Author Topic: Sega Brings back Wonder Boy on Jap PS2 (Read 1179 times)

FM-77 · « **Reply #30 on:** September 24, 2006, 01:40:45 AM »

Quote from: "Keranu"

Lots of good posts in this thread. Since I'm too lazy to go back and make a indepth thread, I would just like to comment that there are tons of games I love on the Turbo, whether they be great classics like Ys, or mega cheese like It Came From the Desert, it had nothing to do with nostalgia for me because I was never near a Turbo Grafx 16 growing up. Now games like Insector X for Genesis was for nostalgic for me and people who talk to me online know I have a deep nostalgic passion for that game and have had to defend my liking for it many times . Go here for more info .

Yeah but you love crappy games don't you?

(As do I, might I add.)

I'd also like to say that I don't play a lot of modern games. I (mostly) don't compare old games to new ones, either. But seriously: If you compare an old (original) game to a new (original) game, it is pretty interesting to see how much things have evolved, and how bad the older games generally were.

MotherGunner · « **Reply #31 on:** September 26, 2006, 05:28:47 AM »

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3877&Itemid=2&limit=1&limitstart=2

Black Tiger · « **Reply #32 on:** September 26, 2006, 06:48:52 AM »

Quote from: "MotherGunner"

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3877&Itemid=2&limit=1&limitstart=2

Awesome man, I was really hoping that Monster World IV would make it in. And it looks like it'll be worthwhile to buy since it supports 480p, -but it had better not filter the graphics(I'm still worried about Capcom Classic Col Vol 2 after what happened to Vol 1) without an option to turn it off.

I like how the author of the preview went on about MWI, but was really talking about two different games.

FM-77 · « **Reply #33 on:** September 26, 2006, 07:45:11 AM »

He he, that guy claims Hudson developed Wonder Boy.

Ever heard of Escape/Westone?

Also - he claims Monster World IV got released in North America as Wonder Boy VI. Another lie!

Black Tiger · « **Reply #34 on:** September 26, 2006, 08:00:10 AM »

Quote from: "Seldane"

He he, that guy claims Hudson developed Wonder Boy. Ever heard of Escape/Westone?

Also - he claims Monster World IV got released in North America as Wonder Boy VI. Another lie!

To be fair, he did say "the first Wonder Boy was (kind of) developed by Hudson".

And it sounds like he, like most regular casual gamers, simply has never heard of MWIV and assumes that it must be the game in his mind(MWIII) that came out on Genesis as WBV... which he goes on to call WBVI.

Which is understandable, since the series' family tree and title naming is so convoluted(Adventure Island = Wonderboy 1 as well as Wonderboy 3).

I started work on a easy to follow Wonderboy family tree graphic, but never finished. Maybe I'll try finishing it off today.

I hope that the collection includes MWIII for Sega
Master System, a game that many people familiar with MWIV have never heard off.

MotherGunner · « **Reply #35 on:** September 26, 2006, 09:37:42 AM »

Now if only they re-released Dynastic Hero.

Black Tiger · « **Reply #36 on:** September 26, 2006, 09:43:43 AM »

Quote from: "MotherGunner"

Now if only they re-released Dynastic Hero.

It would be cool to get a multi-language WB-alias collection or at the very least, all the PC Engine titles in one package.

FM-77 · « **Reply #37 on:** September 26, 2006, 10:13:20 AM »

Monster World III was released on both Mega Drive as well. It is the same game as the Master System version, but with better graphics.

Also, I still can't accept his "almost developed" by Hudson remark, as it is completely and utterly untrue. Hudson ported the game to Famicom, but that is all. They had nothing to do with the original game.

MotherGunner · « **Reply #38 on:** September 26, 2006, 10:29:39 AM »

Yeah I also wouldn't mind seeing Dragon's Curse redone.

guyjin · « **Reply #39 on:** September 26, 2006, 01:09:07 PM »

Was the SMS Wonder boy 3 ever ported to the PCE? I thought it was (on CD even!) but the gameplay video I've seen doesn't look like Dragon's trap.

[edit]: Imadumas. Confusingly, it's called Adventure Island on PCE. My head hurts; please work on that chart thingamabob.

td741 · « **Reply #40 on:** September 27, 2006, 02:11:18 AM »

Quote from: "guyjin"

Was the SMS Wonder boy 3 ever ported to the PCE? I thought it was (on CD even!) but the gameplay video I've seen doesn't look like Dragon's trap.

