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MrBroadway

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Re: Paris
« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2015, 09:34:16 AM »
No, there isn't thousand and thousand people with ideologies incompatible with our way of life. It it was, they would have been in the streets already and setting everything ablaze.
Not to defend the overall sentiment, but that's not really the case. There is a strong discourse among many even moderate Muslims that ordinary Western life is not compatible with Islam. That doesn't mean they're going to be terrorists or anything, though. Of course, the same is true for many religious people, so singling out Islam is merely scapegoating.

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« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2015, 11:14:20 AM »
No, there isn't thousand and thousand people with ideologies incompatible with our way of life. It it was, they would have been in the streets already and setting everything ablaze.

Not to defend the overall sentiment, but that's not really the case. There is a strong discourse among many even moderate Muslims that ordinary Western life is not compatible with Islam. That doesn't mean they're going to be terrorists or anything, though. Of course, the same is true for many religious people, so singling out Islam is merely scapegoating.


Singling out Islam is merely scapegoating? Are you serious? Have you watched the news lately? How often do you see religiously motivated Christians, Jews, Taoists, Hindus, etc. blowing up planes, buildings, cars, etc. I'm no fan of religion in general but let's be honest here.

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You are correct. I can think of no "no go" areas in any parts of London that I have been to. In fact the only community I can think of that was very closed to outsiders was/is orthodox Jews in Stamford hill. . They are VERY private. But still, not a no go area.


Muslim No Go Zones:
http://abc7.com/news/muslim-in-paris-life-inside-the-no-go-zones/1088953/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/16/cnn-owes-jindal-apology-nyt-admits-mythical-muslim-no-go-zones-exist/



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« Reply #47 on: November 18, 2015, 12:30:28 PM »
Muslim No Go Zones:
http://abc7.com/news/muslim-in-paris-life-inside-the-no-go-zones/1088953/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/16/cnn-owes-jindal-apology-nyt-admits-mythical-muslim-no-go-zones-exist/


I honestly think Breitbart is just as retarded as the shit you'll read at Salon or Mother Jones (and to be clear that Salon article posted earlier was a whole lot of stupid). The ABC article you linked seems to show a rough area of town. I don't know if that's any more "no go" than shitty parts of any big city and I don't think it has anything to do with religion.

End of the day, I don't live in France or anywhere in Europe. I'm inclined to believe the guys that live there. That said, there's a obviously a massive problem with Islamic extremists. I fully support killing daesh anywhere they reside.

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« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2015, 09:59:25 AM »
I'm afraid we will see more of this all over Europe since they accepted tens of thousands of Syrian "Refugees" into their countries.


These types of attacks, of various sizes, will continue in Europe and all Western societies. Liberal immigration policies are to fault, but to even discuss the issue gets you labeled a xenophobic, bigoted racist.


It's confirmed now; 5 of the terrorists had French nationalities and at least 2 of them were born in Belgium.

So much for Syrian immigrates.

http://www.thelocal.fr/20151120/paris-attackers-refugees-migrants

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« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2015, 08:09:58 AM »
http://www.thelocal.fr/20151120/paris-attackers-refugees-migrants

This doesn't change the fact that the Syrian refugees aren't responsible of Daesh using those event to send terrorists in.
There was no refugee crisis in January when the Charlie-Hebdo attack happened.
Multiple suspiscious people from Syria and Turkey have been arrested before and during the refugee crisis with forged passports, most of them of shocking good quality.

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« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2015, 08:30:55 AM »
http://www.thelocal.fr/20151120/paris-attackers-refugees-migrants

This doesn't change the fact that the Syrian refugees aren't responsible of Daesh using those event to send terrorists in.
There was no refugee crisis in January when the Charlie-Hebdo attack happened.
Multiple suspiscious people from Syria and Turkey have been arrested before and during the refugee crisis with forged passports, most of them of shocking good quality.

Dude what are you talking about? This has been going on for years. The EU admitted 180k refugees in 2014.

It doesn't matter that "true" refugees do not condone terror, or that a small percent of "refugees" are terrorists. It only takes a small percentage to plan these attacks, and obviously the government cannot detect these people. It is the government's responsibility to protect its citizens. If it cannot determine which of the thousands coming into the country support the jihad, its only option is to close the boarder.

It should concern everyone that with the amount of active surveillance and snooping our governments perform, they still did not pick up on this.

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« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2015, 04:23:12 AM »
Found this video earlier, not sure if it is B.S. Scare Tactics or has some truth.  Either way it is scary.

http://reagancoalition.com/articles/2015/heres-the-refugee-video-liberals-do-not-want-you-to-see.html?utm_source=fnot1&utm_medium=facebook


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« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2015, 06:28:16 AM »
Hmmm, anything that says "the video that ____ doesn't want you to see" or "_____ exposed!" I always take with a ridiculously undersized grain of salt.  There's always a chance of those kinds of articles or videos are true, but I consider it highly suspicious & suspect to just a bunch of hate speech & twistings from people on the other side of an argument.

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« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2015, 07:13:29 AM »
What is hate speech?  Is it only one sided or can it be from both sides?  The video shows an unbelievable amount of Syrian Refugees walking to Germany, watch the video, you tell me what you think.


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« Reply #54 on: November 24, 2015, 07:28:13 AM »
I think we are pretty much living and witnessing the self destruction of western civilization.

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« Reply #55 on: November 24, 2015, 07:38:00 AM »
Hmmm, anything that says "the video that ____ doesn't want you to see" or "_____ exposed!" I always take with a ridiculously undersized grain of salt.

Agreed.  I won't say anything about that video specifically (it won't play for me), but anything titled in such a way is pretty much guaranteed to be slanted half truths and not even close to honest reporting.
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« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2015, 06:03:41 PM »
What is hate speech?  Is it only one sided or can it be from both sides?  The video shows an unbelievable amount of Syrian Refugees walking to Germany, watch the video, you tell me what you think.

I don't mean that it's literally hate speech, I just mean in general, that things in the news/social media/etc. phrased certain ways I tend to be suspicious of & take with a grain of salt.  I couldn't get the video working either, so I can't comment on it.

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« Reply #57 on: November 25, 2015, 03:28:00 AM »
What is hate speech?  Is it only one sided or can it be from both sides?  The video shows an unbelievable amount of Syrian Refugees walking to Germany, watch the video, you tell me what you think.

I don't mean that it's literally hate speech, I just mean in general, that things in the news/social media/etc. phrased certain ways I tend to be suspicious of & take with a grain of salt.  I couldn't get the video working either, so I can't comment on it.

OK, well I just clicked on the link, and it worked for me?  Try again.


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« Reply #58 on: November 25, 2015, 03:34:07 AM »
It still doesn't work for me, and I'm okay with that.
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« Reply #59 on: November 25, 2015, 04:40:00 PM »
I think we are pretty much living and witnessing the self destruction of western civilization.
That actually began when idiots with guns decided to colonize the world.