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[Dark Fact]

So a game needs to have 5908723459087 buttons for playing, a 1 hour tutorial before starting to actually play the game, and crazy uber 3d graphics to be a good game by todays standards?  Well that's how I see most games these days.  If it's simple fun gameplay then it's obviously lame and so 1990's.

Dude, you just described EVE Online.

[sunteam_paul]

So a game needs to have 5908723459087 buttons for playing, a 1 hour tutorial before starting to actually play the game, and crazy uber 3d graphics to be a good game by todays standards?  Well that's how I see most games these days.  If it's simple fun gameplay then it's obviously lame and so 1990's.

Dude, you just described EVE Online.

No, not even a 1 hour tutorial is enough to understand what the hell is going on in EVE.