Just a tiny weird thing about NEC's relatively open platform

[exodus]

Ikegami to made Donkey Kong, Congo Bongo, Zaxxon and Popeye. Are they not real Nintendo and Sega games?

It's a fine line - those were contracted to ghost developers. Cotton had Success right on it, and Westone was certainly its own developer. I'm making the distinction between publisher and developer here, and while some of those blur the line (I'm sure some of the wonderboy games had sega producers involved - but what publisher doesn't do that for any game), I would say that it's harder to call Cotton a Sega game than Sonic.

My friend who is doing a wonderboy remake had to get permission from sega, yes, but he had to get a contract from westone.

[Punch]

There are lots of great Sega games and lots of great ports of them for PC Engine, like Cotton, Bikkuriman World, Monster Lair, Dragon's Curse, Dynastic Hero, Afterburner, Puyo Puyo, Fantasy Zone, Bonanza Bros, Columns and Outrun (popular opinion).

It's hard to say the wonderboy, cotton, and puyo puyo games are sega, since they're not originally sega developed! westone and compile had close relationships with sega, but they're not sega...

There's no such thing as real Sega or real Nintendo. Going into the 16-bit generation, publishers tried to keep dev team members from even using their real names in game credits. Publishers always contracted various dev teams to make their games. It wasn't until the 32-bit and the generation after that which major publishers like Sega let teams advertise who they are. Even then, many dev teams like Tose never received any credit at all for much of their work.

Ikegami to made Donkey Kong, Congo Bongo, Zaxxon and Popeye. Are they not real Nintendo and Sega games?

Ahh Ikegami, the company that the biased editors at wikipedia will never acknowledge. Up until a year or two it was listed on the donkey kong wikipedia page as a "fringe theory", and nowadays is "some sources claim", besides all Donkey Kong mask roms having this data:

"TEL.TOKYO-JAPAN 044(244)2151 EXTENTION 304 SYSTEM DESIGN IKEGAMI CO. LIM."

fringe theory guys

[guyjin]

There are lots of great Sega games and lots of great ports of them for PC Engine, like Cotton, Bikkuriman World, Monster Lair, Dragon's Curse, Dynastic Hero, Afterburner, Puyo Puyo, Fantasy Zone, Bonanza Bros, Columns and Outrun (popular opinion).

It's hard to say the wonderboy, cotton, and puyo puyo games are sega, since they're not originally sega developed! westone and compile had close relationships with sega, but they're not sega...

There's no such thing as real Sega or real Nintendo. Going into the 16-bit generation, publishers tried to keep dev team members from even using their real names in game credits. Publishers always contracted various dev teams to make their games. It wasn't until the 32-bit and the generation after that which major publishers like Sega let teams advertise who they are. Even then, many dev teams like Tose never received any credit at all for much of their work.

Ikegami to made Donkey Kong, Congo Bongo, Zaxxon and Popeye. Are they not real Nintendo and Sega games?

Ahh Ikegami, the company that the biased editors at wikipedia will never acknowledge. Up until a year or two it was listed on the donkey kong wikipedia page as a "fringe theory", and nowadays is "some sources claim", besides all Donkey Kong mask roms having this data:

"TEL.TOKYO-JAPAN 044(244)2151 EXTENTION 304 SYSTEM DESIGN IKEGAMI CO. LIM."

fringe theory guys

Yup. Wikipedia has serious issues. Did you know it overstates Atari jaguar sales by almost twice? Their article used to link to a tax document that stated they sold something like 135,000 jags, and the rest were liquidated. that document went back behind a paywall, and jag fanboys started pretending the liquidated units were 'sold'.

[esteban]

There are lots of great Sega games and lots of great ports of them for PC Engine, like Cotton, Bikkuriman World, Monster Lair, Dragon's Curse, Dynastic Hero, Afterburner, Puyo Puyo, Fantasy Zone, Bonanza Bros, Columns and Outrun (popular opinion).

It's hard to say the wonderboy, cotton, and puyo puyo games are sega, since they're not originally sega developed! westone and compile had close relationships with sega, but they're not sega...

There's no such thing as real Sega or real Nintendo. Going into the 16-bit generation, publishers tried to keep dev team members from even using their real names in game credits. Publishers always contracted various dev teams to make their games. It wasn't until the 32-bit and the generation after that which major publishers like Sega let teams advertise who they are. Even then, many dev teams like Tose never received any credit at all for much of their work.

Ikegami to made Donkey Kong, Congo Bongo, Zaxxon and Popeye. Are they not real Nintendo and Sega games?

Ahh Ikegami, the company that the biased editors at wikipedia will never acknowledge. Up until a year or two it was listed on the donkey kong wikipedia page as a "fringe theory", and nowadays is "some sources claim", besides all Donkey Kong mask roms having this data:

"TEL.TOKYO-JAPAN 044(244)2151 EXTENTION 304 SYSTEM DESIGN IKEGAMI CO. LIM."

fringe theory guys

Yup. Wikipedia has serious issues. Did you know it overstates Atari jaguar sales by almost twice? Their article used to link to a tax document that stated they sold something like 135,000 jags, and the rest were liquidated. that document went back behind a paywall, and jag fanboys started pretending the liquidated units were 'sold'.

Fundamentally, that's a problem with paywalls, comrade.

And silly Jaguar fans, too.