Faussete Amour

[arromdee]

To me, this is the point where burning CDs comes in.  Let's face it, the original developer and company isn't going to make any money when a $75 copy of this game gets sold on ebay anyway, and if you're getting it just to play the game it's probably not going to be worth $75 compared to something else you can get for $75 (especially if you play modern games at all).  And if you burn a CD you're still playing it on the original hardware, unlike emulation.

[Bernie]

To me, this is the point where burning CDs comes in.  Let's face it, the original developer and company isn't going to make any money when a $75 copy of this game gets sold on ebay anyway, and if you're getting it just to play the game it's probably not going to be worth $75 compared to something else you can get for $75 (especially if you play modern games at all).  And if you burn a CD you're still playing it on the original hardware, unlike emulation.

True that..  But I want the actual game... 

[Black Tiger]

If you like the extremely limited grappling gameplay of Bionic Commando and have always wanted to play a game that doesn't hold back with it, then you'll love FA. You jump and swing like a good Castlevania game, only grappling more often than hitting enemies. It plays like Daimakaimura, in chunks that get challenging at times and can require some planning to get through. The aesthetics are pretty good, but it feels like it's lacking a final polish to tie it all together. It is the gameplay that is most memorable for me and what kept me pushing through the game. Definitely worth $75 if you spend that kind of money on PCE games and already have the heavy hitters like Drac X, Star Parodia, etc.

To me, this is the point where burning CDs comes in.  Let's face it, the original developer and company isn't going to make any money when a $75 copy of this game gets sold on ebay anyway, and if you're getting it just to play the game it's probably not going to be worth $75 compared to something else you can get for $75 (especially if you play modern games at all).  And if you burn a CD you're still playing it on the original hardware, unlike emulation.

Modern games aren't worth full retail price. Especially when they will sell new for $20 - $30 or less within months. For those who can appreciate 16-bit games, modern games have paled in comparison for many years now. Copied games aren't the same as the real deal, especially the average downloadable CD image. A complete game is still a work of art. There isn't no point in collecting and reading old books and magazines and the same goes for video games. Playing a cdr of a game to try it out in cases like this is still a great idea, but that doesn't mean that it's a waste of money to buy a game for the price of a game.

[vestcoat]

FA is an above-average platformer.  Graphics, music, and play control are all well-executed and it has enough quirks to give it character.  The negative reviews occur because people get pissed off when an expensive game isn't A) dazzling, or B) groundbreaking.  As good as it is, FA is neither.

[nectarsis]

FA is an above-average platformer.  Graphics, music, and play control are all well-executed and it has enough quirks to give it character.  The negative reviews occur because people get pissed off when an expensive game isn't A) dazzling, or B) groundbreaking.  As good as it is, FA is neither.

That and most "don't give it a chance" or play long enough to appreciate it.

[arromdee]

Modern games aren't worth full retail price. Especially when they will sell new for $20 - $30 or less within months. For those who can appreciate 16-bit games, modern games have paled in comparison for many years now. Copied games aren't the same as the real deal, especially the average downloadable CD image. A complete game is still a work of art.

But the question wasn't "is $75 worth it as a work of art", the question was "is $75 worth the play value".  If you want play value, burn a CD.  If you want the artistic merit of having all the parts, sure, pay the $75.  I personally would not pay $75 just for the artistic merit.

As for modern games, sure they go down in price in a few months.  Buy yourself three modern games that are a few months old.  Or just get Pier Solar (for Genesis) or Mysterious Song or one of the new Dreamcast games; none of them are $75.

[Necromancer]

But the question wasn't "is $75 worth it as a work of art", the question was "is $75 worth the play value".

No, the question was "is it worth playing".  It definitely is.

[Black Tiger]

Modern games aren't worth full retail price. Especially when they will sell new for $20 - $30 or less within months. For those who can appreciate 16-bit games, modern games have paled in comparison for many years now. Copied games aren't the same as the real deal, especially the average downloadable CD image. A complete game is still a work of art.

But the question wasn't "is $75 worth it as a work of art", the question was "is $75 worth the play value".  If you want play value, burn a CD.  If you want the artistic merit of having all the parts, sure, pay the $75.  I personally would not pay $75 just for the artistic merit.

Going by your "play value" logic, nothing that costs more than a cdr is worth buying. Might as well throw the whole real hardware experience out the window as well, since it doesn't offer much compared to emulation, which has many more features.

As for modern games, sure they go down in price in a few months.  Buy yourself three modern games that are a few months old.  Or just get Pier Solar (for Genesis) or Mysterious Song or one of the new Dreamcast games; none of them are $75.

What if you already own those games? I doubt that Fausette Amour is going to be anyone's first purchase. Dracula X might be for the same price though and is such a waste when there are Virtual Console and PSP releases. Pier Solar goes for $100 - $400+, unless you're lucky enough to get into a direct sale window and are patient enough for that or to find a non-gouged copy. Why not just wait even longer until it's finally ripped and supported by emulation? Why compare Fausette Amour to homebrew anyway? Because the creators earn money from a direct sale? That still leaves the rest of the published 16-bit games.

[arromdee]

Umm, Pier Solar just did a reprint.  Like days ago.  You can get it for retail price right now.

[Tatsujin]

I smell some heavy disobeying in this thread.

[SuperDeadite]

f*ckin n00bZ...

[PunkicCyborg]

Well you know if you make a $75 pce purchase like that you can always sell it for $75 if you don't like it. It's not like a new game where you spend $75 and resell it to gamestop for $15

[Black Tiger]

Umm, Pier Solar just did a reprint.  Like days ago.  You can get it for retail price right now.

$50 for a reprinted rom in a box? That's like five Halos, all of which have superior Mode 7.

[Joe Redifer]

I should clarify my comments a bit.  I think the game is an acquired taste.  Once you get a taste for it, obviously the game is good (thus putting in the effort to like it).  But again I don't think it's a game that grabs you right away, thus the lukewarm reviews. 

[Samurai Ghost]

I have to admit I can be impatient with some games. I have gotten so many titles this year that if I game doesn't grab me chances are I'll turn it off after a couple levels. But sometimes if I sit down with a game and get serious then I appreciate a game that rewards a bit of effort, which sounds like is the case for FA. Anyway, I might just go for it.

And yeah, I know I can burn a CDR easily. But I like having the actual game. I used to emulate a lot but now I very rarely if ever do. I guess I'm a purist in that sense, as a lot of you guys are. I know a perfect 1-to-1 rip of a CD game will play exactly the same, but somehow it's different. I don't know how to explain it really. Even with flash carts which play on the actual hardware, it's just not the same as popping open a box, slapping in the cart, and playing a game. The tactile and visual experience of having the actual game and packaging is just different.

I think as games go more and more towards the digital download aspect lacking any physical medium I think there will be an even bigger rift between retro/classic game players and current gen gamers. Don't get me wrong, there are great games being released all the time, but something as simple as opening and closing a Megadrive/Genesis clamshell case is enjoyable for me. Or taking out the instruction booklet and flipping through it. Am I a total weirdo?