Steve Jobs is iDead

[Arkhan]

Meh.  Seems like Jobs is the kind of guy I would've hated if I met him in person.  His early video game stories and his apparent lack of true technical skills also make me think he's given more credit than he should receive too.

Though I will agree with those who said it before me, cancer sucks.

I don't know who does Apple's advertising, but that's the true king of that company.

He stomped around Atari barefoot being a dirty hippy, calling people dumbasses or whatever.

and then Wozniak did all the real work for him. 

All steve did was find the people who knew how to do shit, and conned them into doing it for his LSD revolution horse shit.

1 BUTTON MICE MAN, IM CONDUCTING CLASSICAL MUSIC.

[geise]

I didn't care for Steve Jobs, but I sure as shit didn't want the man to die of cancer.  I find it kind of f*cked up people here wish harm on someone that they've never met.  What I want to know though is if people are going to make as big of a fuss when Wozniac ever passes on?

[DragonmasterDan]

I didn't care for Steve Jobs, but I sure as shit didn't want the man to die of cancer.  I find it kind of f*cked up people here wish harm on someone that they've never met.  What I want to know though is if people are going to make as big of a fuss when Wozniac ever passes on?

Wozniac is a far more likable figure in my opinion. But far too many people fell for Steve Jobs reality distortion field and bought into the hype around the man. So I suspect Wozniac won't be as fondly remembered.

[grahf]

Woz used to have the high score for Gameboy Tetris for years. If anyone has any old Nintendo Powers, check it out. I'll remember him for that, because that was the first place I ever saw him.

[DragonmasterDan]

Woz used to have the high score for Gameboy Tetris for years. If anyone has any old Nintendo Powers, check it out. I'll remember him for that, because that was the first place I ever saw him.

They quit taking his scores so he started submitting them as Evets Kainzow, his name backwards.

[geise]

Haha that's great!   

[MotherGunner]

Holy shit that went way past my head.  I remember that!  I feel like a dumbass now.

[nat]

Woz used to have the high score for Gameboy Tetris for years. If anyone has any old Nintendo Powers, check it out. I'll remember him for that, because that was the first place I ever saw him.

I'll remember Woz as the genius that created the variable speed floppy disk controller that was able to provide access to the entire 800k storage capacity of a DS/DD 3.5" disk.

It always pissed me off that DS/DD disks in the PC world were limited to 720k.

[Arkhan]

Woz used to have the high score for Gameboy Tetris for years. If anyone has any old Nintendo Powers, check it out. I'll remember him for that, because that was the first place I ever saw him.

I'll remember Woz as the genius that created the variable speed floppy disk controller that was able to provide access to the entire 800k storage capacity of a DS/DD 3.5" disk.

It always pissed me off that DS/DD disks in the PC world were limited to 720k.

Even before that stroke of genius, Disk II is one of the greatest feats of engineering ever made. 

Yknow, Apple started sucking when Wozniak stopped engineering the crap. The stuff from the glory days of 8 bit computing by Apple was pretty badass.

He's what I think of when I think of Apple.

When I think of Steve Jobs, I think of turtlenecks, douchebags, and stupid hardware that should be thrown against a wall.

[grahf]

I think the only pieces of Apple hardware I've owned were a 4th gen (b&w) 20GB iPod, which was f*cking awesome. Got it used for $175, and that thing lasted me about 3 years. Since then I've just used my phone for music.  The other piece of Apple hardware I've owned was a bluetooth Mighty Mouse. It was great at first, mostly because it was the first wireless mouse I every owned. After a while though I realized it was a piece of shit. What a terrible design.

I do think most Apple hardware is OK. The Mac mini is a cool little machine, for example. But for the most part it's all just too overpriced.

[Arkhan]

You're paying for the douche-factor of owning a mac, and all of the appliance like shiny white trim on everything.  It's not like you're paying for top notch hardware.  You can get an IBM compatible for less that does more.  Crazy.

the iMac is a ripoff anyways.  I had a PC that looked like that back when Pentium 1 was state of the art.  Back then, Apple was still cranking out creamy towers/desktops.



I had one of these back when I was in 4th grade (1997),and played the shit out of D&D/M&M/Wizardry games on it.

Most of Apples innovations in the outward appearance department are ripoffs.  Jobs would just use his cult status/money/douchefactor marketing to make people think it was fresh and new, and that everyone needs to have it.

The real innovation was what was INSIDE the thing.  Once Wozniak left, that went out the window though.

Apple is responsible for Ultima's success (Akalabeth was done on an Apple II), but what's funny is right when Wozniak left Apple (late 80s) is about when OSI stopped with the Ultima for Apple.  Ultima VI never hit the Apple II, but it hit the C64!

granted, it blew dick on the C64, it still reached it.  late 80s/early 90s DOS is awesome. 

[Joe Redifer]

OK Arkhan you appear perhaps a bit too butthurt about Apple.  Not liking their shit is one thing, but DAMN dude, did they piss in your Cheerios or something?  You seem obsessed.  Apple has obviously affected you a great deal.

Like their products or not, they sell quite well which is the goal of any company.  You cannot fault them for having amazing sales figures.

[vestcoat]

OK Arkhan you appear perhaps a bit too butthurt about Apple.  Not liking their shit is one thing, but DAMN dude, did they piss in your Cheerios or something?  You seem obsessed.  Apple has obviously affected you a great deal.

I'm guessing it's because he's going to college right now.  It really sucks being surrounded by idiots with fifteen-hundred-dollar fashion accessories...*ahem* - I mean MacBook Pros, especially if you actually know anything about computers.

[TheClash603]

Amazing sales figures = Marketing, and nothing more.

The power of propaganda is an amazing thing.  Just got done watching Ken Burns' Prohabition, which was a great look at historical propoganda.  When people look back at Apple in business classes 50 years from now, what will be discussed is their marketing machine.

[Necromancer]

Amazing sales figures = Marketing, and nothing more.

I'm anything but an Apple zealot, but I'll give credit where it's due: there's more to 'em than marketing.  OSX is a fine OS (arguably better than Windows in many respects), much of their hardware is very well designed and easy to use, and price isn't terribly ridiculous as long as you're comparing apples to apples (pun not intended) for of both hardware specs and design.  The only place where Apple really falls down is that they have nothing that competes with entry level desktops/laptops and they offer meager customization options.