TOTALLY FAWKING AWESOME 6- MEG HUCARD DUKE EM' OUT

[nat]

Shocked at all the Raiden love. Raiden is mediocre at best.

Are you really surprised though?

Yeah, kinda. I realize as far as arcade-correctness goes, Raiden is a great port. The game is (as someone else mentioned) a rip-off of Tiger Heli and is just kind of bland. Nothing exciting. It's better than bottom-of-the-barrel scum like Ordyne, but there are about 100 PCE/Turbo shooters that are better.

Thanks for the link though, that's an interesting comparison piece.

[ceti alpha]

Yeah, kinda. I realize as far as arcade-correctness goes, Raiden is a great port. The game is (as someone else mentioned) a rip-off of Tiger Heli and is just kind of bland. Nothing exciting. It's better than bottom-of-the-barrel scum like Ordyne, but there are about 100 PCE/Turbo shooters that are better.

Thanks for the link though, that's an interesting comparison piece.

I guess I should have said, "Are you surprised that I love Raiden?". You know, because of my love for the game that starts with "X"? 

Yeah, I never thought about the Tiger Heli similarities before, but it's so obvious now that I think about it. I always compared it to Sky Shark. Sky Shark is pretty much the same game, but you're flying a bi-plane instead of a futuristic jet. I agree though, there are many better shooters, but when just comparing the 6 meg cards Raiden is a front runner for sure.

Yeah, that's a pretty good comparison piece. I just can't get over how ugly the Jaguar's side bar is.  To me that makes the game unplayable. 

[nat]

I agree though, there are many better shooters, but when just comparing the 6 meg cards Raiden is a front runner for sure.

You got that right. Most of those games are uninteresting crap, Darius and Raiden are the only games even approaching "good." Darius is fantastic though.

I'm still on the fence about N2... I'll give it a good run someday.

[spenoza]

You know, it occurred to me that they didn't do much with 6 meg chips once they started producing them.

[Black Tiger]

Shocked at all the Raiden love. Raiden is mediocre at best.

Are you really surprised though? I've always had a love for Raiden, but I have a love for tough shooters. Raiden wasn't revolutionary in terms of gameplay, but it's a classic shmup. It's also one of the better translations of the game, IMHO. I still need to get Super Raiden on Super CDROM2.

Here's a comparison of all the "16 bit" systems:

http://www.digitpress.com/reviews/raiden.htm

That comparison makes the Turbo version out to be weak compared to the Genesis and SNES ports, while I've only heard the opposite about it over the years.

[ceti alpha]

That comparison makes the Turbo version out to be weak compared to the Genesis and SNES ports, while I've only heard the opposite about it over the years.

Yeah, I was just reading it over again and you're right. He's really reluctant to give any props to the Duo (i.e. "On the Duo, animation has again been slashed, but compared to the Genesis version, this brightly lit, and colorful effort looks better than expected.") lol?  Was that supposed to be a compliment?

Though he is probably right about the sound on the Turbo version not going through all the audio channels. It might explain why Raiden was the only game my sound-issue-ridden Duo could play without the audio cutting out.

But he praises the Jaguar up and down, yet from the screenshots you wouldn't think it. The Jaguar screenshot looks like when Kits goes crazy with the gaussian blur.  http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=4799.0

Anyway, normally the Turbo gets wins out in these comparisons.

[awack]

That comparison makes the Turbo version out to be weak compared to the Genesis and SNES ports, while I've only heard the opposite about it over the years.

The pce raiden is with out doubt the best version of those three, the genesis is second, its very good port, the snes version sucks.

The reviewer talked allot about missing animations, this is definitely where the pce version shines, with at least twice as many frames on the explosions, the list goes on and on about missing detail and animations, the pce raiden really is an awesome version for its time.

[Black Tiger]

One of the things I've always heard about the PCE Raiden is that the soundtrack was very well done. I just previewed the sound rip in ME and it uses 5 sound channels for the music.

I doubt that the arcade version had any "channels of the audio" that "the meager Turbo music failed to pick up on".

[Digi.k]

I'm pretty sure Legend of the Valkyrie is not 6megabit

I don't think namco produced any HUcards over 4meg which is a shame cause I sure did wish Dragon Saber was .. at the time it was being produced