eBay ID: classicarcadegamecollector
eBay item in question: 290260542434
email: prick1369@hotmail.com
Name: Warren Wiliams
location: Pittsburgh, PA
In no attempt to steal Michael's thunder during the ongoing incident about the jackass london.21 aka the.recordmans.music on eBay, here we have another ass that enjoys using eBay's new feedback system in attempt to lower Search standings of other sellers that he thinks might be in competition with him; at the top of Best Match.
Anyone that knows anything about the new feedback system on eBay knows that regardless of DSR's of 4 being stated as 'Acceptable', that this is not acceptable at maintaining a good account status in regards to Search standings. eBay's new feedback system is crap, and this is just one of the ways that buyers (or other sellers) can screw over sellers by lowering their DSRs.
I had this guy leave me feedback the other day, which I immediately noticed a drop in my Shipping and Handling charges DSR. I watch them pretty closely, so I knew it was him. Having seen his name around before, I knew exactly what happened, so I contacted him about it formally, and pretty much told him he was banned due to what he was trying to pull. He threw a fit over $1, which is a legitimate and menial charge, and didn't even cover all of my packing supplies.
Hello, it has come to my attention that you just left feedback for an item that arrived 3 weeks ago, when I contacted you about it shortly after it's arrival with no response. While I appreciate every feedback I get, I have noticed something that I received from you, which I did not deserve, nor appreciate: A DSR rating of less than 5. The DSR ratings here on eBay should be honest, not lied on to make an advantage for yourself. You left something lower than a 5 on my Shipping and Handling Charges rating (as well as possibly others), when I charged you $6.94 to ship this cart, and everyone else charges a flat $10 usually. As a seller yourself, you know how much these weigh, and if $3 less than everyone else isn't reasonable or acceptable, I don't know what is. I know you left less than a 5 on my DSR rating for that because I watch my DSR feedback closely. Due to this behavior, you have been banned from further bidding on ANY of my auctions in the future. Thank you.
Now his reply is the real kicker:
Hello,
Wow, look at you go. Being blocked from your auctions will hardly be a life altering event for me, although suicide did briefly cross my mind, but a few hours of therapy seems to have stabilized me. Any way, I do not feel that I have left you any bad feedback. Your shipment cost you $5.94 to send, not $6.94. There wasn't any $1 packing fee listed in the auction. A 4, by Ebay's standards is "acceptable", which you were. Did you not get the email from Ebay stating that "free shipping" will solicit more 5's then charging $1 over cost?? Why are you bringing others into this, I didn't buy from them? And some sellers do offer free shipping on carts. So by your comparison rule, you should have gotten less than a 4. And I would leave them a 3 or 2, if they charge too much. Again, Ebay states that a 4 is acceptable and should bear no negative response. How is charging more than cost a 5? You have lost me on that one. How would you feel if you honestly participated in the feedback system, and were banned from bidding because a buyer thinks he gets all 5's, not matter what? Explain to me how your shipping cost is a solid 5 and we can proceed from there. I am sorry if anything that I have done is unacceptable to you, but if you look at it from my side, you can see that i am truly sorry that I ever dealt with you. Ebay is slowly destroying their base of loyal customers with stupid rules that cause sellers to harass innocent buyers. As a seller, I used to charge $.01 over the cost of a stamp, for the cost of the envelope, when I mailed envelopes to buyers. After the new policy, I lowered in to below the cost of a stamp, to solicit 5's. It worked, as you can see. And not that it matters to you, but that cart wasn't for me, it was for my local youth group. It was for the kids man, for the kids. I have printed out this email to give to the group, so that they know they won't be playing any new games from you! GOd Bless! This is a total waste of my time and intelligence, so I hope you have a great day!! ;-)
C'est la vie,
Me
P.S. I have reported your threating email and unjust banning to Ebay. Maybe you are right, maybe I am right, and maybe both of our positions are right? I will let Ebay decide what they want to do, since this is their world and a problem created by their policies.
I just replied to him today (received the original email Friday), as I was away from the computer for a few days:
Wow, let me count the ways about how ignorant and full of yourself you are, not to mention how many other people I have let read your response and have blocked and banned you as well.
I will be the first one to admit yeah, it cost me 5.94 + .18 (Paypal label/DC fee) for shipping on your item; I have nothing to hide. The fact that you left me a 4 based on a $1 menial packing fee, which did not even cover all of the packing material, etc. shows how much of a stingy person you are. I have ALWAYS charged $1 or $1.25 fee in addition to shipping on small items, and that doesn't cover eBay or Paypal fees, not to mention gas, time, and the real cost of packing materials. I have more than the right to do so without saying anything on my auctions (eBay even states I am NOT required to list such things, and I am allowed to), and if you want to get into that, go look at other people's auctions that actually charge shipping - they charge more than that, like I stated before. That charge is menial and it takes some of the bite out of all of the fees I have to pay. Packing materials are not free either.
Also, you are a plain out hypocrite: Before you wrote me, the shipping on your Sky Soldiers PCB was more than you have it listed now, and you changed it right before or after you wrote me.
As for free shipping, you are a joke. My item sold for what, $13.63?
