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Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« on: March 06, 2012, 01:36:25 PM »
I was wondering, evryone seems to diss the PCE port of Street Fighter 2 as "good for the system, but not as good as the SNES". Why do people like the SNES version more? The PC Engine version has really vibrant colors, fantastic voices, awesome chip music, two unique control methods, great presentation, and a sound test. The SNES one has washed out graphics and extremely strange remixed tunes. Actually, the PC Engine version is one of my favorite games of all time :D, and it's really the only version of Street Fighter 2 I need. There are too many updates and ports. =;

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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2012, 01:55:57 PM »
My gut reaction is that the SNES came with a 6 button controller where the PC Engine (initially) did not.  I always found the SNES controller awkward to use for SF2, though.  When I had an Ave Pad 6 (and later, the Hori Stick for the PCE) I also preferred the PCE version to the SNES version.  But now that I only have 2 button controllers, I can see the SNES version having the edge.  But newer systems now have better ports that and I have joysticks for them, so it's a moot point.  Still, if I have a craving for 8/16 bit SF2, I am more likely to play the PCE version with a 2 button controller (or on the Express) than I am to play the SNES version.  OBEY!

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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2012, 02:13:40 PM »
I prefer the Duo version to the SNES version, personally. The 6 button controller really does it for me.

Anyone trying to say the SNES version has better graphics, etc, is just blowing smoke. Each version has something the other doesn't visually, in the end it's all a wash, really.

I can see a case being made regarding the audio between the two, but it's all in the eye (or ear) of the beholder, and I personally prefer the trademark Duo chiptunes over the staccato SNES audio.

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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2012, 02:44:15 PM »
I like them equally.  The whole debate has never made any sense to me and I don't understand where all of the strong feelings come from.
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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2012, 02:51:18 PM »
I like them both equally.
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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2012, 03:37:03 PM »
I liked both the SNES and the PCE one. I didn't have the PCE version back in the day, so that's probably why I still have some sort of fondness for the snes one. But nowadays, I play the PCE one every time and never mess with the SNES ones. The PCE version just has a charm to it with the vibrant colors and great (IMO) PCE version of the arcade sound track. I actually prefer the PCE sound track to the Genesis, SNES, and arcade versions. And I'm normally not that biased towards PCE chiptunes.

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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2012, 04:06:00 PM »
Here's how I rate 'em:

Graphics:
Tie - Genesis, Turbo, SNES - Each has good and bad points, no version has enough of an edge in a certain area to win entirely over the other versions.

Music:
Genesis wins.  It sounds awesome (as long as we're talking pre-Super SF2).  I think I prefer the Turbo music over the SNES version.

Voice:
Tough one.  Genesis loses, for sure.  The SNES has the cleanest voices and the Turbo the clearest.  By "clean" I mean without garbled digital artifacts.  And by "clear" I mean the quality, without being too muffled.  The SNES doesn't have any static or scratchiness in the voices where the Turbo absolutely does.  But the SNES sounds like it's being played back with a pillow over the speaker.  The Genesis version sounds awful.  Just listen to the elephants.  That sound should not even be in the game.

Gameplay/Control:
Genesis wins for sure with the 6-button controller.  The standard Sega 6-button controller (not the Majesco one) is light years better than the Avenue 6 or any other 6-button controller I've seen for the Turbo.  The SNES loses this battle for sure since two of the buttons are on top of the controller.

Overall:  Genesis--Turbo--------SNES.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2012, 04:07:35 PM by Joe Redifer »

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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2012, 08:58:25 PM »
Well, for me it's almost the other way around.  Streetfighter when it came out on the SNES was supposed to be "arcade perfect" according to some magazines, but when I played it (at a friend's house) it seemed kind of wooly.  The sprites weren't right,  they were kind of stretched etc.

Now, if I'd seen it in context of other SNES games rather than the Arcade version, I might have thought different, but I can't help seeing SNES SFII as a watered down kid's version.

But the PCE version, I really like.  Probably because it was one of the few games I had for my GT back in the day, and even with 2 buttons, it beats the stuffing out of most portable games at the time, and has infinite replay value.  Nowadays I'd use my 6-button Nomad for portable SFII, but I still like the PCE version a lot more than the SNES.  More blood too.

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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2012, 09:52:25 PM »
I got Street Fighter II for the PC Engine just a few days ago so I'm not able to really say anything yet. The awkward (better word than unique I would say) controls are messing my gameplay up but over all it seems pretty bad ass! I love the sound.

Super Street Fighter II for the SNES is my choice when it comes to Street Fighter. Or was it Street Fighter Turbo? Uuh... Something.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2012, 09:55:30 PM by Starfighter »

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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2012, 11:47:14 PM »
I have an equal disinterest in all Street Fighter II ports. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy reading about how the different versions stack up against each other, though. Quite the opposite: it is the only thing I enjoy about Street Fighter.

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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2012, 11:56:17 PM »
Street Fighter on the PCE is a perfect conversion of the Chaimpionship edition.

Street Fighter on the SNES is only better because of the TURBO edition which original was a fan hack, known as Rainbow ( which has variants ).
Yes for one time in videogame history a hack actually affected how an entire series of games should be.

Street FIghter PCE was portable, and has sound comparible to the Arcade on one card. The SNES while being faster at the time was never
meant to be portable. I find it amazing to see the game run on the PCE
in comparison to the SNES.


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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2012, 12:38:05 AM »
I like the SF2 on PCE, but when I was younger, picked the SNES over the Genesis one since I didn't have the luxury of the PCE one.
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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2012, 12:53:33 AM »
PCE SFII' is great. everybody with a just  some lil bit brain knows!!

I still like SFII Turbo on SFC lil bit better. it was my most played version (beside the arcade).

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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2012, 12:58:24 AM »
Of the "16-bit" era SF2 ports, I'll say the PCE is my favorite.  SNES version is good, but I prefer the PCE tunes over the typical SNES reverb tunes (at least in this instance).  And Genesis laryngitis voice samples alone really kills that version for me. 

And though the Turbo version is nice for other ports, CE ended up being my favorite version of all the SF2 incarnations, so that one's not really an issue for me.

PCE version no doubt pushed the limits of the PCE (actually can't believe how good this game looks on an "8-bit" machine), but I say it's far from being a perfect conversion - when booting up say, the Saturn version and PCE version back-to-back, the differences are quite noticeable -- i.e. much smaller sprite size, missing set of elephants in Dhalsim stage, no parallex, missing backgrounds like the moon in Ryu stage, etc. etc.

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Re: Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2012, 01:36:52 AM »
Street Fighter on the PCE is a perfect conversion of the Chaimpionship edition.
PCE had Championship Edition (aka Dash) where Genny and SNES had World Warrior and Hyper variants. To the casual gamer, it does not matter what arcade port it was, as long as it has "Rye-You". I remember it being the sole release of CE for a while, so it was kinda special. At the end of the day, Super Turbo is  the only SFII that matters.

Street Fighter on the SNES is only better because of the TURBO edition which original was a fan hack, known as Rainbow ( which has variants ).
Yes for one time in videogame history a hack actually affected how an entire series of games should be.
Are you saying the hack/boot/fun-as-hell versions pushed Capcom to make Turbo and Hyper? I never really though about it that way, just assumed if folks in HK where gonna bootleg SF, they just got creative (or lazy code) and it took off. Guess that's why they went CPS2 after that release and introduced the world to suicide batteries with Super.
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