I guess it's my turn to chime in here. I really don't care to trash Mishran's rep around here, because from what I have read around here elsewhere prior, he had a good selling / buying record, though that is not what I have experienced. I think right now he needs to calm down and think over what he has done before he continues selling. This whole thing is stemming from being desperate about his car and personal life issues, which is none of anyone's concern here, but none the less, actions about treating people you are trying to sell to, should not be stressed over a measly vehicle, when there are plenty more out there - it's not even worth arguing over, and all of this turned into an unnecessary mess fast.
I just sent him a PM pretty much now completely declining the transaction due to his lack of remorse in all of this situation, and myself just no longer feeling comfortable in all of this. The thing is, it shouldn't have come to this, and there is absolutely no reason why I shouldn't be having a 4 slot being packed up soon and on it's way to me, if it were not for Mishran's behavior.
I'm not going to post everything, but I will rewind a bit to let everyone know how this went. My status on all of this is pretty much whatever. If Mishran relaxes down the road, I would consider starting over again and buying something from him, but not with the way he's acting now.
Anyway, summary goes:
We talked for a bit after I saw the thread and I said I was interested in the 4 slot, asked for a photo of the bottom of the board and asked if he was going to sell anymore other arcade stuff (this was before the Hyper Neo 64 and games were up, as well as all the MVS carts). Few PMs later and talking, I got his Paypal address, and sent him the $100 as requested (normal payment), and sent him my address in the PM as well (as requested); keep in mind, he never said anything about it being a gift payment, and he had yet to make a mention in the thread about gift payment only - had this been posted I would have inquired and likely declined - Everyone knows the rule on this one, and Mike even mentioned it a few posts back about this being common on forums. Keep in mind, the photos of the bottom of the 4 slot never got sent and I never got an answer about if he had anything else to sell twice, he just ignored the questions and told me everything was fine on the 4 slot, no scratches, nicks, etc. - which given his status, I trusted and went with.
He gets the money, sends me a PM back:
« Sent to: quoth09 on: June 28, 2013, 04:09:10 PM »
Payment received bro! I'll get it shipped out ASAP and get you a tracking #.Then, 13 hours later, without saying anything was wrong:
« Sent to: quoth09 on: Today at 01:01:28 AM »
Gifting was not used so I lost money due to the transfer. This needs corrected before I will ship anything out. Please pm me ASAP!Not a message of: "hey do you mind paying the fees on this?" or "hey sorry I forgot to ask for gift payment", or something similar.
Anyway, I reply back with this:
You never mentioned anything about how to send the payment, I will pay for the fees, but sorry I don't send gift payments on things I purchase unless I know the person directly/personally.
We can do one of 2 things:
1. Refund me the $100 and I will resend the payment with extra and have the fees paid on my end.
2. Send me a screencap of the Paypal payment received screen where it shows the amount it took out and I will send you that as a separate payment.
The 2nd one is probably easier for both of us.
Thanks.
BTW- The Hyper Neo 64 you put up I would have bought, but I just spent that money on other stuff tonight - that's why I asked you prior if you were going to sell other arcade stuff and you never answered me.He then refunds my money and replies back with this:
Quote from: quoth09 on Today at 02:57:49 AM
sorry I don't send gift payments on things I purchase unless I know the person directly/personally
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Kinda funny since its a double edge sword. You could easily say that you never received the item to PayPal. They refund you the money and I'm out a board and the money. So one of us could be f*cked on either end.
I'm refunding the money, but don't bother sending it back I got a guy who was inquiring about it who I've dealt with many times in the past and knows I can be trusted.
Guess l'll follow your course on here from now on and deal only with people I know directly/personally.Notice I gave him 2 options to do, with the 2nd one being WAY easier than the first - all of this could have been resolved with him showing me how much the fees were. I would have sent a gift payment for THOSE.
Notice he also plainly told me to not bother sending it back...which in turn relinquishes me of said transaction.
Also, he quoted my previous message and only the portion of me saying I don't send gift payments, pretty much ignoring everything else I said.
