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Re: Religion
« Reply #300 on: October 11, 2011, 06:37:28 AM »
I don't teach my kids about illusory, magical things. Thus, no Santa Claus, no Easter Bunny, no Tooth Fairy, and no God.


^^^ No SpongeBob either?
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« Reply #301 on: October 11, 2011, 07:41:53 AM »
They watch Spongebob on TV but know that he's not real. :)

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« Reply #302 on: October 12, 2011, 02:00:34 PM »
I don't teach my kids about illusory, magical things. Thus, no Santa Claus, no Easter Bunny, no Tooth Fairy, and no God.


^^^ No SpongeBob either?

So, in otherwords, you teach them that life came about magically by itself, instead of by magical beings that planned it all out? :D Kidding.

But seriously though, I was one of the few Christian kids growing up in school that was taught that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, The Great Pumpkin, & Uncle Sam aren't real, & I'm grateful for my parents raising me that way.  It was always a pain as a yung'n(or a yout) to get flak for not believing in that stuff, but I honestly don't consider it healthy to teach kids that these things are real........& then you have to teach them later that *har har, we were kidding*!  I'm no brain surgeon, but, I feel like that kind of behavior can have a really negative effect on a child growing up.  Whether it's just plain confusing for them, or they end up with trust issue's, I believe it's damaging to the child & their relationship with their parents. :(

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« Reply #303 on: October 12, 2011, 05:26:37 PM »
Actually, either way life seems to have magically come about by itself.  On the creationist side, it is said that God has always existed.  And that's it, no further explanation.  God just magically came into existence.

Honestly, though, we can't explain the exact origins of everything at this point in time.  Theories are changing and improving as we learn more.  But just because we can't explain it 100% right here right now does not mean the answer MUST be God.  The human need for everything to be completely explained kind of embraces that rationale.  

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« Reply #304 on: October 12, 2011, 05:40:09 PM »
Chili Dog's are pretty awesome. Why don't people believe in Chili Dogs?
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« Reply #305 on: October 12, 2011, 06:02:33 PM »
Actually, either way life seems to have magically come about by itself.  On the creationist side, it is said that God has always existed.  And that's it, no further explanation.  God just magically came into existence.

Honestly, though, we can't explain the exact origins of everything at this point in time.  Theories are changing and improving as we learn more.  But just because we can't explain it 100% right here right now does not mean the answer MUST be God.  The human need for everything to be completely explained kind of embraces that rationale.  

Indeed.  Though, I'm a lil' different in that, I believe in creation, but that it wasn't in 6 24 hour days.  Each day could've been millions of years, maybe there's not even a set amount of time that a human would understand.  Who knows.  And I also believe the way the scripture starts out, that the earth & the universe in general were made before the 6 "creative days".  I'm not sure, but I think creationists technically believe everything, including the earth was all put together in 6 24 hour days.

Actually, my personal theory is that God is a (for lack of a better term) a multi-chrono singularity.  I'm sure that's probably phrased wrong, but, it sounds kinda cool.  Basically, my theory about God is that he exists outside of time, since, according to creation stories, he was there before everything else, he would be there before time even started.  And even then, I think about God existing unchanged & the same all thruout time, as well as outside it.  

I'm not totally sure how to explain it.  I came up with the idea when reading about some entities in the various Trasnformers universes.  For instance, Unicron, Primus, & Alpha Trion are multiverse singularities.  They each exist as the same exact being in every universe, rather then there being multiple versions of themselves, like there is with Optimus Prime & Megatron.  

For God, I think that he's the same being in & out of time, & can access every time period anytime he wishes due to this.  You & I are slightly different now, then we were 1 minute ago, & 1 minute from now, we'll be different(due to age, acquired knowledge, injury, etc).  We are constantly changing, but if God exists, maybe he is existing not only in the present, but also does exist(rather then did) in the past, & does exist(rather then will) in the future.

It's just something I've pondered about, & I'm almost sure the multi-chrono singularity phrase is inaccurate, but, it's the best way I could think of to describe my theory.  Plus, some people God is 3 persons in one, so if he exists, for them it'd be a multi-chrono trinity I suppose. :D

Anyways, I deffinitly believe in chilli dogs, no doubt, but, I try not to enjoy their gloriousness too often, for I fear they will one day kill me, but good grief, chilli dogs rule!
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« Reply #306 on: October 12, 2011, 06:05:49 PM »
PD that was a good read man.  Now knock out 50 push-ups for being so damn enlightened! =)
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« Reply #307 on: October 12, 2011, 07:02:03 PM »
That's a pretty cool theory, PD.  Of course some religious folks would go apeshit if they heard that.  And along those same lines, I don't understand what God or lack thereof has to do with evolution.  Many religious folk believe in the Adam and Eve story literally.  I don't think the Bible was meant to be interpreted literally (at least I sure as hell hope not).  What if evolution was just part of "God's plan"?  I don't see why it couldn't be... that is if there was/is a god.

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« Reply #308 on: October 12, 2011, 07:10:02 PM »
Joe I agree.  I am a Catholic Christian myself and trust me when I say not all Catholics think literally.  You can't when given the evidence such as the theories of evolution Darwin wrote about.  Most Catholics don't even read their Bible anymore in part due to this.

These days I am still religious but I have lost faith in "organized religion" itself. 
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« Reply #309 on: October 13, 2011, 08:39:04 AM »
Despite being a complete douche, even the Pope accepts evolution while crazy creationists desperately try to use pseudoscience to debunk it. It's quite amusing watching religion constantly backpedal in the face of hard evidence. The sooner children are taught it as literature and not fact, the better.

Most Catholics don't even read their Bible anymore in part due to this.

If more religious people read their bibles, there would be less religious people.
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« Reply #310 on: October 23, 2011, 04:01:27 AM »
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« Reply #311 on: October 25, 2011, 11:33:09 AM »
Believing in a god doesn't answer any questions. I don't begrudge people for believing it, but I don't see what people get from that belief. It's fairly...wait...it's completely obvious that God didn't create the Earth or has some special relationship with humans. So, if you believe that god created the universe and then went off to play in the sandbox with Odin, Apollo and Zeus, where does that get you? It's basically a featherbed for your disbelief in religion, i.e. Christianity/Judaism/Islam. In fact, it answers nothing and raises a whole slew of questions.


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« Reply #312 on: October 25, 2011, 11:58:28 AM »
While I generally agree (atheist here), I know why many people are religious and why it appeals to them.  Most religious people are fools (hell, probably most atheists, too).  But there are some that are genuinely good people and may even be better because of their beliefs.  I know that sounds odd coming from an atheist, but it does work for some people.

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« Reply #313 on: October 25, 2011, 09:05:08 PM »
I can understand what people get from belief - They get a sense of community and comfort in thinking that some magic sky-man is always watching out for them. They can feel when things go wrong that it is part of a plan which is out of their control. It's a coping mechanism for fear of death and the easy way out to explain things that you are too lazy to bother to try and understand. There are people that are better because of their beliefs. There are also people that are worse. But none of that makes it fact, and the one thing that many religious people share is an unwillingness to accept fact when it conflicts with their 'truth'.
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« Reply #314 on: October 27, 2011, 08:26:04 AM »
People can believe what ever they want as long as they don't expect anyone else to follow their rules.