Worst Turbo game of 1991

[nodtveidt]

Well, LA and LA II really have nothing to do with each other aside from the developers though...it was the knuckleheaded US morons who considered "Dark Legend" the sequel to Legendary Axe. Spiritual successor perhaps, but not a true sequel in any sense of the word. The music style in LA II is nothing like that in LA.

Tell you what though...I could always rip the sprites out of LA and make a better game with them.

[ccovell]

Not true... the Japanese magazines wrote in their previews of Ankoku Densetsu that it was the sequel to Makyou Densetsu.  And even though it was quite different from the first one, the music doesn't enter into it.  Zelda 1 and Zelda 2 had different composers, not to mention Bonks 2 and 3.

[nodtveidt]

The two games have nothing to do with each other. It's like Granzort being the actual sequel to Keith Courage (how many people have parroted this?), it just isn't reality. But I was not drawing the distinction based on the music...we were talking about music style at the moment. And just because Japanese magazines write it, it doesn't make it truth. Even back then, they didn't always get their stories straight, and it seems to have only gotten worse nowadays. Parroting incorrect information has been a mainstay in video game journalism since...well, since the dawn of video game journalism. I know Zelda 1 and 2 had different composers...the style is completely different, and the same goes for Bonk 2 and 3...you can tell it was someone else. But again, the distinction was not being drawn based on the different composers.

[ccovell]

Okay, so your comment (and my comment) about the music is neither here nor there.  However, Victor/JVC's advertisement for AD in the Japanese magazines says that it's the sequel to MD.  To be honest, the text says "With spooky graphics and a hard difficulty, this realistic, multi-scrolling action game can also be said to be the sequel to Makyou Densetsu."  "also be said" weakens the argument only somewhat that from the start (JP publisher) to the finish (US mags), this game was billed as the sequel to MD.

[esteban]

Well, LA and LA II really have nothing to do with each other aside from the developers though...it was the knuckleheaded US morons who considered "Dark Legend" the sequel to Legendary Axe. Spiritual successor perhaps, but not a true sequel in any sense of the word. The music style in LA II is nothing like that in LA.

Tell you what though...I could always rip the sprites out of LA and make a better game with them.

I meant, "You do have good taste in chiptunes, so that is what makes your distaste for LA so confusing."

It's not like you don't appreciate chiptunes; If you didn't like PSG, I'd have a much harder sell


I'm being silly, of course, and I'll stop beating a dead horse. As such, I hereby announce that I will not try to persuade you to love LA's music. 


As for your offer: you can keep LA intact, but do all the changes that, in your opinion, would make the game better (i.e. hit detection, placement of enemies, the fact that Gogan gets knocked back when enemies strike him, etc.). I just listed some random things that folks might have a problem with... but the music, the music, cannot be altered!

[Sinistron]

Legendary Axe is just so obviously sweet- the gameplay incredibly solid to this day- the graphics (other than the eagles) look great- and the music is and has always been awesome.

[nectarsis]

The two games have nothing to do with each other. It's like Granzort being the actual sequel to Keith Courage (how many people have parroted this?), it just isn't reality. But I was not drawing the distinction based on the music...we were talking about music style at the moment. And just because Japanese magazines write it, it doesn't make it truth. Even back then, they didn't always get their stories straight, and it seems to have only gotten worse nowadays. Parroting incorrect information has been a mainstay in video game journalism since...well, since the dawn of video game journalism. I know Zelda 1 and 2 had different composers...the style is completely different, and the same goes for Bonk 2 and 3...you can tell it was someone else. But again, the distinction was not being drawn based on the different composers.

I have only heard people calling Granzort a SPIRITUAL successor to Keith Corage never a direct sequel. 

[Black Tiger]

I've always thought of the Axe/Densetsu games as part of the sames series like Gate and Lords of Thunder. One not a sequel to the other, but both entries of the same 'line'. Kinda like Wonderboy/Monster World, without obvious overlapping stories/elements.

[Necromancer]

When I think of excellent hucard music, I think of Dead Moon, Neutopia II, or Legendary Axe II.

*cough*  Dungeon Explorer  *cough*

[esteban]

- the graphics (other than the eagles) look great-

You mean the pixelated blob that flaps around near the cliffs? Is that an eagle? Hawk? Vulture? Turkey?

Turkey vulture?

[Sinistron]

- the graphics (other than the eagles) look great-

You mean the pixelated blob that flaps around near the cliffs? Is that an eagle? Hawk? Vulture? Turkey?

Turkey vulture?

Lol- yeah- turkey vulture is what it looks like- a Vulkey.

[TheClash603]

Yo Bro!  Don't be so hard on Yo Bro!  The game actually plays pretty well once you get used to the tricky controls (I loved 720 NES too...).  Not to mention the Beach Boys soundtrack is so good, makes you wanna forgive poor Phil Specter (ok, maybe not).

Champions Forever is the worst game on the list.  Unplayable garbage, no variety, hideous noise for sound.  Puke.

[esteban]

Yo Bro!  Don't be so hard on Yo Bro!  The game actually plays pretty well once you get used to the tricky controls (I loved 720 NES too...).  Not to mention the Beach Boys soundtrack is so good, makes you wanna forgive poor Phil Specter (ok, maybe not).

Champions Forever is the worst game on the list.  Unplayable garbage, no variety, hideous noise for sound.  Puke.

Many moons ago, I've argued that Yo' Bro! is a poor man's Zombies Ate My Neighbors. Yo' Bro! isn't nearly as engaging--plus, the control has a lot to be desired (aiming weapons, for example), but I was able to squeeze a little fun out of Yo' Bro! when I thought of it as a low-budget Zombies. Initially, though, I absolutely detested Yo' Bro! Ugghhhhh, it was a letdown.

As for Champions Forever boxing... one man's hideous noise is another man's music. (Did I say music?)

"How hard can you hit?" asks the scratchy voice of an East Coast rapper at the opening of Champions Forever Boxing.

Champions Forever is exponentially less appealing than Yo' Bro! In fact, the only thing I like is the novelty of the music / samples and "hip hop" shenanigans. Honestly.