Ok well I was in total support of this thread at first, but I have to be upfront and honest here, because I went out on a limb for you recommending you to a guy I have known personally for like 13 years, so I am involved in your mystery thread updates and your current irrational and erratic behavior.
I appreciate your help, but please don't tell people about my stuff anymore. If they aren't a regular and I've haven't dealt with them before, I'm not dealing with them. I have no time or interest in dealing with people's shit.
Concerning member Quoth09,
Well actually he is a regular here, and he has been a member here way way longer then you. He just does not post as often anymore, but still reads up on things now and then and there is plenty here from back when he posted often that could vouch for him besides myself. I read the pm's back and forth concerning the transaction. He is not the kind of guy to scam people and what he proposed to you is not unreasonable and in fact complied with your asking for fees. You asked for fees in a update post after the fact, but he was fine with that as he is fair and flexible.
The fee issue is on you. It is actually not some universal rule for forum sales that the buyer includes fees. On any forum related sale I usually give the buyer option via pm to send as gift or pay the fees. I do this prior to them making a payment. You did no such thing with Eric and did not inform him about having a issue with fees until quite a few hours after you confirmed payment and told him you would be shipping it out.
"Payment received bro! I'll get it shipped out ASAP and get you a tracking #."Your words, not his. He had no idea there was a problem until hours after when you decided to update your payment policy. Also, he in advance asked you if you planned to sell anything else jamma\arcade related and if so to let him know. You ignored him on this and posted the Hyper64 stuff without giving him any heads up. You have a guy here, who has been a long time member here, showing you he is good for a buy, and you are ignoring him. I don't get why but to be blunt its retarded.
Regarding fees, I
personally don't recommend anyone do gift payments unless they have had multiple dealings with the seller before, and people who buy from me always get the option to do one or the other because I don't care to put people I don't know in uncomfortable situations on purchases. To be honest gift payments offer buyers ZERO protection, and demanding only gift payments is not really reasonable or the good basis for trust. Thats not a mutual trust at all even. Thats you saying if you don't trust me go to hell then. If the seller refuses to ship, paypal will not step in. If the item arrives not as described, paypal will not step in. You are asking the buyer to trust you a lot in this case and honestly you did not provide any pics or videos showing this equipment as even tested working, so people are already trusting you even when they send you payments via normal methods involving fees.
I don't blame Eric for not wanting to resend you a gift payment. He does not know you AT ALL. The fact of the matter is you already had his cash, all you had to do was just show him how much paypal wanted in fees so he could send that to you, and you turned around and got abusive in messages back and refunded him. Make no mistake, I put MYSELF out on a limb here by recommending your sale to him. Had I known how you were going to treat him I would not have, as it makes me look bad and risk damaging my rep with a long time friend. You were in a bind, it was obvious, and I recommended you to a guy who I knew personally was good for large buys, and you are basically blowing it.
I mean seriously, this is the PCEFX forum, not Klov or the Neo forums. I sent a guy who I knew personally who actually collects arcade hardware to help you out because I did not expect to see the stuff selling right away. To be honest your treatment towards Eric is totally uncalled for. You have no reason to not sell to him, and it looks like as you have been going you are going out of your way to look for reasons to not complete transactions. Without damn good reason, if you don't want to complete the transaction after receiving payment, then
you are officially a time waster and problematic seller. That is basically one step away from being labeled a
scammer.
The treatment you gave Eric,
we as a community don't put up with it around here, and make no mistake, Eric is a member of this community still. He does still stop in off and on to read up on things and to make purchases. His activity being less then what it used to be has more to do with events that happened prior to you joining. Regardless, like Ninja Spirit and other long term members here way before you, he does stop in. The way you treated him however would probably make anyone in his situation not want to keep doing so. It is very counter productive behavior for this community for you to treat members like him like that.
You deciding to not sell the MVS 4 slot to him is not going to kill him. He has other MVS units. It would have been nice to have, but you're not punishing him by telling him you already have someone else to sell it to lined up, basically throwing that in his face (which in a way also tells me you were looking for reasons to get out of the transaction with Eric). But lets be clear,
YOU burned this buyer for
ZERO legit reasons, the buyer did not burn you.
I get it, you are under stress from your ex, and a lot of this stuff is things you'd rather not part with to begin with. The simple fact of the matter is though that you want to keep the car, you are in a bind, and people have offered to help buy stuff off you and get you some quick cash, and you are outright f*cking with them. I don't know if its because you are angry and just taking your stress out on others or what, but you are quickly making it apparent no one should be dealing with you right now until you get yourself relaxed, clearheaded, and organized. Until then, I hate to say it, but buyer beware. And also, given the nature of the way Mishram acted in pm concerning this transaction with Quote09/Eric, I would expect Eric will be dropping in soon to post the messages and what not and give further details concerning these issues with Mishram, either here or on Fighting Street.
Also, side note, Mishram, this is a SALES section of the forum. If you are not ready to sell the stuff then you should not be posting pics or list or anything. As stated, I understand you are in a bind, need cash but don't want to get rid of stuff. Regardless, you have no business posting MVS carts or anything else until you are full on ready to sell and accept payment for them. You posting the stuff then getting mad when people pm you asking about prices or when you plan to sell is absurd. You expecting people to not contact you about the stuff, equally absurd. If you don't want people contacting you about the stuff, don't post it for sale.
Concerning Eric, like I would any other seller who f*cked with someone here for no good reason, if you don't apologize and fix the problem with him, on any future sales thread you do, as long as I am still posting here I will be posting links to this incident on any future sales you do so buyers will be forewarned of how you treated a member and 100 percent solid buyer here. I dont think you want that kind of alienation. What that will end up leaving you with is a selection of buyers you know you wont want to deal with. EVO, Wackamole, Segasaturnshitheel, etc, or noobs. All the good buyers will go elsewhere.
