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[spenoza]

Most of the time though, you can accomplish the same look and effect using table tags as opposed to divs+css. Most of the time. It's always funny as hell to watch the geek shit hit the fan when your layout and design is flawless and then they find out that you did it with tables... the praise immediately turns to scorn. I love that show of hypocrisy.

Hey, a good looking page doesn't look good because of the code used to build it, necessarily. It looks good because of the design ethic that went into it.

[Arkhan]

tables are cooler than stupid ass flashdoodlercsscrap

[DragonmasterDan]

Is there a reason for the picture of the Catbus on the front page?

[Arkhan]

Yeah, I put it in my blogpost update because I felt like it. 


The news update on Aetherbyte pulls the latest 3 posts from aetherbyte.blogspot.com

[sunteam_paul]

You need to post your updates on your Facebook page as well, so I can reshare them via the Homebrew page. Spread the word!


Also, the Facebook logo on the About page is not displaying correctly.

I always forget to update the FB page.

and whats wrong with your logo?   It looks ok here.  Screenshot?

It seems to be working now so don't worry. Must have been them.

[Arkhan]

LETS KILL THEM.

[sunteam_paul]

[Arkhan]

exactly.

[spenoza]

tables are cooler than stupid ass flashdoodlercsscrap

I agree about Flash. Not about CSS. But again, I have nothing against tables. They are as robust as they are because there was a time when that was the only tool.

[roflmao]

Yeah, Flash has it's place, but it's way too overused in websites that shouldn't use it.  But I *LOVE* CSS.  Once you get the hang of it, it kicks tables' ass.

This book:
http://www.amazon.com/CSS-Missing-David-Sawyer-McFarland/dp/0596802447/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1314065334&sr=1-1
helped convert me.  Bet training book I've ever read (and I've tried a lot).

EDIT: Of course, tables are still the best for putting, y'know tables on the web.

[nodtveidt]

EDIT: Of course, tables are still the best for putting, y'know tables on the web.

Of course, I've seen people even get *that* wrong.

[roflmao]

Yep, everyone thinks they're a web programmer. Probably because it's so easy to learn the basics... and it's so easy to learn poor habits that work for simple sites but don't scale well.

[Arkhan]

I think the whole term "web programmer" is kind of retarded sometimes.  It's cool if you're actually programming, but somehow it ends up applying to people that sit and make webpages in dreamweaver without ever coding anything. 

Drag + Drop != programming!

I also find CSS to be really annoying.  Not that I find HTML to be any better.  Its all annoying/boring to me.  I like tables though. Even though I suck at them.  Arranging visuals isn't my strong suit.

HTML5 might be awesome though.

[roflmao]

I hear ya.  While Dreamweaver's auto-complete feature can come in handy, I often found DW's "Drag + Drop" code to be much too long winded and css to be too non-descriptive; I prefer to hand code my work these days using a text editor (Notepad ++).  Can people that rely on software such as Dreamweaver to do their coding for them actually be considered "web programmers"?  I don't think so. 

Of course with awesome open source frameworks like Wordpress and Joomla available, php is really where it's at. 

[nodtveidt]

WordPress is hackable and Joomla is craptastic... hehe.