HuCards that look as good as SNES games

[Arkhan]

This thread is retarded.

[Vecanti]

A quick scroll through this thread  http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6609.1080  is always a good reminder how small the SNES sprites are and how washed out the colors are compared to teh pce.

[nodtveidt]

The PCE also has very few straight-platformers.

Out of sheer curiosity, what do you consider a straight platformer? Since platforming has sort of become my niche, I'd love to help fill in the gaps.

[Bonknuts]

People seem to diss the PC Engine's graphics compared to the SNES. I know they are generally not as good, but the PCE technology was 3 years older than the SNES's. Are there any HuCard games that you guys think look as good or better than at least some SNES games?

Here are some I think are fantastic: remember, HUCARDS ONLY

Air Zonk
Street Fighter II
1943 Kai
Samurai Ghost
Bomberman 94
New Adventure Island

Runner Up: Parodius(not as good as SNES version)

 Aero Blasters, Raiden, Neutopia 2, Tatsujin, Soldier Blade to name a few. I assume you mean 1941 and not 1943. Because else, I can list a shit others that are better looking that 1943.

[lukester]

My big gripe with the SFC is that almost all the games have aged very poorly compared to the other systems. 
Even the "omg look" games like R2 use basically one background on loop for an entire stage at a time.  Mario World,
DKC, all have like 4 different backgrounds and they loop again and again.  Who cares if the game goes on for 3 hours if every stage looks the same.

You must HATE Neo/Nectaris and many Turbo/PCE games then.

If you can't use variety, then the stages shouldn't go over 2 mins.  That damn raft ride on chomakaimura is the exact same thing on loop for over 3 and a half minutes, die and you do the whole thing again, the hardest part of cho is not falling asleep to it.

What about RPGs?

Megaman X is all kinds of awesome, until you realize there's only like 3 enemies on screen at once, all that speed but so much empty space...

You don't need a screen full of enemies for good or fun gameplay. One of the biggest problems with 16-bit games is when they try to throw everything but the kitchen sink into each screen just for the sake of differentiating it from 8-bit games. Instead of just concentrating on what makes a game good.

Here's how I judge the systems by games

PC Engine: ports of the most popular arcade games, legendary shooters, decent platformers

Megadrive: ports of the strangest arcade games(Toki, Two Crude Dudes, Chelnov), average shooters(even the Toaplan ports), boring platformers

SNES: most original games, few good shooters(Gradius III, but really hard), excellent platformers, ZELDA!!!!

I guess you really haven't even seen videos of many PCE games, let alone played them. No one who is familiar with the PCE, even if they're a Genesis or SNES fanboy, doesn't agree that the PCE has the most original and best selection of the "strangest" games. It also sounds like you limit yourself to the kinds of games you play in general, since even when summarizing the legendary SNES, you don't even mention RPGs.

The PCE is actually the weakest of the three consoles for ports of the most popular arcade games, for non-Japanese players at least. The PCE is loaded with ports of great arcade games, but most non-Japanese players haven't even heard of half of them. The PCE also has very few straight-platformers. There is a lot of great platforming gameplay in PCE games, but they usually mix in other gameplay as well.

It sounds like you're just a SNES fan who is beginning to try Mega Drive and PC Engine stuff. There's nothing wrong with that, but you shouldn't try to judge the libraries before you've experienced much of them. You're also better off trying games in emulation before buying them instead of asking for opinions on whether they're worthwhile. You obviously have specific tastes. But if you give some of the hundreds of PCE and MD games which don't fall within the genres you traditionally play a chance, I'm sure you'll find many games you'll love and open up a massive range of games to consider for all consoles, even SNES.

Look Black Tiger and everyone. I'm not a SNES fanboy. The PCE is my favorite system. I just want to hear your opinions on games. This thread may seem retarded, but I feel that these forums have had a lot of inactivity lately. Oh, and I really don't like RPGs.

[turbokon]

A quick scroll through this thread  http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6609.1080  is always a good reminder how small the SNES sprites are and how washed out the colors are compared to teh pce.

Some awesome games in here I've never seen before.  I'm very excited to the discovery of some new PCE/TG games that awaits me!!

[SuperDeadite]

Sure a lot of Hucards repeat the same backgrounds like the SNES does, but the levels are usually much shorter.  So it feels like I'm actually getting somewhere.  I much prefer an abundance of shorter levels then a few stupidly long levels.  And I like having everything thrown at me all the time.  If I have time to stand there doing nothing, then it's wasted time.   I guess I see games like I see life in general, if I have time to sit on my ass doing nothing at home or at the office, it's just a waste, must be busy all the time.

I like RPGs, but once again I like the fast-paced more busy ones.  Tales of Destiny 2 (jp PS2) with it's insanely cheap auto-counter AI, gives me such an adrenaline rush.  Growlanser on PS1, SRPG that really does throw everything at you all at once.  For RTS games, my favorite is "Z", where you must be constantly doing something or you get owned, no silly resource collecting garbage.

I'm an arcade gamer at heart, it's all about speed, insanity, and the feeling that gameover can come at any second, f*ck YEAH

[nodtveidt]

SD, I think you'll like a game I've got cooking in the dark alleys of PCEland then...

[Tatsujin]

A quick scroll through this thread  http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6609.1080  is always a good reminder how small the SNES sprites are and how washed out the colors are compared to teh pce.

a legendary page in a legenday thread in the history of videogame related forums

btw. still makes me big rolfmaololing when ever i look at that:

vs.

 

[Samurai Ghost]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

[Black Tiger]

Look Black Tiger and everyone. I'm not a SNES fanboy. The PCE is my favorite system. I just want to hear your opinions on games. This thread may seem retarded, but I feel that these forums have had a lot of inactivity lately. Oh, and I really don't like RPGs.

I'm curious why you settled for 'as good as SNES games'. Is it because the Mega Drive's graphics are too good, so you met the HuCards half way by comparing them to only SNES graphics?


Anyway, here are some examples-
















































































No repeated games. All SNES carts and all PCE HuCards.

[sunteam_paul]

/threadwin

[Arkhan]

Arcana is a pretty sweet game though.  Better than Lady Sword.

[RegalSin]

Those images are kinda unfair. To be realistic, Nintendo gave the option to the maker to use their own rom-chips. The PCE just decided to go into CD-roms. You can see the limitation of the systems storage capacity without that extra boost. You can also see that by using an adapter over the SNES. Like an NES or Floppy disk adapter ( that can cause some games saves to not work ).

One thing Nintendo did commit to, was putting up the fight to stay with carts instead of CD's.

[Samurai Ghost]

Those images are kinda unfair. To be realistic, Nintendo gave the option to the maker to use their own rom-chips. The PCE just decided to go into CD-roms. You can see the limitation of the systems storage capacity without that extra boost. You can also see that by using an adapter over the SNES. Like an NES or Floppy disk adapter ( that can cause some games saves to not work ).

I'm not seeing any CD games up there. All HuCards, baby!

One thing Nintendo did commit to, was putting up the fight to stay with carts instead of CD's.

Which turned out to be the biggest mistake they ever made.

But yeah, this comparison isn't that fair, as the SNES came out three years later than the PC Engine, but the fact that the PCE can look that much better graphically shows what a lackluster piece of hardware the SFC is. Sure it's got a much bigger color palette and better sound capabilities, but even then I still prefer the bright, crisp colors of the PCE and it's awesome chiptunes much better.