT a flame war with fellow collectors from overseas.
We all should be mature enough to have civil discussions with one another without turning every damn topic into a war. If you feel like you just have to make a rash or rude comment that could start a unnecessary war then don't post. I don't ask for much so this should be a very simple request to handle by everyone.