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HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« on: March 16, 2012, 12:22:44 PM »
People seem to diss the PC Engine's graphics compared to the SNES. I know they are generally not as good, but the PCE technology was 3 years older than the SNES's. Are there any HuCard games that you guys think look as good or better than at least some SNES games?

Here are some I think are fantastic: remember, HUCARDS ONLY

Air Zonk
Street Fighter II
1943 Kai
Samurai Ghost
Bomberman 94
New Adventure Island

Runner Up: Parodius(not as good as SNES version)

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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 12:24:54 PM »
Oh boy, the can of worms opens again.

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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 02:00:33 PM »
All of them.

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[Fri 19:34]<nectarsis> been wanting to try that one for awhile now Ope
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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 02:23:36 PM »
All of them.

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A-f*cking-greed.  Seriously, how are the SNES's graphics better?  The Genny I could maybe see, but not the sness.
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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 02:25:01 PM »
People seem to diss the PC Engine's graphics compared to the SNES. I know they are generally not as good, but the PCE technology was 3 years older than the SNES's. Are there any HuCard games that you guys think look as good or better than at least some SNES games?

Here are some I think are fantastic: remember, HUCARDS ONLY

Air Zonk
Street Fighter II
1943 Kai
Samurai Ghost
Bomberman 94
New Adventure Island

Runner Up: Parodius(not as good as SNES version)

You know there are tons of SNES games that look bad or NES quality. :P I'm guessing that you're thinking of above average SNES games and even then, likely with a certain aesthetic style in mind. If you're counting Samurai Ghost and 1943, then you're setting the bar pretty low for PCE. Here are others you'd probably count:

Magical Chase
Aeroblasters
Ninja Spirit
Super Star Soldier
Soldier Blade
Tatsujin
Twinbee
Hana Taka Daka
Liquid Kids
Blue Blink
SFII'
Strip Fighter II
Download
Cloud Master
Coryoon
Neutopia
Neutopia II
Dungeon Explorer
Alien Crush
Devil's Crush
R-Type
Darius Plus
Sidearms
Altered Beast
Cyber Knight
Gekisha Boy
Raiden
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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2012, 02:46:15 PM »
Every game on PCE that is a HuCard looks f*cking sweet, and anyone who disagrees can go put their wang in a wall outlet like this guy:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80872560/
[Fri 19:34]<nectarsis> been wanting to try that one for awhile now Ope
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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 03:27:02 PM »
Every game on PCE that is a HuCard looks f*cking sweet, and anyone who disagrees can go put their wang in a wall outlet like this guy:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80872560/


Really Arkhan? The PC Engine ain't the best always. Look at Blodia or the New Zealand Story(such awful colors)

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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2012, 03:46:34 PM »
Really Arkhan? The PC Engine ain't the best always. Look at Blodia or the New Zealand Story(such awful colors)

you're right I love playing those two games on my SFC.

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[Fri 19:34]<nectarsis> been wanting to try that one for awhile now Ope
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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 03:52:13 PM »
PCE or gtfo.

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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2012, 05:16:20 PM »
Every game on PCE that is a HuCard looks f*cking sweet, and anyone who disagrees can go put their wang in a wall outlet like this guy:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80872560/


Really Arkhan? The PC Engine ain't the best always. Look at Blodia or the New Zealand Story(such awful colors)


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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 07:10:55 PM »
It could be argued that with a larger color palette from which to choose and with transparency and multiple backgrounds, not to mention more sprites to throw around, that, artistic concerns aside, the SNES was technically capable of better graphics. It also had more VRAM, which also helps a great deal. That said, I think the PCE was more than capable of keeping up enough to be in the same field. The PCE was not wholly inferior, and some of the Hucard games did show the available power off. Download and Magical Chase are two that come readily to mind. Psychosis is rather colorful, but I'm not sure colorful is adequate by itself, given that even the color-limited Sega Genesis managed to host a number of very colorful-looking games.

I'm not sure limiting the field to Hucards only is really fair, anyway. Because the SNES and Genesis lacked CD-ROM attachments, they used mappers to generate very large cart sizes, while the only large HuCards were Street Fighter II', which was graphically very close to the SNES version, and the Arcade Card. Since the SNES and Genesis had larger cart sizes they could put lots of graphical (and auditory) data on the cart and simply pull it when needed. The only reason you didn't see large cart sizes on the PCE was because it was simply far cheaper to release a CD than a mapper-equipped HuCard. If more large HuCards were released, some of them might have had better graphics than some of the CD releases. It has already been discussed in previous forum posts that SFII' might not even have been possible (at least not unadultered) with the Arcade Card, due to it needing so much readily available data, more by a little than the Arcade Card had on tap.

Let's face it. The CD-ROM attachment and the various system cards didn't add any graphics hardware to the system. They just provided additional storage space for data, meaning, with the SuperCD, you could dedicate a whole 8 mib at a time to a single level, or even more than that if you were willing to split the level with a load point. Some CD and SuperCD games aren't much larger, if they are larger at all, than some of the largest SNES and Genny cartridges. So, again, redbook audio aside, a HuCard only challenge is even MORE apples to oranges than simply comparing the platforms.
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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2012, 08:42:39 PM »
Let's face it. The CD-ROM attachment and the various system cards didn't add any graphics hardware to the system. They just provided additional storage space for data, meaning, with the SuperCD, you could dedicate a whole 8 mib at a time to a single level, or even more than that if you were willing to split the level with a load point. Some CD and SuperCD games aren't much larger, if they are larger at all, than some of the largest SNES and Genny cartridges. So, again, redbook audio aside, a HuCard only challenge is even MORE apples to oranges than simply comparing the platforms.

Plus SNES carts use various amounts of compression, with at least a few adding hardware for it. The actual game size of the average PCE CD game (minus overtly superfluous content like massive cinemas) isn't much different than the actual game size of the average SNES game and I'm sure than many are smaller. Far East of Eden Zero is supposed to be 136 uncompressed megs for example. But the PCE CD2 and SCD formats were still as much of a bottle neck as they were a positive format for overall storage.
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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2012, 09:31:44 PM »
Dragon Egg has awesome colors

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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2012, 09:52:12 PM »
the only problem with the hueys was its limited space (except SFII' huey), and has absolutely nothing to do with the graphical limitation of the system. a huey can also produce sapphire grafx on screen, just not as many as on a (A)CD.

also most hueys are from a diffeent era, where games looked different. by the time the SFC started breathing, PCE was already moving towrad SCD technology.
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Re: HuCards that look as good as SNES games
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2012, 10:21:36 PM »
Considering the PCE came out first by years, the question is "Can the SNES compete with Hucard games?"  The answer is always "No."  The SNES is a piss poor piece of garbage that completely fails to live up to the NES.
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