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« on: April 11, 2006, 09:06:52 PM »
I watched Macross II Movie (DVD) and I must say it was a fantastic film, a true masterpiece!

Here are my thoughts and feelings about the film.

It featured everything a self respecting Anime should deliver.
Awesome animation, epic intergalactic battles, a dramatic / sad story line / plot and a fantastic sound track.

The voice acting in both the US & Japanese versions were very well performed, but my favorite factor in the film was its music.

When Hibiki takes Ishtar to the Moon festival and they listen to Wendy’s Love Song for the first time, with all the fans cheering inside the amphitheatre under the glass dome and the flagship Gloria in orbit, was my favorite moment by far!
I love Lady Ishtar’s ecstatic expressions of joy and happiness. She then reveals her wish to Hibiki, which was to sing the song of love to her own people and bring them peace.

Later on, another very dramatic and shocking moment was when Ishtar starts singing the song of love at the Alus Nova chamber inside the alien flagship, (Sarride) bringing confusion to the Zendraedi soldiers. The outraged Emperor then orders the executioner death ship to cleanse the polluted flagship by blasting it with its laser beams.

Lord Feff and Lady Ishtar, manage to fly out of the doomed flagship inside a battle Mech, just in the brink of time!
As they watch the large nuclear explosion of the Sarride from afar, Ishtar cries for the loss of lady Elensh, but Lord Feff replies:

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“Behold, Ishtar…This is the will of Ingues, lord emperor of the Mardook. And this is the result of what you have done!”


The order given by the Emperor to his soldiers is equally dramatic (And very Japanese in style if I may say so)

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"Soldiers sworn to the Mardook discipline… In the name of our culture, crush these arrogant vermin!
In this universe nothing exists which can overpower us!
Therefore, resisting our conquest is impossible.
In the name of the Mardook, destroy!"


The final battle between the U.N Spacey forces and the Mardook fleet is one of the best in any Macross / Robotech film.
The music used for the battle scene is just perfect, as you watch the ships mobilizing for the imminent battle to come!
The two huge fleets engage in a devastating clash, in close proximity to the moon’s orbit.
At first impression, it would seem that the earth’s fleet gains the upper hand by wiping out 60% of the Mardook fleet in a single blow after using four Macross cannons, but all of a sudden, a huge wave of enemy ships de-folds and begins hammering the outnumbered earth fleet with a devastating laser storm!
The entire fleet, the Macross Cannons & the Gloria Flagship it self are destroyed!

What’s interesting is that the Earth side fleets, in all the battles that take place in the film; consist almost primarily of old Zendraedi style battle cruisers also seen in the older Macross DYRL film & the Robotech series.

An apocalyptic dialogue that reveals the true feelings of Lord Feff for Lady Ishtar, takes place at the hangar of the Mardook command ship.
Lord Feff releases Ishtar, but before she leaves, he tells her:

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"I know no other life but one of a proud Mardook soldier, in service to lord Emperor Ingues.
I will only cease fighting at my death.
Ishtar you must leave now before I regain my senses.
And remember what is my sworn duty. To the Mardook you died by my hand.
No one will know my failure that I dare to love above my people."


Finally, at the earth’s siege, in the last decisive battle over the scourged earth landscape, Ishtar sings the song of hope and sends to everyone the gentleness of her own heart and saves her people from the dictator.

I find Wendy Ryder’s love song (Japanese) (At the Moon festival) better than Minmay’s “Do you Remember Love” song from Macross DYRL and superior to the English translated version “We Will Win” song, from Harmony’s Gold Robotech series imo.
Same goes for “The Hush of Two Hundred Million Years” intro song (Japanese) compared to Macross DYRL & Robotech intros imo.

Overall, Macross II is definitely one of the best Anime films and should be placed in the hall of all time classics!


Lady Ishtar


Macross VF:


Lord Feff and Lady Ishtar at the Hangar:


Lord Emperor Ingues


Lady Ishtar Concept Art.


SDF-1 Fortress


A few nice Wallpapers / Flyers:

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2453/ishtari4wo.jpg
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2006, 07:24:12 AM »
I am still patiently waiting for Macross: Do You Remember Love to come out on DvD. THAT was awesome.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2006, 05:31:47 PM »
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I am still patiently waiting for Macross: Do You Remember Love to come out on DvD. THAT was awesome.

