Author Topic: advantages of loading times during cutscene on arcade card pro/duo over 3.0 card  (Read 1525 times)

td741

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EDIT: Aw man, I just watched that video. I seriously think that it may be a parody video. I've considered doing something similar

The biggest and easiest to verify claim was that "Mad Stalker" was a "Shooter"... yeah... a shooter where you walk on a two dimensional plane and jump, punch and kick... :P

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Concerning the video (Retroware TV): At least he uses Dungeon Explorer PSG tunes! I appreciated that aspect.

As for the entire video...well, contrary to what folks have said here (about it being garbage), it certainly wasn't complete drivel. I've seen truly horrendous garbage out there, and this "Retroware" wasn't nearly as bad. Flawed? Yes. Entertaining to watch? Yes.




I don't think that anything will ever top the anti-PCE/PCE fan propaganda videos that those guys made after a flame war with several customers.



EDIT: Aw man, I just watched that video. I seriously think that it may be a parody video. I've considered doing something similar


The biggest and easiest to verify claim was that "Mad Stalker" was a "Shooter"... yeah... a shooter where you walk on a two dimensional plane and jump, punch and kick... :P


That's kinda like the 1up Turbo retrospective in which the most clueless guy aggressively led the conversation and corrected the one guy who was actually familiar with Turbo/PCE, who had made the mistake of saying that Gate of Thunder had a heavy hard rock soundtrack. He was like "No! It's all techno music! Only one part of one song has any guitar!" :P
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You never hear Keranu talking out of his ass like that.

I'm a ass talking pro! But in all sincerity I do believe JJ & Jeff is the holy grail of video games.

Concerning the video (Retroware TV): At least he uses Dungeon Explorer PSG tunes! I appreciated that aspect.

As for the entire video...well, contrary to what folks have said here (about it being garbage), it certainly wasn't complete drivel. I've seen truly horrendous garbage out there, and this "Retroware" wasn't nearly as bad. Flawed? Yes. Entertaining to watch? Yes.



I agree, I still enjoyed watching the video. I appreciated the music selection too, they used my favorite track from Ys!
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).

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You're talking about Popful Mail SCD right? That's one of the games I can remember that gets rid of some of the load times between cut scenes when using the Arcade Card.

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Mad Stalker is the only game I encountered with the pre-load. I think it loads all the material, used in game, not including the stages. I really love the game, it holds a candle to Knight SaberS/bUBBLEGUM cRISIS.

You know what, Popful mail on the Sega Cd cut scenes looks terrible. That just my opinon. It was like they did not really think things out at all. It is even worst then the original ( which is the original, so their is no harm ), original, original game. The PCE game feel like I am actually watching an animation.

Also with less colors, the Sega game bonus is the bigger sprites, and alternative enemies. Nothing else. It is basically the SNES game but advanced. Ever wonder why the series never took off???

The animation pilot also made no sense at all. They pretty much turned Popful into Beast Master, and just like BM2 the animation made no sense. It would have made a nice series, popful mail in the real world, simular to Geomon in the real world.

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I like the art style and colors of the PCE Popful Mail cutscenes much more, but the Sega CD version has nicer animation.
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Makes you wonder if someone out there has created a vcd player on the pcengine or sega cd... Hmm

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Can't be done.  VCD uses MPEG 1 which neither system can support.  VCD also uses MP2 audio files at (I think) 224kbps and even the 32X isn't powerful enough to play back MP2 files, though it can play back MOD files.

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Makes you wonder if someone out there has created a vcd player on the pcengine or sega cd... Hmm


Even the Saturn and Playstation need decoder cards to play vcds.
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Makes you wonder if someone out there has created a vcd player on the pcengine or sega cd... Hmm


Even the Saturn and Playstation need decoder cards to play vcds.

Which makes the Phillips CDi better than anything up till the PS2.

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Makes you wonder if someone out there has created a vcd player on the pcengine or sega cd... Hmm


That is possible. The problem would be the CD-speed, and memory.
The PCE would have to stream the data and destroy it at the same time. The SEGA cd, hardware is capable of using VCD, as well.

I have a Sega Saturn Card. It works nicely with my matching Saturn.
The Saturn definently has the power to even run DVD's as well. In fact a programmer could actually load a pre-loader program to various video files on the Saturn.

The PCE can run video, but not MPEG directly. Who really knowns.






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HuVideo FTEW!
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Makes you wonder if someone out there has created a vcd player on the pcengine or sega cd... Hmm


That is possible. The problem would be the CD-speed, and memory.

No, it's totally not possible and those wouldn't be the only problems. What about the graphic capabilities of the PCE and Sega CD? I doubt the color palette or graphic resolution on either system would be up to the task. Any sort of clever processing to get around this by approximating the color palette/downscanning the resolution on either system would probably require processing power that neither system has as well.
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Galaxy Fäulein HuVideo:

Gulliver Boy HuVideo:

and a HuVideo hack by our tom:

I wonder know, if it would have been possible to realize QTE games like dragon's lair, time gal with HuVideo? Would have been awesome and much superior to the available MCD stuff.
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and a HuVideo hack by our tom:


I wonder know, if it would have been possible to realize QTE games like dragon's lair, time gal with HuVideo? Would have been awesome and much superior to the available MCD stuff.


Wow. That's awesome. I hadn't seen that hack before. Has he released a tool for this? Is it possible to get an ISO of that hacked Gulliver Boy? I'd like to see it running on my own PCE. I'm sure it would have been possible to make Dragon's Lair etc. with this. Hell, probably wouldn't even be that difficult as a homebrew (pirate) project.