You want Dragon's Curse (at least released on the TG-16 on HuCard/TurboChip). The PCE version has a different name. Although I only own Dragon's Trap on SMS so I can 100% confirm.

Wonder Boy III on CD was the sort of shooting game. I remember seeing that version of "Wonder Boy III" in the arcades, it might have had the same name.

Yay, confusing names.

FM-77 · « **Reply #41 on:** September 27, 2006, 04:26:36 AM »

Wonder Boy III is a platformer/shooter hybrid. It was released on both Mega Drive and PC Engine. There is no Wonder Boy 2.

Contrary to popular belief, the Monster World games are not related to Wonder Boy OR Adventure Island. They share some similiarities design-wise (level design and graphics) and they were developed by the same company (Westone) but that is about it. Some (idiot) decided to name all the games Wonder Boy when they got released outside of Japan. Just because, you know, cause some confusion.

These are all the Monster World games and what they got released as outside of Japan:

Monster World
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy in Monster Land
PC Engine - Bikkuriman World (never released outside of Japan)
(I believe this game got released on various other crap systems not worth mentioning.)

Monster World II
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap
PC Engine - Dragon's Curse

Monster World III
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy in Monster World
Sega Mega Drive - Wonder Boy in Monster World
PC Engine - The Dynastic Hero

Monster World IV
Sega Mega Drive - Monster World IV (never released outside of Japan)

Monster World III and IV (MD versions, of course) got released on seperate CD-ROMs for Windows a few years ago. These are not remakes or anything but just emulated versions of the games. They got delivered in regular jewel cases. Westone went bankrupt a couple of years ago. Big surprise.

Black Tiger · « **Reply #42 on:** September 27, 2006, 06:26:08 AM »

Quote from: "Seldane"

Wonder Boy III is a platformer/shooter hybrid. It was released on both Mega Drive and PC Engine. There is no Wonder Boy 2.

Contrary to popular belief, the Monster World games are not related to Wonder Boy OR Adventure Island. They share some similiarities design-wise (level design and graphics) and they were developed by the same company (Westone) but that is about it. Some (idiot) decided to name all the games Wonder Boy when they got released outside of Japan. Just because, you know, cause some confusion.

Well, I own the Sega Mark III version of the original Monster World, and some (japanese) idiot decided to label it Super Wonderboy Monster World, just like all the english versions which kept the Wonderboy monicker.

Plus, it clearly says Wonder Boy across the title screen of the original Monster Land.

And the japanese version of Monster World III actually establishes the numerical value of the Wonderboy sequals(after two III's)-

And although it's obvious that Wonderboy has different gameplay than Monster World, they are part of the same series, which is why there are Wonderboy refferences and nods throughout the Monster World games.

The main one that ties them together is the jesus'y ultimate weapon from the 'legendary warrior' (or whatever) in MWIII/WBV which is the crude tomahawk from Wonderboy.

And the hero and heroine from Dynastic Hero were clearly designed as throwbacks to the main characters Wonderboy III. And the last boss in Wonderboy III is the main character from Monster Land/World.

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These are all the Monster World games and what they got released as outside of Japan:

Monster World
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy in Monster Land
PC Engine - Bikkuriman World (never released outside of Japan)
(I believe this game got released on various other crap systems not worth mentioning.)

Monster World II
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap
PC Engine - Dragon's Curse

Monster World III
Sega Master System - Wonder Boy in Monster World
Sega Mega Drive - Wonder Boy in Monster World
PC Engine - The Dynastic Hero

Monster World IV
Sega Mega Drive - Monster World IV (never released outside of Japan)

Monster World III and IV (MD versions, of course) got released on seperate CD-ROMs for Windows a few years ago. These are not remakes or anything but just emulated versions of the games. They got delivered in regular jewel cases. Westone went bankrupt a couple of years ago. Big surprise.

Monster World II was also released for Game Gear (a platform worth mentioning) and the graphics were resized. I haven't played through it to see if anything else was changed(it does have a cool title screen though). I don't know if this game was ever released for Sega Mark III, since I can't find a rom for it, but I Turma da Monica and WBIII SMS use FM music.