You can get that on a R2 DVD if ya want.

Macross DYRL will never be release on R1 DVD. Becuse those f*cking a$$holes at, Harmory Gold won't let it happen since.. they think it will  mess up the, Robotech timeline :evil:

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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2006, 07:43:50 AM »
Yeah but I want it with english subtitles :(
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2006, 09:29:22 AM »
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I am still patiently waiting for Macross: Do You Remember Love to come out on DvD. THAT was awesome.

You can get that on a R2 DVD if ya want.

Macross DYRL will never be release on R1 DVD. Becuse those f*cking a$$holes at, Harmory Gold won't let it happen since.. they think it will  mess up the, Robotech timeline :evil:


I thought DYRL was just a few episodes of Robotech spliced together? Is it original material?

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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2006, 04:41:07 PM »
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I am still patiently waiting for Macross: Do You Remember Love to come out on DvD. THAT was awesome.

You can get that on a R2 DVD if ya want.

Macross DYRL will never be release on R1 DVD. Becuse those f*cking a$$holes at, Harmory Gold won't let it happen since.. they think it will  mess up the, Robotech timeline :evil:


I thought DYRL was just a few episodes of Robotech spliced together? Is it original material?

It's original material pretty much it has the same story as the tv serise.

Here's a sceen at the end of the movie

This movie is a such a classic  8) Heck i like  the mech desgin more in this one then the tv serise  :clap:

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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2006, 04:43:41 PM »
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Yeah but I want it with english subtitles :(

So do i there have been fansub of it in the past.

Same go's for Macross Zero and Macross 7.

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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2006, 05:54:30 AM »
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Yeah but I want it with english subtitles :(

So do i there have been fansub of it in the past.

Same go's for Macross Zero and Macross 7.


I have a proper sub that was released in the UK on VHS, so at least I have something.
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2006, 03:43:31 PM »
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Yeah but I want it with english subtitles :(

So do i there have been fansub of it in the past.

Same go's for Macross Zero and Macross 7.


I have a proper sub that was released in the UK on VHS, so at least I have something.

I have a dub of it on VHS.

Still the dubbing is so bad it... makes you think your watching a kung fu flick  :P

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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2006, 06:29:23 AM »
Was the sub ever released in the US? Over here we had both the sub and the dub version released on VHS (the dub under the title 'Clash of the Bionoids')
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2006, 08:22:17 PM »
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Was the sub ever released in the US? Over here we had both the sub and the dub version released on VHS (the dub under the title 'Clash of the Bionoids')

Just dub under the title of Clash of the Bionoids.

Then release again on, Vhs through a different company with it's original title.

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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2006, 02:57:22 PM »
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Macross DYRL will never be release on R1 DVD. Becuse those f*cking a$$holes at, Harmory Gold won't let it happen since.. they think it will mess up the, Robotech timeline

That's not the case anymore.  ADV films has already released Macross, Genesis Climber Mospeada and Southern Cross uncut with backing from Harmony Gold.

It's not that Harmony Gold doesn't want to release Macross II uncut, they just want to be the sole owners of the property here in the U.S.

Sorry, but I don't see your library card on the books of Ys.  Now, RETURN THEM TO ME!!!

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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2006, 06:04:29 PM »
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Macross DYRL will never be release on R1 DVD. Becuse those f*cking a$$holes at, Harmory Gold won't let it happen since.. they think it will mess up the, Robotech timeline

That's not the case anymore.  ADV films has already released Macross, Genesis Climber Mospeada and Southern Cross uncut with backing from Harmony Gold.

It's not that Harmony Gold doesn't want to release Macross II uncut, they just want to be the sole owners of the property here in the U.S.

Ture but you will never see, Macross Do You Remember Love on a R1 dvd.

Btw what does this have to do with Macross II? It doesn't matter to me if it's uncut or not.

As for the, TV serise being uncut, Animeigo release it frist uncut then.... adv got there shot afther animeigo lincense ran out.

Still long as hamory gold controlls it,it's up them what related macross serise are given a domestic release.

Meaning as i mention befor no, Macross Zero,Macross DYRL or Macross 7 in the U.S unless it's aprove by Harmory Gold those greedy pigs  :evil:

Btw i have macross tv serise release by animeigo on dvd nice sets too.

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