Not to mention going off on some thing about saying I could say I never received the package to PayPal...what? No, sending a NORMAL payment screws over no one...not to mention "and get you a tracking #" - which is what PayPal goes off of. No sense made.
Also, thread on here was changed to pretty much jab at me with "EDIT: Nevermind, if you can't trust me, I can't trust you. Gift payment only." and "I need the payment for my items to be either gifted, or you pay the fee." - with "you pay the fee" marked out. Keep in mind, this was posted AFTER I sent payment.
After that I sent him a long message pretty much saying that I was trying to resolve this situation and not sure where this distrust was coming from, pretty much reiterating everything I have mentioned in this whole post. I won't bother posting it here because I'm trying to make this post as short as possible.
I then get a reply back shortly after, which keep in mind, I never once cursed/cussed at Mishran for anything, nor am I offended by such. Besides, I'm the last one to hold off on going off on anyone for a reason when they deserve it. The last place you want to be doing something like that though, is in a PM regarding business when the person that you are dealing with is trying to amicably resolve the situation, but I got this:
« Sent to: quoth09 on: Today at 08:00:59 AM »
Listen, I'm on a limited time frame here. I don't have time for f*cking distrust and f*cking crybaby bullshit. What I put up on my thread is not against you, but to make clear to the rest how I'm doing it now. It my thread, MY sale, MY RULES.
I made this thing right by refunding your f*cking money. You can go bitch to the prof about this, I don't give a damn. I just need to sell my shit and save my f*cking car. End of discussion.15 minutes later, I get the photos of the bottom of the 4 slot, as requested prior to even sending the payment. LOL
For those that didn't catch it and wonder where it went from there, the top of the post on here has me saying I sent him a PM pretty much now completely declining the transaction due to his lack of remorse in all of this situation, and myself just no longer feeling comfortable in all of this.
So that ladies and gentlemen is how it went down and how I was treated. Mishran lost a quick $350 sale due to his inability to communicate properly and his attitude. $100 on the 4 slot and $250 on the Hyper Neo 64 with the games, not to mention possibly the Puzzle de Pon complete kit ($?) had he actually sold it, and anything else he may sell off here soon. Anyone that knows me, knows how much money I spend on stuff when I have interest.
Anyway, I'm done here and like I said at the top of the message prior "My status on all of this is pretty much whatever. If Mishran relaxes down the road, I would consider starting over again and buying something from him, but not with the way he's acting now." I'm hoping that Mishran takes this as a learning lesson on how to not treat people in the future.
Good luck with your sales Mishran, and if you decide on eBay, good luck on that as well, where you will likely have a delayed payment by someone that will be more likely to pull a fast one on you, and you will now end up paying even more fees that you can't charge the buyer, not to mention you will end up getting less than $100 for the 4 slot, because they go for around $100 on there, not over that.
BTW- Magician lord doesn't go for $80 on eBay so not sure where you heard that, but nice sales skills. I didn't want to tell you that, but hey you gotta learn sometime.
Also, none of my business, but I just have to ask even though I won't be around to read it, however maybe you can provide some insight for those that are afraid to ask: wondering what is SOOOOO special about that specific car that you have to have THAT specific one to drive to work? If it's a custom mod, I wouldn't want to be driving that to work, wearing it out. Besides, if it is a custom job and you are trying that hard to impress your co-workers, that should tell you a lot about yourself and possibly other things.
There are tons of far more economical options out there, not sure what what is so special about that specific one that you absolutely HAVE to get it from your wife if you are getting a divorce. If she is fighting you over it, there is a quick solution to it...go wreck it, possibly into her car and then problem solved. She won't be trying to get it from you anymore, and you can go get another one she can't take. Sounds like you married a real winner and you are letting her rub off of on you in your transactions.
Seriously, chin up/best of luck and stop acting like an ass to people that don't deserve it - seen too many people acting like you do, not thinking things out in situations like this and it bites them in the ass, much like what has happened here. Divorce is not the end of your life, go ask people that have already been through it.