$6.12 for shipping costs + $0.35 insertion fee + $1.19 final value fee + $0.90 paypal fee + my time + packing materials + gas = $5.07 not counting the last 3 which could not be valued had the auction ended and I was offering free shipping. That's some awesome profit there. I think I would have rather given the cart away to a poor kid, rather than have to deal with an a$$hole like you. At least they would have appreciated it more, even if they didn't have a Neo Geo.As for other sellers giving away carts for next to nothing, good for them; they are not me, and if I wanted to do that, I would put the stuff in the free section in my local paper, or better yet, out on the curb.
Why am I bringing others up? Because you had a choice of who to buy from. You saw my shipping prices BEFORE you bid. If you didn't, then you didn't read the notation at the top of my auction that states in red letters: 'Please Read the complete description, BEFORE BIDDING!'
The shipping costs section are PART of the description, and that stated $6.94 for your zip code. The fact that you chose Parcel also shows how much of a cheap ass you were
You state 4 is 'Acceptable' and while it may state that when selecting it, it really shows how much of a fool you really are if you honestly believe that about the new feedback system. So let me guess, if eBay told you to walk off of a cliff and told you it would feel great when you hit the bottom, you would believe them too, eh?
Apparently you don't understand what the DSRs do to accounts (even though I know you are playing dumb), and the fact of the matter, that it plainly shows how little concern you have for your own customers with your communication at 4.6, which is spelled out in the fact that I wrote you AFTER you recieved your item to verify you received it, and never got a single response or anything until you left feedback 3 weeks later.
"How would you feel if you honestly participated in the feedback system, and were banned from bidding because a buyer thinks he gets all 5's, not matter what?"
I'm not banning you for just leaving 4's, I'm banning you for your ignorant reasoning, being a stinge over $1, severe lack of communication to discuss the issue with me prior to leaving feedback and the plain fact that you are a reseller, trying to knock me out of competition with you on here, when I'm the last person you need to worry about, and furthermore, eBay is not the only marketplace for me. Thing is, you left 4's because there is now a kickback system in place where if a buyer leaves a positive feedback, and leaves anything lower than 4's or 3's on the DSRs consistantly, eBay supposedly takes a look and takes appropriate action.
I don't leave people that charge even $3 extra less than 5's if they do what they are supposed to, because I know how much it costs to ship items, pack them correctly, and overall have a professional attitude about it all. My original message to you about your feedback was formal, but when you show complete stupidity and play dumb about what you did, I have no qualms about bypassing that to an extent, and anyone else would do the same.
"Ebay is slowly destroying their base of loyal customers with stupid rules that cause sellers to harass innocent buyers."
You are a fine example of how eBay is going to shit and the people exploiting it; you are talking about yourself there, but oh nevermind, you are a reseller, so your pity party doesn't work there. You are the type that is only out for himself, so no, this isn't harassment, you plainly took me as competition and felt you needed to do something about it.
"As a seller, I used to charge $.01 over the cost of a stamp, for the cost of the envelope, when I mailed envelopes to buyers. After the new policy, I lowered in to below the cost of a stamp, to solicit 5's. It worked, as you can see."
No, I don't see anything, other than your severe lack of communication (which I experienced first hand) unless someone contacts you about something you don't like. Your feedback plainly shows that, with a whopping 4.6 which is lower than all of your other DSRs. Keep in mind you left me 4's across the board, even on communication, so your crap about bringing up $1 over shipping cost is null and void in regards to it all as well.
"I have printed out this email to give to the group, so that they know they won't be playing any new games from you!"
I don't care if the cart was for your grandmother or your pet rock. If it was for your local youth group, you wouldn't be a reseller, now would you? No, of course not. Maybe you should print out your sales for the month for them too, as well as your record of feedback you leave for people, along with DSRs? Keep on deceiving people and see where it eventually gets you. Making yourself look good in front of a bunch of teenagers and children by lying is nothing new; members of the church have been doing it for years, and I'm glad to see that you are keeping that tradition going. Nothing like letting/making people see your viewpoint without significant evidence what you wrote back to me from yourself, eh? :-P
As for playing any new games from me, I would definitely hope not, as:
A. I'm not a reseller, I don't sell items often
B. Neither you or your 'youth group/grandmother' will be touching my collection of games, EVER.
C. If your youth group is anything like you, I hope I never deal with any of them either.
D. I don't give free shipping.
Also, make DAMN sure you print out this whole email, so they can read how much of an ass I think you are, and that your logic is completely flawed.
"P.S. I have reported your threating email and unjust banning to Ebay. Maybe you are right, maybe I am right, and maybe both of our positions are right? I will let Ebay decide what they want to do, since this is their world and a problem created by their policies."
Have fun with that, and let me know what they say (have fun holding your breath). Furthermore, there is no rule in place by eBay that states anything about controlling who and when I can or cannot ban ANYONE from bidding on anything I have up for sale. The ONLY people that reserve that right are me, myself and I, and if you have a problem with it, tough luck. It's already done and it's not getting changed or lifted, especially after this email.
As for threats, if you want to hear threats, go listen to this:
BTW - nice email address, I think that spells out what you are as well: prick1369@hotmail.com
Don't bother writing me back - I will be making a thread about this on some forums, and you will only be adding to the humor.
It's people like this that motivate me to get my list of dealings over the last decade typed up, so everyone can see who the real a$$holes are.
Topic: eBay buyer and reseller classicarcadegamecollector (Read 297 times)
