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incrediblehark

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2012, 02:26:01 AM »
Still have to try caps on pins 42 and 43 good to hear it worked for you!

thesteve

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #76 on: February 07, 2012, 06:26:39 AM »
1 cap between 42 and 43
the shorter the wires the better

HercTNT

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #77 on: February 07, 2012, 12:15:11 PM »
shorter wires the better.........grrrr. Now i gotta do the ceramic cap again. I left the wires long cause i was having a hard time holding the cap.

Edit: Ok, I scared the hell outta myself when i almost pulled a trace removing the ceramic cap. I fixed it, shortened the wires on the cap to about 3/8" and resoldered. so far so good.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 02:39:40 PM by HercTNT »

PunkicCyborg

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #78 on: March 04, 2012, 01:15:06 PM »
I can confirm that I too have jailbars with my RGB modded duo from DoujinDance on ebay. The colors and picture looks great but yeah you do notice the faint jailbars on lighter solid color screens.
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incrediblehark

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #79 on: March 09, 2012, 09:10:23 AM »
I still haven't tried the extra capping between 42 and 43, every time i open the system the region switch wires pull apart and it annoys me so I've been putting it off.

incrediblehark

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #80 on: March 15, 2012, 07:26:14 AM »
Is the cap on pins 42/43 supposed to make my picture brighter? I have been messing around and got the picture way too bright, colors washed out, but no interference/jailbars. I tried to since recreate that or tone it down using a different cap but no luck. Looks like I may just need the full cap replacement next.

thesteve

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #81 on: March 15, 2012, 07:36:50 AM »
it will make the pic slightly brighter, as it stabilizes the output stage of the chip.
odds are you bridged it to 5V as it should be slightly below 5V

incrediblehark

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #82 on: March 15, 2012, 07:57:59 AM »
ok i thought i must have screwed something up when it was like that. yeah after i rechecked my soldering there wasn;t much change in picture.

HercTNT

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #83 on: March 15, 2012, 11:46:00 AM »
neither cap by themselves made a huge difference for me, but both of them made a noticable difference.

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #84 on: June 08, 2012, 11:58:22 AM »


Hi everyone.

I finally got round to starting an RGB mod on my PC Engine DUO, well actually I did a 5 Pin DIN to 8 Pin DIN swap a year or 2 ago - may be more (this mod has been in the works for 10 years I'm sure  :oops:)

I made the RGB 8 Pin to Euro SCART yesterday,

And today wired the HU6260 to 3 RGB wires, and then wired the backside of the 8 Pin DIN Socket to 3 more RGB wires, the idea being the RGB amp goes in the middle of the 2 lots of wires.

Shielded cables used all the way - I only want to do this once, and do it right!

As soldering onto the HU chip took a while (i.e. bl***y difficult) - I left things at that.

Except I couldn't resist joining up the 2 internal sets of RGB wires that were meant to be the in / out from the yet to be made RGB amp (which will be NJM2267 based) :lol:

The picture was actually pretty good, not dark in any way, but I did notice jailbars on large areas of solid colour. I need to put a switch in my SCART so I can flip quickly from C-VIDEO and RGB to do a really good back to back comparison of colours, so I'll pass on that for now.

Now the NJM2267 RGB amp may well reduce the jailbar effect, but if there is anything else worth doing now, I'll give it a go. Like I said, I want to do this to the absolute best quality I can, even if the improvements are minimal.

From what I understand, its possible to stick a Capacitor across the power input of the HU chip, to smooth out its power feed?

I think this is what is being suggested here http://baku.homeunix.net/RGB/PCE_DuoRX/PCE_DuoRX.html#add-passcon - any Japanese speakers please translate!

Also - someone suggested a CAP mod in this thread too.

Could anyone (preferably someone who has actually done it) let me know what CAPs I need, and between where?

Any other worthwhile tweeks, please let me know.

thanks!

thesteve

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #85 on: June 08, 2012, 03:06:31 PM »
just from the pic's in the jap thread, i can tell you this thread is the english equiv.
the pins are the same.
the shorter the leads the better. (ceramic chip across the pins of the chip is ideal)

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #86 on: June 08, 2012, 06:06:11 PM »
just from the pic's in the jap thread, i can tell you this thread is the english equiv.
the pins are the same.
the shorter the leads the better. (ceramic chip across the pins of the chip is ideal)

OK - so what CAP across what Pins?

thesteve

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #87 on: June 08, 2012, 06:25:10 PM »
i have some 22uf size 1206 SMD ceramic caps that work great.
you could get away with about anything (preferably ceramic or tantalum)

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #88 on: June 08, 2012, 11:40:15 PM »
i have some 22uf size 1206 SMD ceramic caps that work great.
you could get away with about anything (preferably ceramic or tantalum)


Sorry if I'm being dumb - but across what should the CAPs be placed?

This thread mentions HU6260 PINs 41 and 42 as ground, but here it says they are +5Volts:

http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=schematics:hu6260_netlist

thesteve

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Re: Can anyone improve the rgb output on my duo?
« Reply #89 on: June 09, 2012, 08:25:08 AM »
now i will have to look again. (5V it is) doesnt matter with ceramics
pin43 is the one you care about.