Progress on Project MONOLITH... some technical mumbo jumbo inside

[nodtveidt]

Paul really knows how to utilize color range to maximum effect. The actual unique color count in the forest is quite low (51 colors in that shot, that includes the hud and character sprite). The village, on the other hand... although it looks a bit "busy" at times, the color diversity looks low at first glance. However, the actual unique color count is rather high, exceeding 80 most of the time for the inclusive scene.

[Arkhan]

Paul is a shading mastermind.  Look at the crap he pulled off in the Atlantean screenshots too! (That look kinda crapass in an emulator, to be honest).


We have a new secret weapon in OBEYbrew land, and his name is Sunteam_Paul.

Look out Segatards.

[nodtveidt]

So I'm wondering what to do about the jump sound... maybe make it more like Exile's?

[ParanoiaDragon]

So I'm wondering what to do about the jump sound... maybe make it more like Exile's?

Hmm, IIRC, that's more of a subtle woosh type sound....for lack of a better term?  Or it's some kind of quiet clicking sound, that might be a more accurate description?  That does seem like a good idea.  Maybe that jump sound will end up being better used in VM instead.  It seemed less noticeable in that from what I recall.

As for ME, that stinks, oh well.

[nodtveidt]

ME doesn't tend to like anything I code, lol. It really shows its weaknesses.

The original jump sample in Monolith was copied from VM, and is also present in JB. I'll replace it with something more subtle. I don't want Monolith to completely lose its cartoon appeal, of course, but maybe making the samples a bit more serious might help the overall tone... the graphics aren't all that cartooney so it might be more fitting to take the samples in a different direction.

[Arkhan]

the jump effect is too long. thats the problem. It sounds more like a noise when you land on a slime than anything.

[ParanoiaDragon]

Hmmmmm, you may be right, maybe it could stay the same but sped up.

[Arkhan]

Or make it a quieter/less dry noise.

wet jump noises work better.

[Black Tiger]

It probably just sounds weird to some people since jump sound effects are usually used in more cartoony games and more serious looking games like this tend to only use landing or step off sound effects.

[nodtveidt]

Hrm... that's true... though I experimented with removing the jump sample altogether and something just didn't seem right about it... but maybe it'd be welcomed by others.

[Arkhan]

the jump noise isn't necessary if you are ok with removing it.

Zelda II has no jump sounds.


and when you say "jump sample", do you mean you are using ADPCM for the jump sound?  use teh PSGGGG-unit.

[sunteam_paul]

The jump sound doesn't bother me at all, but having no jump sound would.

Perhaps go the route of games like City Hunter, Cross Wiber and Daimakaimura and have simple white noise effects for jumping and landing.

I think people are mostly noticing it because they are watching a video with lots of jumping rather than concentrating on playing the game.

[nodtveidt]

Ark, the jump sound is from the PSG, but it's still made of samples, hence sample. ADPCM is used sparingly in Monolith; the sword attack sound and the level up sound are ADPCM but for now, that's it. Everything else is PSG-based.

[Arkhan]

Ark, the jump sound is from the PSG, but it's still made of samples, hence sample. ADPCM is used sparingly in Monolith; the sword attack sound and the level up sound are ADPCM but for now, that's it. Everything else is PSG-based.

Why are you using samples for that.  just set a 32 byte waveform (sine or squareish), and make a jump sound...

or are you being a nitpicking twat and you mean "hurhurhurhrrrr the waveforms are ALL samples hrurhuhurrrururururhrur"

[nodtveidt]

Why are you using samples for that.  just set a 32 byte waveform (sine or squareish), and make a jump sound...

Dude, wtf do you think it is? "Just make a jump sound"... yeah, "just make a game" while yer at it.