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Re: Energy
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2011, 03:22:48 AM »
Nothing wrong with the MSX, PC88, or PC98 for games, as long as they aren't scrolling games.
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Re: Energy
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2011, 03:25:40 AM »
The scrolling games aren't even bad.  People just can't get over the jerkyscrolling .


and FWIW, alot of games overcame the scrolling issues.  Gulkave was smooth as shit and its an MSX1 game.
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Re: Energy
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2011, 03:38:40 AM »
Yeah, that video you linked was too chunky for me. You may think chunky scrolling isn't a problem, but it is for a lot of folks. I think games that were designed in a room or screen-based fashion worked much better on the MSX, and other early PCs. Smooth scrolling makes action and shooting games much better.
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Re: Energy
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2011, 03:52:59 AM »
I don't get what the problem is though. It's not like the sprites are chugging along too.
I'll agree the screen to screen games are better usually , like Drasle Family on MSX2 is better than NES for that simple reason (It's easier to keep bearings on hand drawn maps).
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Re: Energy
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2011, 04:18:06 AM »
Yeah, that video you linked was too chunky for me.

Agreed. I felt like I was watching Xevious 2; Revenge of Drywall

But again, That's not a reason to completely throw the system out the window. The music and color pallette of the MSX 2 are impressive. And the fact that its so damn obscure that by simply owning one you are l33t and part of the mini-club.

The scrolling for Energy is hard to get through. It's like a miniature intermission every time you change screens. You could eat popcorn, do homework, catch up on your taxes, do the brakes on your car, or write another book for the bible. Maybe in the extra time, you could fix a system with parallax. That said, It has virtually no redeeming qualities, other than the cover art which is fair to midland.

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Re: Energy
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2011, 05:15:32 AM »
I actually don't have any problem with the MSX. It was just a joke.

I also think Energy is worth $5 just for the cover. Its a great cover.

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Re: Energy
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2011, 06:03:02 AM »
Yeah, that video you linked was too chunky for me.

Agreed. I felt like I was watching Xevious 2; Revenge of Drywall

But again, That's not a reason to completely throw the system out the window. The music and color pallette of the MSX 2 are impressive. And the fact that its so damn obscure that by simply owning one you are l33t and part of the mini-club.

The scrolling for Energy is hard to get through. It's like a miniature intermission every time you change screens. You could eat popcorn, do homework, catch up on your taxes, do the brakes on your car, or write another book for the bible. Maybe in the extra time, you could fix a system with parallax. That said, It has virtually no redeeming qualities, other than the cover art which is fair to midland.

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Re: Energy
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2011, 06:12:56 AM »
I was at a friend's house and he was playing something on MSX that looked like uh...I don't know. It was like a fantasy version of Ikari or something. It was pretty cool, honestly. I think it was from Konami, maybe?

This MSX was also hacked to output VGA, which is very very cool.

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Re: Energy
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2011, 06:57:12 AM »
I was at a friend's house and he was playing something on MSX that looked like uh...I don't know. It was like a fantasy version of Ikari or something. It was pretty cool, honestly. I think it was from Konami, maybe?

This MSX was also hacked to output VGA, which is very very cool.


That was probably Knightmare

or maybe Hinotori Firebird

Both by KONAMI

MSX is probably the greatest gaming computer from that era.  The library owns.

[Fri 19:34]<nectarsis> been wanting to try that one for awhile now Ope
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Re: Energy
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2011, 08:35:00 AM »
Again, I have no problem with the MSX. I just don't like the jerky background scrolling. Even if the sprite movements are smooth, they move smoothly across a jerky background. I would play MSX games that use room to room or perhaps RPGs, but I wouldn't play an action-based scrolling game. It is hard for me to look at.
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Re: Energy
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2011, 09:37:25 AM »
Agreed. I felt like I was watching Xevious 2; Revenge of Drywall

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Re: Energy
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2011, 10:09:23 AM »
There is no Energy game on the MSX (or if there is, I sure haven't seen it), and I'm the one who said it's worth it for the cover art.  

Oh dear, I meant Ashe on PC-88! I want to look at the screenshot comparisons between Ashe and Energy that some kind person posted here a few moons ago.

The MSX wasn't half the computer PC-88 was, so I'm surprised I made such a careless error in my post.  
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Re: Energy
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2011, 11:28:09 AM »
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Re: Energy
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2011, 01:09:14 PM »
I was at a friend's house and he was playing something on MSX that looked like uh...I don't know. It was like a fantasy version of Ikari or something. It was pretty cool, honestly. I think it was from Konami, maybe?

This MSX was also hacked to output VGA, which is very very cool.


That was probably Knightmare


or maybe Hinotori Firebird


Both by KONAMI

MSX is probably the greatest gaming computer from that era.  The library owns.




It was Nightmare. I thought it was pretty cool. The levels were stupidly long though.

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Re: Energy
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2011, 02:55:54 PM »
Oh dear, I meant Ashe on PC-88! I want to look at the screenshot comparisons between Ashe and Energy that some kind person posted here a few moons ago.

The MSX wasn't half the computer PC-88 was, so I'm surprised I made such a careless error in my post. 



I dunno.  The MSX is not a computer to be taken lightly!


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