Hey all!

[SignOfZeta]

I agree with what you are trying to say, thats why most of the things I listen to are pretty much underground.

but who gives a crap how Metallica are as human beings?

why do you care? do you go to Lars house every weekend and play Turbo Duo?

I mean who gives a flying shit what musicians are like as human beings? How does that affect you listening to their music?

Philip Anselmo is a complete piece of shit. That doesn't stop me from liking Pantera. I like some Guns and Roses eventho Axl is a complete douchebag. etc etc.

I have a hard time enjoying music made by people I know are complete dicks. I'd rather listen to bad music by good people than the opposite. People like James Brown are borderline, but Metallica are way way past the line. Character matters to me, what can I say? There is more good music made by good people than I'll ever have time to listen to in my life. I see no reason to give time to old fogey dick sellouts like Metallica, and as for actually giving them money...obviously not.

Enough of this bullshit. Can we please talk about how much Pantera and GNR suck now?

[frozenintears]

I agree with what you are trying to say, thats why most of the things I listen to are pretty much underground.

but who gives a crap how Metallica are as human beings?

why do you care? do you go to Lars house every weekend and play Turbo Duo?

I mean who gives a flying shit what musicians are like as human beings? How does that affect you listening to their music?

Philip Anselmo is a complete piece of shit. That doesn't stop me from liking Pantera. I like some Guns and Roses eventho Axl is a complete douchebag. etc etc.

I have a hard time enjoying music made by people I know are complete dicks. I'd rather listen to bad music by good people than the opposite. People like James Brown are borderline, but Metallica are way way past the line. Character matters to me, what can I say? There is more good music made by good people than I'll ever have time to listen to in my life. I see no reason to give time to old fogey dick sellouts like Metallica, and as for actually giving them money...obviously not.

Enough of this bullshit. Can we please talk about how much Pantera and GNR suck now?

how do you know that all the music you listen to is made by good people? Do you know them personally?

I bet you there is music that you listen to and love that is made by complete douchebags and dickheads.

How do you know who is really behind the artists that you like?

I mean comon, you are trying to tell me that ALL the music you listen to are great goodfy too shoo people? that they are all peachy good people?

I am by no means defending Metallica or trying to argue with you. I am just telling you that there is no way of knowing if the people who's music you love are good or bad people.

That's why its better to listen just for the music.

I don't care if Michael Jackson had steamy hot sex with little kids. Thriller is still an awesome song, and it will always be an awesome song and he made many great albums.

Really mate, who gives a f*ck who these people are in their stupid Real Life.

[HercTNT]

Frozen, you have only been here a short time and your already in a scuffle....*sniffle* they grow up so fast............
Seriously though, its good to have you aboard, and dont forget:  Despite some disagreements, the people here are really good.

[SignOfZeta]

So you'd buy a Mercedes in 1941? That's fine. I just won't buy your album.

Obviously I own music made by dickheads. I even own some stuff by Metallica. The difference is that I have been HUGELY overexposed to this band so I'm acutely aware of what dicks they are. It's unavoidable. I can't NOT know what a$$holes they are, therefore it's impossible for me to not think about it.

When I'm listening to someone's music it's like I'm inviting them into my brain to party with me. I've never met anyone from Metallica, but I'm pretty sure I couldn't stand to be in the same room with one of those pricks for 5 minutes, so why would I want to listen to one of their songs? I mean, there is a SHITLOAD of good metal out there. Hundreds of hours of the stuff. Metalica now belongs with crap like Drowning Pool and Godsmack other other white trash macho shit. Its about as "metal" as Dick Cheney.

They are not cool. People. At all. I enjoy music from 25 years ago back when they didn't suck and weren't at all rich shills for their label, but now they personally, and their music, are horrible. f*ck them.

[HercTNT]

godsmack......................  is it ok if i still like "voodoo"

[frozenintears]

Frozen, you have only been here a short time and your already in a scuffle....*sniffle* they grow up so fast............
Seriously though, its good to have you aboard, and dont forget:  Despite some disagreements, the people here are really good.

haha, we are just having a nice conversation. I know what he means and what he is trying to say, and I agree with him. I wasjust making sure some of my points also get accross.

Yeah, you guys are definitely a fun group of people. I just love some of the threads on here. Truly epic masterpieces that have me falling off my chair laughing.  All I know is that there are certain things that are not tolerated and what to say and what not to say.

