Ordyne vs. Sidearms, let's end this argument

[Black Tiger]

Hmm...I was never impressed with Kieth Courage in any way shape or form. Ever. I like guy with a gun for a head, sure, but that isn't enough. The bland gameplay, the sucky ass sound effects (sword swinging sound...wtf?).

The Alpha Zones sword swing sound effect is one of my favorite video game sound effects of all time.

[Joe Redifer]

I agree.  I love the sound effects in Keith Courage.  They're not realistic but they sound awesome.  As a game it's mediocre at best, but there are definitely elements I love about it.

Side Arms on the Turbo is better than Ordyne on the Turbo, but I don't consider either a "must have".  I did an arrangement of the first level theme of Ordyne several years ago because I liked the music, but not because I particularly liked Oryne (though the arcade isn't awful).  I never released it anywhere.

[DesmondThe3rd]

I always thought Ordyne was kinda underrated. First off it's one of the few two player shooters on system and there was a decent amount of enemies, power ups, and bonuses. Side Arms is cool too but the difficulty feels a bit unbalanced at times.

[thesteve]

sapphire is 2 player as well

[T2KFreeker]

sapphire is 2 player as well

Hell yeah! Sadly though, I doubt you are going to find Sapphire at the same price as Ordyne or Sidearms. Not to mention the necessity of the Arcade card to boot! Still a bad ass game though and is indeed two player!

[Tatsujin]

get a fakeler from benby 4FREE

[majors]

It seems pretty even then, both games have merit when talking solely on play on the TG. I did think it would be more one side(arms)d, but it both games have their fans. I'll give Ordyne another shot...but on a Namco collection to get the arcade version. We all seem to agree that both games are mid-tier choices and boils down to "what you like yer'self". Guess I like robots more that kids in flying cars.

[Arkhan]

Keith Courage and China Warrior would have cost like, 5$ total.  Hell, does the guy post on here?  I'll mail him a loose copy.  I think I have two.

As far as introduction games, its great for many reasons.

1) It's not like OMG FAST PACED REFLEXES OR YOU DIE HAH f*ck YOU.   It's mellow.  You start off in town and derp along to the funny town music and get a feel for everything.
2) You get to the end and a rainbow shoots down and you TRANSFORM THE f*ck OUT.  That little scene where you morph, f*cking rules.
3) Once you drop into the underworld, holy shit.  Mutant capguns, frankenstein bullshit, multiway platforming.  And it's still not OMG PRESS FASTER YOU PUSSY, YOU'RE DEAD IF YOU DON'T.  The boss-battle room looks cool as hell, and the music it plays is intense and exciting.

The whole time, you are treated to pretty smooth graphics.  The shading of everything is pretty nice.  The sounds are great too.  That sword-swing in the underworld sounds awesome. I always liked that loud ass "whoooompah" noise.

It showcases just about everything the system can do:  Sweet music, solid controls, big and little sprites, and pretty colors.

Plus, it's not like "oh, its only good because its cheap".  The game was f*ckin free. You got it just for buying a Turbob.

My suggestions to a Turbob N00b are as follows:

China Warrior
Bonk
Neutopia
Vigilante
Keith Courage
Blazing Lazers

My ultimate reason?  This is what I was exposed to growing up on the system, and it was enough to make me want to program shitty games for it!

[KingDrool]

One question, Arkhan: why Vigilante? Any reason other than nostalgia?

[_joshuaTurbo]

Keith Courage and China Warrior would have cost like, 5$ total.  Hell, does the guy post on here?  I'll mail him a loose copy.  I think I have two.

Remember Ark, he was buying from Madgear's booth.  So those games were most likely $10 each.

I'll give Ordyne another shot...but on a Namco collection to get the arcade version.

I played the arcade cab, and Namco's collection versions of Ordyne.  It's a really great game!! 

[vestcoat]

Learning to love Keith Courage is the mandatory initiation for every noob.  

No other games can be purchased until they've lived with KC for two weeks.  

And no less than one (1) year of Turbochipping is needed before the granting of Super CD privileges!  

[soop]

I know it's a thread about SideArms vs Ordyne, but:

I would agree that Side Arms isn't the best choice. Its rather middle tier, IMHO, and doesn't have much personality.  Bonk, Ninja Spirit, Final Lap Twin, there are better choices.

This.  I can't believe he may have gone home without PC Kid 2.  That Turbo Grafx may end up in a bin.

[Arkhan]

One question, Arkhan: why Vigilante? Any reason other than nostalgia?

No, I did name my library I had for years (new TG games were not possible when I got my TG ~1998 from my aunt).  I didn't start buying more games for it til ~2001.  So for 3 years I basically had a tiny library. 

But, Vigilante on TG is better than the arcade one.  It controls better, sounds better, and looks like the same.  It's a sweet f*ckin beat em up.

[KingDrool]

THE SKINHEADS HAVE KIDNAPPED MADONNA!

Honestly, I think it's kind of shitty; especially when compared to Double Dragon 1 & 2. But hey, to each their own. (*cough* China Warrior *cough*)

[Arkhan]

Vigilante is a sweet beat em up, man.