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Re: URC Demo (PCE CD racing game)
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2011, 11:34:47 PM »
It would be cool to see some shitty FMV stuff on the PCE for sure.  The HUVideo stuff from Gulliver Boy was pretty cool, but could the PCE have done better?

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« Reply #61 on: September 13, 2011, 04:37:33 AM »
It would be cool to see some shitty FMV stuff on the PCE for sure.  The HUVideo stuff from Gulliver Boy was pretty cool, but could the PCE have done better?

 It would be nice to see something written from scratch, for a FMV demo for the PCE. I mean, just for the fact that nobody has really bothered to.

HuVideo stuff is pretty much maxed out as far as bandwidth goes. It uses custom CD read routines (bypassing the system card ones) that directly access the interface hardware, to get faster transfer rates. The transfer rate is ~122k (0x3000bytes per frame * 10 fps). I guess you could change the window size as long as it fits the 0x3000 byte limitation. Or lower the frame rate. What kind of stuff were you thinking? SegaCD has an extra processor for handling the cinepak codebook decompression and such. PCE wastes a good amount of time polling the status register for the next sector to read out (manually). Not really a lot you can do there.

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« Reply #62 on: September 13, 2011, 05:52:39 AM »

 It would be nice to see something written from scratch, for a FMV demo for the PCE. I mean, just for the fact that nobody has really bothered to.



OOOh, just ask ..


But it works with AC ..

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« Reply #63 on: September 13, 2011, 06:03:52 AM »
OOOh, just ask ..



But it works with AC ..


That's pretty neato!  Is it using only the AC memory or is it streaming at the same time?  What's the frame rate, color depth, and resolution?
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Re: URC Demo (PCE CD racing game)
« Reply #64 on: September 13, 2011, 06:48:48 AM »
Resolution is low, like frame rate, because all is stored on AC, and directly loaded in it before (no streaming) ..
Color depth is standard 16 colors .

I don't know exact specs, but this demo was made by Orion_ , the URC creator.
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« Reply #65 on: September 13, 2011, 07:56:37 AM »
It would be cool to see some shitty FMV stuff on the PCE for sure.  The HUVideo stuff from Gulliver Boy was pretty cool, but could the PCE have done better?

John Madden does full screen HuVideo.
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Re: URC Demo (PCE CD racing game)
« Reply #66 on: September 13, 2011, 01:08:27 PM »
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 My initial post wasn't specifically meant to be condescending. But we have history and I should have known better. Things end up degrading into personal/snide remarks between us, and that wasn't my original intention. I too don't back down when I interpret something as snide or personal attack. So with that, I think I'll just keep any communications between us as nill-to-fairly light.



 Hey touko, I did see that demo. Though I was referring to streaming from the CD. Getting the most bandwidth while still keeping things in sync and without hickup (pauses and such). It's definitely not easy. Cool to see Orion_ delving into AC stuff.

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John Madden does full screen HuVideo.

 They scale the vertical res by 2 using an H-int routine, in realtime. So that gives it the full visual frame effect. It's been a while but IIRC, there's no audio and the frame rate is lower in that opening. But I don't remember what the packet size was for the frame. What I thought was cool in that game, is that they have different videos with different frame rate. A few of the small ones were 30fps :D

 PowerGolf 2 has some cool FMV. I don't remember if it's huvideo or not, but the opening video is 15fps.

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Re: URC Demo (PCE CD racing game)
« Reply #67 on: September 13, 2011, 03:19:48 PM »
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Maybe one day you will learn how to reply to peoples generalized posts and comments without making condescending personal attacks.

 You know what? I apologize.

 My initial post wasn't specifically meant to be condescending. But we have history and I should have known better. Things end up degrading into personal/snide remarks between us, and that wasn't my original intention. I too don't back down when I interpret something as snide or personal attack. So with that, I think I'll just keep any communications between us as nill-to-fairly light


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Re: URC Demo (PCE CD racing game)
« Reply #68 on: September 13, 2011, 05:36:56 PM »

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John Madden does full screen HuVideo.


 They scale the vertical res by 2 using an H-int routine, in realtime. So that gives it the full visual frame effect. It's been a while but IIRC, there's no audio and the frame rate is lower in that opening. But I don't remember what the packet size was for the frame. What I thought was cool in that game, is that they have different videos with different frame rate. A few of the small ones were 30fps :D


The System Card 3.0 warning screen is pretty smooth from what I remember.




That simple gif has a ton of animation removed. I think that the warning video is silent, but the full screen(ish?) ending fmv has music of some sort.

What's cool about JMDCDF is that it has a variety of different forms of fmv and it's easy enough to jump in and get to some without major gameplay.

I remember some of the clips looking silky smooth. I wouldn't have guessed today that frame rates got that high though. :P
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Re: URC Demo (PCE CD racing game)
« Reply #69 on: September 13, 2011, 06:16:48 PM »
I thought HuVideo was strictly a Hu Card thing.

Edit: Nevermind. A fist bearing a Duomozov ring came out of my monitor and poked some sense into my eyes.
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Re: URC Demo (PCE CD racing game)
« Reply #70 on: September 14, 2011, 03:37:58 AM »
I thought HuVideo was strictly a Hu Card thing.

Edit: Nevermind. A fist bearing a Duomozov ring came out of my monitor and poked some sense into my eyes.

 Funny you mention that. I'm currently working on a little demo right now (writing the PC side compression code/utility for the video), for the hucard. It's an animation/video demo. It's nothing special; it's more of a 'me too' type of thing. Anyway, it won't be huvideo but it will be FMV on a hucard if that counts for anything :)

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Re: URC Demo (PCE CD racing game)
« Reply #71 on: September 14, 2011, 05:27:05 AM »
I thought HuVideo was strictly a Hu Card thing.

Edit: Nevermind. A fist bearing a Duomozov ring came out of my monitor and poked some sense into my eyes.

 Funny you mention that. I'm currently working on a little demo right now (writing the PC side compression code/utility for the video), for the hucard. It's an animation/video demo. It's nothing special; it's more of a 'me too' type of thing. Anyway, it won't be huvideo but it will be FMV on a hucard if that counts for anything :)

I'd be interested in seeing that. :)
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Re: URC Demo (PCE CD racing game)
« Reply #72 on: September 14, 2011, 11:14:51 AM »
it better be sewer shark or it doesn't count.
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Re: URC Demo (PCE CD racing game)
« Reply #73 on: September 14, 2011, 02:17:36 PM »
That'll be cool to see Bonknuts.


As far as CD stuff goes, I think in order to qualify as Shitty FMV (tm), it has to be streaming off of the disk.

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Re: URC Demo (PCE CD racing game)
« Reply #74 on: September 15, 2011, 06:11:46 AM »
That'll be cool to see Bonknuts.


As far as CD stuff goes, I think in order to qualify as Shitty FMV (tm), it has to be streaming off of the disk.

So, Sonic 3D Blast doesn't count?
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