Dragon Saber....

[shubibiman]

-The hit box is ridiculous.

Agree with that, even for an oldschool shooter.

-mandatory hits (Any good shmup does not force you to get hit).

I really don't see what you mean.

-being stuck in a wall leads to instant death (other GOOD shooters make you invincible, so you can pass through the wall).

This is quite common in oldschool shooters featuring walls.

-you speed down when your hit! (Good luck at the final boss)

Very common thing.

-They do not heal you after you beat a level.

Quite common even though I agree it's frustrating.

-Some weapons do NOT hurt the boss, unless you in a specific position.

You mean the bombs? Of course you have to hit the target, it's aprt of the gameplay. The game makes you get near the bosses in order to be able to beat them. I don't see what's wrong with that.

[Otaking]

Dragon Saber is on my to play list, I've only played into the first couple of levels.
But I've played all the way through Dragon Spirit, I thought that was a good game.

[geise]

If you want to see real 'worst episode evah!' shooties, go play something like Toilet Kids or Toy Shop Boys

Oh so now we're hating on real shooters?  Bitch, please...

[Necromancer]

Oh so now we're hating on real shooters?  Bitch, please...

Ya got me.  Those two are clearly top notch shooties on par with Soldier Blade and Blazing Lazers.

[geise]

You know it!  O:)

[Senshi]

Don't ever play ninja gaiden 

[ddd1234]

Don't ever play ninja gaiden 

Too late, already beaten NG 1-2 on my Nes and NG 3 on my Famicom.

[majors]

I've beaten 52 Pc-engine shooters (quality ones), ...

You keep a spreadsheet or are you savant?

I'm on team-Spirit/Saber-is-good!

[ddd1234]

-mandatory hits (Any good shmup does not force you to get hit).

Would be nice if you actually read my last post.

This is quite common in oldschool shooters featuring walls.

This has hit points. So no excuse for this.
Elemental Master allows you to pass through walls.
So do some shmups that grant temp shields.

Very common thing.

I don't know what kinda shooters you play, But I never came across a shooter that takes away your speed with damage.

Quite common even though I agree it's frustrating.

Maybe, although I never came across one like this. But they should have been more generous with health, considering how frustrating the game is.

You mean the bombs? Of course you have to hit the target, it's aprt of the gameplay. The game makes you get near the bosses in order to be able to beat them. I don't see what's wrong with that.

I picked up the light blue power up, the one that allows you to shoot homing waves. I could not hurt the boss head on, and I had to stay near the top screen so those stupid waves can hit his weak point. What the heck was that s**t? So stupid, considering I could hurt him head on with any other power up.

[ddd1234]

You keep a spreadsheet or are you savant?

http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/29/my-collection--0-0-100-name-asc-0.htm  (red dots beside the name indicate that i've beaten the game ON MY system)

[Senshi]

Don't ever play ninja gaiden 

Too late, already beaten NG 1-2 on my Nes and NG 3 on my Famicom.

haha....well then you can definitely beat dragon saber I would think.

[ddd1234]

I'll try again. But honestly, these overlooked design flaws have killed my motivation. It will take some time before I consider going back to it.

[Tatsujin]

ROLPH!

[Arkhan]

Don't ever play ninja gaiden 

Yeah ninja gaiden wasnt a very good shooter

I mean you can't even fly.



dragon saber is great though.  I really like both those games.  Haters = sissies.

[Senshi]

I mentioned ninja gaiden because it is one of the most unfair games i've ever played. so