Easiest Shooter of the Turbosauce?

[Black Tiger]

I don't judge difficulty simply by how hard it is to clear a game by any means necessary. I think that people shouldn't judge a game's difficulty if they're spamming continues. If you have to continue, then the game isn't easy. If you're spamming bombs and continuing, you aren't even experiencing the full game.

Has everyone who listed Magical Chase completed it on the hardest difficulty? Many games, especially shooters, have a normal mode that is balanced for the lowest common denominator, so that more people can enjoy it. Ninja Spirit may be beatable by most people in PC Engine mode, but the game was designed for one hit kills.

[Keranu]

I didn't know so many people found Magical Chase to be a cakewalk, I always thought it was one of the harder US released shooters! Maybe I'm not familiar enough with the shops, I've only beaten it on "Breeze" mode, which is like the first three levels.

[Lilgrafx]

I've never beaten a turbob shooter. The closest I've gotten to beating one is Blazers, so I'll say that.

Not to sound douchie but that kinda surprising coming from some one with 3000+ post. Do you have Air Zonk?

[munchiaz]

star parodier is a breeze. I still have yet to beat LOT. i can get to the end but i fail. I don't think spriggan is to hard either.

[nat]

I think Star Parodia is the easiest of all.

[DesmondThe3rd]

Psychosis is also another easy shooter in my opinion. Only 10 stages and a rather useful Wave weapon too.

[chany60126]

I don't judge difficulty simply by how hard it is to clear a game by any means necessary. I think that people shouldn't judge a game's difficulty if they're spamming continues. If you have to continue, then the game isn't easy. If you're spamming bombs and continuing, you aren't even experiencing the full game.

Has everyone who listed Magical Chase completed it on the hardest difficulty? Many games, especially shooters, have a normal mode that is balanced for the lowest common denominator, so that more people can enjoy it. Ninja Spirit may be beatable by most people in PC Engine mode, but the game was designed for one hit kills.

I've beaten Magical Chase on its default difficulty (Bumpy) quite a few times. It only took me 2 or 3 playthroughs to 1CC the game. The Rough difficulty is a much more enjoyable experience and it took many more playthroughs to beat it there with 1CC as enemies become more resilient. The good thing about MC is that there are so many different ways to play the game and also to challenge yourself (ie not buying certain weapons and health replenishers). I simply chose MC as an easy game to beat as most people probably reap what they can from the stores and continue as long as they wish.

[Necromancer]

I don't judge difficulty simply by how hard it is to clear a game by any means necessary. I think that people shouldn't judge a game's difficulty if they're spamming continues. If you have to continue, then the game isn't easy. If you're spamming bombs and continuing, you aren't even experiencing the full game.

Agreed.  It's not really a clear if it took a bunch of continues, though I'll make exceptions for stuff like Splash Lake.

Has everyone who listed Magical Chase completed it on the hardest difficulty? Many games, especially shooters, have a normal mode that is balanced for the lowest common denominator, so that more people can enjoy it.

I counted it as easy because it's easy on the default settings.  There's always a way to make a game harder, either with a setting, not using bombs, avoiding certain weapons, etc.

[Turbotracks]

Terraforming is another that is not terribly difficult until the final stage.  I finished it using one continue until the final stage and three on the final stage alone. 

[ddd1234]

OVERRIDE!

Had 16 lives in stock when I finished this game.

[Joe Redifer]

If you have to continue, then the game isn't easy. If you're spamming bombs and continuing, you aren't even experiencing the full game.

Disagree completely.  The continue is provided by the game.  If the game doesn't want you to continue, then it shouldn't have a continue feature.  Same goes with bombs.  If you never use a bomb you most assuredly aren't experiencing the full game.

Also, are easy games bad things?  Everyone always talks about how great hard games are and how shitty easy games are.  Please.  Games can be fun no matter what the difficulty is.

[SamIAm]

I think continues in a shmup are typically for practice, as evidenced by the number of games that either reset your score or simply don't let you save a high score at all if you continue. Most Cave games won't even show you the credits if you continue. I mean, do whatever is fun, but I feel that giving yourself a continue (*cough* especially in a suicide-rank game like Battle Garegga) is akin to giving yourself another king in chess.

On topic: Star Parodia is the only shmup I've beaten on the first go.

[DragonmasterDan]

Also, are easy games bad things?  Everyone always talks about how great hard games are and how shitty easy games are.  Please.  Games can be fun no matter what the difficulty is.

Agreed,

Using the examples provided by this thread, If Air Zonk, Magical Chase, Lords of Thunder and Blazing Lazers are considered some of the easiest shmups on the US TG16, then they're also some of the best.

[Black Tiger]

If you have to continue, then the game isn't easy. If you're spamming bombs and continuing, you aren't even experiencing the full game.

Disagree completely.  The continue is provided by the game.  If the game doesn't want you to continue, then it shouldn't have a continue feature.  Same goes with bombs.  If you never use a bomb you most assuredly aren't experiencing the full game.

Also, are easy games bad things?  Everyone always talks about how great hard games are and how shitty easy games are.  Please.  Games can be fun no matter what the difficulty is.

I don't think that easy games are bad and that good games must be hard. I just don't agree that every arcade game ever made is easy because you can feed it quarters forever. I don't think that people should complain if a console game has unlimited continues or misc options, cheats or exploits. Just because you can play a game one way doesn't mean that it should be the only way. Buying as many outs from shops or exploiting something like Earth armor in Lords of Thunder to avoid relying on skill is similar to just relying on credits/continues/etc.

If developrs didn't want you to use invincibilty codes or level select cheats, they wouldn't have programmed them in either.

When I mentioned spamming bombs, I meant how in games like Sapphire you can tap the bomb button until you're out of bombs and then kill yourself, respawn and repeat until the game is over. It may be part of the game but it's not the only way to play.

Many of the games people are bringing up can be easy. But many of them can also be much more challenging.

[guyjin]

Not to sound douchie but that kinda surprising coming from some one with 3000+ post. Do you have Air Zonk?

Not Douchey at all. I love vidyagames, but am bad at them. :oops: I'm not the only one here like that.

I have CD Denjin (the sequel), but not the original Air Zonk.