More Opinions Please!

[spenoza]

Thats why I like threads like these, you get to see other people's point of view and remember little things that you liked or disliked.

The enemies dragging toward you was annoying

That's why you never turn your back on an enemy before he's started to move from the hit. I remember being careless quite often. Throw off a wand shot and turn around to do something and because I'm facing away when the enemy gets hit by the wand attack he comes flying at my now unguarded behind.

[Arkhan]

order of the griffon to me is the best US only release.  I wish you could roll your own party, but other than that minor setback, its a perfect AD&D game, worthy of GoldBox status.

Its also the best non computer release of an AD&D game.  It holds true to the original games better than the rest do.

Pool of Derpiance on NES was janky, Eye of the Beholder for SNES had annoying frigging music, and Warriors of the Eternal Sun just wasn't the same!

[spenoza]

order of the griffon to me is the best US only release.  I wish you could roll your own party, but other than that minor setback, its a perfect AD&D game, worthy of GoldBox status.

Its also the best non computer release of an AD&D game.  It holds true to the original games better than the rest do.

Pool of Derpiance on NES was janky, Eye of the Beholder for SNES had annoying frigging music, and Warriors of the Eternal Sun just wasn't the same!

It is the non-PC title which is closest to the Gold Box games in style, but I don't know that I would consider it quite up to the quality of the other Gold Box titles. I suspect it uses a custom engine meant to approximate the original Gold Box engine. Still, it was a nice game, if you could tolerate a few minor quirks.

[Arkhan]

I think most of its because they wanted it to be a bit accessible to people who were looking for a more quick pickup game.  They probably underestimated the fact that dorks wanted to roll up their characters from scratch, lol.

Its got a more fast pace as far as getting up and going.

[Mathius]

I really need to actually finish Neutopia 1!

Now that I have read these opinions on Neutopia 2 I am going to try to find a good deal on it.

[spenoza]

I think most of its because they wanted it to be a bit accessible to people who were looking for a more quick pickup game.  They probably underestimated the fact that dorks wanted to roll up their characters from scratch, lol.

Its got a more fast pace as far as getting up and going.

I suspect the real reason is that there's no way you could encapsulate that many player-created characters in a password system, and requiring save capabilities for advancement is just not a winning strategy for selling games on the TG.

[vestcoat]

I suspect the real reason is that there's no way you could encapsulate that many player-created characters in a password system, and requiring save capabilities for advancement is just not a winning strategy for selling games on the TG.

Makes sense.  IIRC, Swords and Serpents has some insane password system, where you need a password for your game, plus one for each character, and you also have to remember what you named each character or the passwords don't work.  lol.

[Arkhan]

Maybe, but I don't think the password system would really have been too brutal, all things considered...

The 5 passwords IN Swords and Serpents aren't really that bad.  Combined, all 5 passwords is about as bad as any NES password.

Better even.  Kid Icarus had that goony font and Upper/Lower.  IIRC, S&S was all uppercase, lol

[spenoza]

Maybe, but I don't think the password system would really have been too brutal, all things considered...

The 5 passwords IN Swords and Serpents aren't really that bad.  Combined, all 5 passwords is about as bad as any NES password.

Better even.  Kid Icarus had that goony font and Upper/Lower.  IIRC, S&S was all uppercase, lol

I'm sure that the S&S passwords did turn off a number of players, however, even if they did make renting the game in bits over time more friendly. I really just wish Hudson/NEC had invested a little energy in designing HuCards with save capabilities. It is stupid that they did not.

[thrush]

Well, I at least am sold on OotG.  The Goldboxes are legendary; even "almost as good" must still be pretty darn good.  I do like it when I can customise a character all kinds, but there is something to be said for working with a limited palette, too.

I think passwords are the only thing from the old days that I don't miss!

I really need to actually finish Neutopia 1!

I support that initiative!