Does anyone REALLY like Street Fighter II on the PC Engine?

[soop]

Adding the hyper fighting mode to the PCE version would also have been nice, since the the only thing required for it would be some extra code to speed up the fighting (the Chun Li fireball could just have used the Dhalsim fireball and been recolored blue, which is essentially what it is anyway). 

Actually, there's more to Hyper Fighting than speeding it up and adding Chun-Li's kiko ken.

more colours, mid-air cyclone kicks, Dhalsim's dissapearing trick, Ken's teaked dragon punch...  There's a lot of small changes.

[Tatsujin]

Right, and moar animations as well.



Schtreet Fighter

[Necromancer]

To most SFII fans though the PCE ver became useless as soon as SFII' Turbo was released on SFC a month or so later (for $30 less on a sytem that already had a six button controller).

You sound like the retards that buy Madden or Call of Duty every six months, yelling "OMG!  This is teh bestest game evah!  Burn the old one!"

These days the main purpose of SFII' on PCE is to give hardcore PCE fanboys something to jerk off to and from what I've read over the years here it does a marvelous job of that.

So it's not a good game?  A later improved version doesn't negate how good the prior game was.

[bust3dstr8]

Nothing against the PCE version...I can't stand any version of CE.  It's Hyper Fighting or Bust   

[SignOfZeta]

To most SFII fans though the PCE ver became useless as soon as SFII' Turbo was released on SFC a month or so later (for $30 less on a sytem that already had a six button controller).

You sound like the retards that buy Madden or Call of Duty every six months, yelling "OMG!  This is teh bestest game evah!  Burn the old one!"

Come on. Don't you know by now that I am absolutely not that guy at all? I guess not.

I have a LOT of fighting games and by no means do I abandon them when they are old. I have a shitload of KOFs and I love all of them (except maybe 2001). I consider all of the Vampire games to be great. SSFIIX, for example, is a game I will literally play for the rest of my life. SFII'Turbo is the same, to a lesser extent. I'm still interested in nearly all of the "versus" games, and I even like SFIII:SI. People still play SSFIIX in tournaments to this day and I'm a huge fan of it.

SFII' though...there just isn't much reason to ever play this game again unless you are a PCE fan. Turbo was a much better game all around. Since there are five versions of SFII its not hard to imagine that some are going to be forgotten. The games are SO similar and its so inexpensive to buy all of them now, that people will pick whatever version they want and play that. Overall, that version is not SFII'.

Its good that you brought up Madden though. Since there is one Madden on TG-16 I assume that version gets more play here with people than any other simply because its on Turbo. Of course even SFII on Gameboy is more fun than any Madden game, but I think there is some comparison to be made here. If someone doesn't have a PC Engine then there is pretty much a %0 chance they are ever going to play SFII'. It would also not be the first Super Street Fighter II. Both of those games are now pretty much fan-less. Bumps on the road to progress made in SFII'Turbo and SSFIIX.

If what you really want is to play some SFII regardless of platform, you aren't going to be playing this version. If you have some sort of pro-NEC agenda then the PCE version is best. I'm sure there is some forum full of 3DO shitheads being the same way about SSFIIX since that was a 3DO exclusive for several years.

[Black Tiger]

Champion Edition in any form is still my favorite SFII.

[Necromancer]

Come on. Don't you know by now that I am absolutely not that guy at all? I guess not.

Saying that only rabid PCE fanboys would play (or even discuss) SFII' after Turbo came out makes you sound exactly like that guy.

[majors]

I'm sure there is some forum full of 3DO shitheads being the same way about SSFIIX since that was a 3DO exclusive for several years.

I was thinking along the same lines when I made the comment that PCE had the only release of Dash(CE). The discussion is now turning into "what is your favorite SFII release" rather than "do you like the PCE release of SFII".

I like and play(ed) the PCE SFII'. But after playing ST, it's boring.

[spenoza]

I was just the perfect age when Street Fighter II originally hit the arcades, and I played the original version of it quite a bit (just as I had Street Fighter/Fighting Street before it). I think CE(') is the best version of the game. I know lots of people love Turbo, Super, and Super Turbo, and they are great games, but I prefer the original release line (II, II CE, and II Turbo) best, and CE is the one I like best of the original line releases. There is probably some nostalgia at work, here. I wasn't playing in arcades much when Super and ST came out.