There's nothing better than learning and having fun. Even if it means getting flamed a little bit.

[blueraven]

Lars and the whole Napster thing shouldn't be a reason for people to dislike Metallica.

Yes it should.

I mean, what the hell does that have anything to do with the music they make?

By asserting their right to claim "unpaid royalites" on shared songs within the file-sharing service, this led to the prosecution of several faithful Metallica fans for hundreds and thousands of dollars, and other unwitting people who happened to have Metallica songs in their shared folder, including several students. In other works, it led to them f*cking over their fans.

Just because Lars likes to wear womens panties while playing with Furby and Domokun, doesnt mean that Metallica's albums suck.

Straw man, and kind of a non-sequitur, even though it wouldn't surprise me.

I mean comon, be realistic. Yeah it all went downhill after Load and Re-Load, but for some people those were actually great albums. They are very original records. It's almost like Metallica has played 2 different original styles of music.

So Metal, and "The Symphonic Trainwreck", AKA crap. The best thing Jason Newstead ever did was quit the band and join Ozzy/Voivid where he can actually play music without the ire of the Metallica elite fanclub who were always calling him "Jason Newkid" or something else in obvious hatred as the replacement for Cliff Burton, who for some, was the glue that held the band together, and created the frenetic rhythm that everyone loved from the early days. Did you like those two records and "St. Anger" or whatever monstrosity was recorded after Hetfield got sober and recorded that shite documentary that showed how much of an arrogant contemptuous prick that he actually was? "Some Kind Of Monster?". Dude, if you need any more proof than that I can't help you.

Whenever I ask an old school metalhead what is your opinion on Metallica. I get that same shit "well, ughhh, uhh there old stuff is cool, but Load and Reload sucks, they sold out"

They are so incredibly right. I think they were the best with Dave Mustaine.

Can anyone formulate their own opinion these days?

See Above.

[chany60126]

godsmack......................  is it ok if i still like "voodoo"

Godsmack is frickin' awesome! Whatever and I Stand Alone are also kickin tunes.

[Metallica Man X]

Lulz. I go away for a while, and come back to find that there's 3 pages of trolling all because of my user name XD

Like I said, I've had the same username for a very long time, and use it on every message board I'm on...and this is the first time I've seen any trolling at all for it haha (and I've been on the Megadeth board with that name for years hahaahhahaha).

Too bad I don't see much for help in terms of a good starting spot for the TG 

Bravo people   

[Bernie]

Loaded like a freight train.....flying like an airplane.....speeding like a spacebrain one more time tonight.....   Night Train, "GN"R" 

[Shrapnoid]

Hey, wait a minute. What about Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister and the Scorpions?

[frozenintears]

They are so incredibly right. I think they were the best with Dave Mustaine.

Not really a good example since Mustaine sold out as well, later down the road with Megadeth. Risk? Cryptic Writings? I mean comon mate. Don't get me wrong I love Megadeth, but they are still pop music to me.

I listen to Old Man's Child, Immortal, Marduk, Graveland etc.

Yeah, Mustaine is pop.

[Necromancer]

Lulz. I go away for a while, and come back to find that there's 3 pages of trolling all because of my user name XD

Discussion about whether or not Metallica sucks (or is worth listening to) does not constitute trolling.

Too bad I don't see much for help in terms of a good starting spot for the TG 

Bravo people   

And a hearty bravo to you for your searching skills.  Do you really think your "what games should I look for" query is at all original?

[Arkhan]

Just because Kirk Hammett has money coming out of his sell-out arse doesnt mean he is not top 10 best Metal guitarists ever. Because clearly he is. It would be stupid to even argue about that. No point just to argue because its fun.

He's not top 10.  Not by a longshot, dude.

If you want to only count stupid popular MTV bullshit, maybe.  But, he was barely good in the 80s, and now he is a sloppy joke with his head up his ass.

[Arkhan]

Lulz. I go away for a while, and come back to find that there's 3 pages of trolling all because of my user name XD

Like I said, I've had the same username for a very long time, and use it on every message board I'm on...and this is the first time I've seen any trolling at all for it haha (and I've been on the Megadeth board with that name for years hahaahhahaha).

Too bad I don't see much for help in terms of a good starting spot for the TG 

Bravo people   

Starting point:  Cheap games.   Most games are good.  You can't really go wrong.

Blazing Lazers, China Warrior, Keith Courage, RType, Legendary Axe, Vigilante.  Get it.