Author Topic: Information about the TG-CD's 11VDC power supply.  (Read 795 times)

MasonSushi

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Re: Information about the TG-CD's 11VDC power supply.
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2009, 07:22:42 AM »
Today we picked up a Cat. No. 273-1775 AC adapter from Radio Shack (12V, 1.5A). This is closer to the spec of the original adapter. The "N" type barrel is indeed correct, that's the type I picked up and it fits the core unit, the base, and the detachable drive perfectly, no wobbling. Again though, no power to the base...I really think it's broken.

Anyone got an extra gamebit they're willing to sell me? :D



Do we know if this works? I need a replacement power cord for my TG-16 w/ CD unit.

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Re: Information about the TG-CD's 11VDC power supply.
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2009, 11:40:12 AM »
One thing no one seems to be aware of:  It is correct when a "wall wart"  type power supply says 7 volts (or whatever) and it measures 12V, or 15V, or whatever.  Wall wart type power supplies are basically just a transformer, no regulator (AC output) or transformer with minimum regulation (DC output), both of which occur at the maximum current as listed on the power supply.

That is, a supply that measures, for example 12V (AC or DC, not important) when just plugged into the wall and not connected to the game system, simply tells you what the transformer is capable of producing without a load (no current being supplied).  Connect it to the intended game system, however, and the load provided by that game system loads the transformer down to it normal operational output.  So what you need to look for is a wall wart that will provide the desired output voltage at the desired current (or, at least close), and let the un-loaded value fall where it may (within reason).  In fact, the higher the unloaded voltage, the higher the value of current that power supply will have available at any given lower voltage.  However, you must also be aware that the higher that voltage is, the more damage it can do to the game system when the game system malfunctions.

Generally, the average user doesn't know or care about this, he just expects to go to Radio Shack and get whatever wall wart supplies the numbers close to his needs.  In some cases, you can even use one of the RS switch-selectable units that normally provides a slightly lower current, and set it to the next higher voltage value.  The higher voltage gets pulled down to the desired lower voltage, while supplying the small extra bit of current necessary to meet the original need.

Just an FYI.

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Re: Information about the TG-CD's 11VDC power supply.
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2009, 07:47:15 AM »
The folks here talking about measuring 15v on the TGCD power supply, is that while the power supply is operating the TGCD?  My understanding is that the voltage gets pulled down somewhat when a load is put on the older AC adapters?  To really test it you'll need to either strip a chunk of the cable or have the cover off the unit so you have somewhere to attach the leads while running the TGCD unit.

The newer switching adapters (which are a LOT smaller and a generally more efficient) are better at keeping the voltage constant across a changing load.

For what it's worth, I've swapped out all of my adapters on all of my older consoles for newer switching type adapters.  I was getting sick of having to plug and unplug the power adapters every time I wanted to play because those old ones still drain a ton of power just being plugged in!  Multiply that effect out across the 10 or so consoles I have setup in my gaming setup and it adds up fast.  I have one of those kill-a-watt pass-thru devices that lets you measure usage, and I think I made a 30 watt dent in my usage, just sitting idle.

I think the switching supply I use for the TGCD is a 12v 1.5a unit.  There's one here on ebay for $10: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370247013208  ... I think I've had to replace the tips on about 1/3 of the ones I've purchased.

The other thing to keep in mind is that when you're talking about power delivery... the 11v 1.5a adapter is able to provide 16.5W (V x A = W) ... so you need to remember that whatever you replace it with should be able to provide at least 16.5W.  A 12v 1.5a adapter is no problem at 18W, but a 9v 1.5a adapter is not going to cut it at only 13.5W.  Maybe the TGCD can get by 99% of the time on 13.5W, but I'd hate to be in the middle of an intense game only the have my unit glitch out on me because I've stumbled upon that 1% of the time it needed all 16W.  ;-)  So if you're going to use a 9v adapter, better make it a 1.85A or 2A version.  ;-)

Cheers.

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Re: Information about the TG-CD's 11VDC power supply.
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2009, 07:49:22 AM »
Or... I coulda just seconded what Charlie said.  ;-)
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Re: Information about the TG-CD's 11VDC power supply.
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2009, 08:04:54 AM »
I have one of those kill-a-watt pass-thru devices that lets you measure usage, and I think I made a 30 watt dent in my usage, just sitting idle.

Nice.  I don't know what juice costs in your neck o' the woods, but the nationwide average is about 13 cents per kilowatt hour, so you're saving about $34 a year.  That's a tidy little sum for very little effort on your part; enough to get yourself a few 'free' PCE games every year.  :dance:
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Re: Information about the TG-CD's 11VDC power supply.
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2013, 02:31:50 PM »
Bump of a really old thread.

Tonight I took a 12V 1000ma power supply from an old 3com shark fin cable modem. Swapped the wires around to make it center negative. It has been powering my TG-CD for a couple hours now and the supply is slightly warm.

Anyone else use a similar supply, 12v 1000ma, and had luck using it for a long time?

Keith Courage

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Re: Information about the TG-CD's 11VDC power supply.
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2013, 07:32:16 PM »
Most power supplys with that kind of voltage and amperage get hot. Nothing to worry about.

Worse comes to worse the AC adapter goes bad someday but it definitely shouldn't do any damage to the system.

« Last Edit: September 03, 2013, 10:26:20 PM by Keith Courage »

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Re: Information about the TG-CD's 11VDC power supply.
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2013, 12:17:44 AM »
Most power supplys with that kind of voltage and amperage get hot. Nothing to worry about.

Worse comes to worse the AC adapter goes bad someday but it definitely shouldn't do any damage to the system.



I chickened out, thinking the 1000ma might be a little low, I found a 12v 1200ma from an older Netgear router and swapped the wires / tip to fit on that. After a couple hours of using that I think it actually felt more warm than the 1000ma adapter did.
I think either will work out fine. I have to use some foam strips in the TG-CD carry case so the smaller adapter doesn't rattle around in the case.

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Re: Information about the TG-CD's 11VDC power supply.
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2015, 07:36:20 PM »
I'm also trying to make sure that I select the correct supply for my Turbo-CD.  After reading through this thread and a couple others, it would seem that this is all that's needed:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=300340058957&globalID=EBAY-US

Can anyone confirm?

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Re: Information about the TG-CD's 11VDC power supply.
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2015, 07:53:50 PM »
i will have to challenge the previous statement about a 9V 1.5A being too low because of lower wattage.
in the case of the TG CD system most of the functions run off 7805 regulators that dont do power conversion, so the system will pull the same current at a lower wattage on a lower voltage supply