Also, even though the audio doesn't sound as high-quality as the SNES audio, it sounds a little clearer. The SNES audio is too filtered. Meanwhile, the Genesis audio is rather sad and sounds too harsh. Graphically I don't have a preference between the SNES and PCE releases.

So the PCE CE release is kinda the perfect release for me.

Edit: BT, if I may offer a bit of advice: I love your SFII comparison works, but the images on the MAIN page aren't labelled the way they are in the sub-pages, so it's hard to tell which image goes with which console, especially considering you put the images in the reverse order of the game system logos at the top of the page.

[Bonknuts]

SFII CE is the last street fighter game I played in the arcades or cared to play. I stopped caring about the series after that. But up until and including that, I played the hell out of the arcade games. I like playing ports that platform specific charm to them. If I didn't, I wouldn't play any ports except for the most 'superior' ones. Probably MAME (if I didn't have the arcade PCBs). Most people tend to follow that logic without being labeled a 'fanboy' or some such insult. Why should SF2 get any sort of exemption? Strider is superior in the arcade to the Genesis one, yet when I get the urge to play the game - I go straight to the Genesis version. I play Splatterhouse on the PCE rather than the arcade. Rtype on the PCE rather than the arcade (and love the crap out of the original arcade version. I probably put near as much money into that as I did any SF2 arcade cab - BITD).I could go on and on listing such examples. Ports have their charm. It has nothing to do with being a blind fanboy and rubbing one off.

[nodtveidt]

(except maybe 2001)

I'll drink to this... worst one of the series.

[Sadler]

I own several SF ports in addition to the PCE port, including World Warrior, Turbo, Super and Alpha 2 for the SNES. I played SF a fair amount in the arcade and  a shit ton of the various SNES ports BITD. SF2 is one of my favorite games. I didn't play the PCE port until a couple years ago. I was definitely impressed (especially given that my experience with fighters on the PCE at that time was limited to Fighting Street), but the music really disappointed me. Nowadays I tend to choose the PCE version which I freely admit is mostly due to my fanboyism. Having said that, I never liked SSF2 as much as earlier versions and I never considered Turbo a great improvement on Champion Edition. The music in the PCE version doesn't really bother me anymore, but I'm going to say something sacrilegious here: I actually prefer the SNES controller, I just have an easier time accessing all 6 buttons. Still, like I said, I almost always go for the PCE port nowadays.

[SignOfZeta]

When I play SFII these days it's usually SSFIIX on a system like DC or something else where the port is nigh on perfect. If I'm going to play any 16-bit era port it will almost always be SFII' on PCE. Why? Because I'm a PCE fanboy. I like that is a showboat game that is much better than other fighters on the system, even when stuff like FFS is technically superior. I like that it's the biggest HuCard. I like that it's a HuCard at all, and therefore proves that CDs aren't always better.

I fully admit that I have political reasons for playing this game though. I'm not going to say I like it because it has "two unique control schemes" (WTF? Yeah, one that works and one that is a f*cking nightmare) nor am I going to say that I like the PCE version best because my favorite version of SFII is SFII' anyway. Why? For what reason would anyone prefer Dash unless they just really liked brutalizing people with Guile and Vega, very very slowly?  Seriously. None of that "personal preference" or "I have a right to my own opinion and therefore don't need any justification for my opinion" bullshit. If I had to pick a favorite 16 bit version of SFII (non-CPS) I would honestly say that it probably IS the PCE version and pretty much because it's on PCE. I'm not going to pretend Super Turbo is a lesser game in order to justify it.

[spenoza]

What's wrong with personal preference, and why do the reasons for preferring one over another matter? I mean, many of us offer those explanations unbidden, but really, in the end, does it ultimately matter? Nope. You like what you like.

[Vecanti]

If you take a stock PC Engine and stock SNES with any version SFII the PCE version wins.

Why?

Because you can turn on turbo fire and just hold down one button and kick everyones butt with Chun Li's super fast kick.