Author Topic: A CD Drive to Make Backups?  (Read 843 times)

Vimtoman

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 380
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2016, 02:41:35 AM »
I've tried pretty much every combination of burn speeds and CDR types and found that it's really finding a happy medium.
If it burns and works stick with it.

tbone3969

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 792
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2016, 03:04:31 AM »
What the hell is XAK3 in English...  I wanna play it.

My first PCE fan translation project. Also the first PCE translation of a CD RPG.

http://xak3.ysutopia.net/


Thanks once again Nightwolve.  I have been using your TurboRip program a ton.  Whats your PayPal so I can donate to you.  You do great work.
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

ginoscope

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 360
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2016, 04:26:16 AM »
What the hell is XAK3 in English...  I wanna play it.

My first PCE fan translation project. Also the first PCE translation of a CD RPG.

http://xak3.ysutopia.net/


Thanks once again Nightwolve.  I have been using your TurboRip program a ton.  Whats your PayPal so I can donate to you.  You do great work.


http://www.ysutopia.net/index.php

There is a donate button on his page.  It's a good deed to donate to our translators and programmers.  I also played a lot of the Ys games on the PC that nightwolve translated so much appreciated.

As a developer by trade myself I really should find the time to look into PCE development.  There are so many games that have not been translated.

Going back on topic I use a benq drive externally on my mac using burn.  Burn is basically img burn on the mac.  I have had no issues making backups.  You just have to know what media the duo will read.  My duo does not like that blue cd-r crap from Sony. 

mj9123456

  • Guest
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2016, 01:45:34 AM »
I have some games ripped in CCD/IMG/SUB format. Every time I try to burn them using ImgBurn, I get the same error message: "Close Track Failed!  Device: [0:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW.....   Reason: Invalid Field in CDB." Any ideas why? I've read that ImgBurn can do these types of files. Thanks.

jperryss

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1176
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2016, 10:27:54 AM »
What the hell is XAK3 in English and where to I get the image file.  I wanna play it.

Try google.

Asking for ISOs is a bannable offense.

How is that any worse than a 50+ page thread selling/giving away bootleg discs?

Bernie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4271
    • Facebook URL
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2016, 12:24:28 PM »

What the hell is XAK3 in English and where to I get the image file.  I wanna play it.

Try google.

Asking for ISOs is a bannable offense.

How is that any worse than a 50+ page thread selling/giving away bootleg discs?
Not a fan of our repros?  :(


Sent from my iPhone using your mama

Keith Courage

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2694
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2016, 02:36:11 PM »
I have some games ripped in CCD/IMG/SUB format. Every time I try to burn them using ImgBurn, I get the same error message: "Close Track Failed!  Device: [0:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW.....   Reason: Invalid Field in CDB." Any ideas why? I've read that ImgBurn can do these types of files. Thanks.

IMG burn won't work with some of those depending on how they were originally ripped.  Alcohol 120% would be the way to go on those. 

Necromancer

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 21370
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2016, 02:00:09 AM »
How is that any worse than a 50+ page thread selling/giving away bootleg discs?

Because isps and hosting services have a legal requirement to curtail illegal downloads but don't have a crusade against physical bootlegs.

Take it up with Aaron if you have a problem with it.
U.S. Collection: 98% complete    157/161 titles

jperryss

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1176
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2016, 09:58:41 AM »
Not a fan of our repros?  :(

Of course I am! Just thought it was odd to call that out.

NightWolve

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5277
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2016, 06:15:31 AM »
I have some games ripped in CCD/IMG/SUB format. Every time I try to burn them using ImgBurn, I get the same error message: "Close Track Failed!  Device: [0:0:0] Optiarc DVD RW.....   Reason: Invalid Field in CDB." Any ideas why? I've read that ImgBurn can do these types of files. Thanks.

That error indicates an improper SCSI command packet was sent to the DVD drive and the drive's BIOS (essentially) rejected it.

Possible reasons:

1) ImgBurn is producing bad SCSI command packets when it comes to Clone CD images because not enough research/reverse-engineering was done by ImgBurn's creator to fully understand the format.

2) Whatever software was used to produce the Clone CD image, did so improperly and maybe it's not ImgBurn's fault, it simply reacts badly to some issue in the image control CCD file, fails to compensate and so an error results.

People mostly don't use Clone CD to produce or burn such images. They're using the copycat freeware freebies, so they'll never be as good as Clone CD in handling its own format in the best fashion.

You could install CloneCD itself, run it on trial to get those burned, see if no error results. Or as Keith indicated, try Alcohol. Is there a burning version that's free ? Don't think so...
 
But yeah, I would really doubt it was the drive's fault. The drive is simply telling you that the SCSI command packet that ImgBurn sent it was not properly set up. So either ImgBurn screwed up, or the image is kind of screwy and was not properly compensated for.

"Reason: Invalid Field in CDB" - CDB = Command Descriptor Block. The more modern terminology the MMC (SCSI-3) group adopted later is "command packet" which is a bit more human understandable.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2016, 06:40:55 AM by NightWolve »

mj9123456

  • Guest
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2016, 06:20:16 AM »
Thanks a lot for your input.

NightWolve

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5277
Re: A CD Drive to Make Backups?
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2016, 10:38:44 AM »
What the hell is XAK3 in English...  I wanna play it.
My first PCE fan translation project. Also the first PCE translation of a CD RPG.

http://xak3.ysutopia.net/
Thanks once again Nightwolve.  I have been using your TurboRip program a ton.  Whats your PayPal so I can donate to you.  You do great work.

Oh right, wanted to mention, tbone did actually donate, so thanks! I never believe when claims are made that someone is going to donate in a thread because they would've already done it if they wanted... A % don't, they say so for PR I guess and then don't bother.

Thanks a lot for your input.

No problem. The other free idea is simple enough too, if you mount the CCD image with a virtual CD emulator (Alcohol52% freeware/Daemon Tools/etc), you can rip it to BIN/CUE and then burn that.

In other words, convert the CD image to another more common format. Clone CD is mostly unnecessary unless you have an advanced copy protection scheme found on some PC discs or for CD+G/Karaoke discs.

Most retro CD games likes SegaCD, PC Engine, NeoGeo, etc. have no protections and are fine and smaller with BIN/CUE. ISO/WAV/CUE what TurboRip defaults to is the best of course because you can then use specialized audio compression (FLAC/APE or go lossy if you don't care) on the waves and really compress the results. And with the data tracks separate and consistently sized in cooked mode (just pure data, no CD needed info like flagging, EDC/ECC stuff which the burning software regenerates), patching for fan translations is easier. It's also easier to simply replace a Japanese wave file with an English one if you ever try for a dub.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2016, 11:19:47 AM by NightWolve »