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Keranu

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Re: Religion
« Reply #150 on: October 20, 2007, 07:24:15 PM »
Many men are too weak willed to control their thoughts and actions, particularly with regards to chasing women.  :lol: But like I said, even more than taking care of weak-willed men, it's about creating a cultural environment where women can be respected and protected.

Keep in mind that their are rules and regulations for the way Muslim men dress too, not just women.

We are told several times in the Quran and Hadith to lower our gaze from the opposite sex after the first accidental peek, unless of course it's someone you are talking to. Controling yourself would certainly come first I'd say, but the dress code simply makes things easier. I think it's also interesting to note that most converts to Islam are females and I've heard of female-to-male ratios being as high as 9:1.

Sounds like horse shit to me.  Men are not beasts that need such a crutch to keep from ravaging women on sight.
As already mentioned, the dress code isn't just applied to women and both sexes are advised to lower gazes and control themselves. Also from what I understand, the hijab actually originates in Judaism somehow, but I don't know much about the details.
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« Reply #151 on: October 20, 2007, 09:28:09 PM »
Since less than one percent of Americans follow this wacky dress code how do you avoid running into telephone poles in public since you always have to keep looking down at your feet  :-&

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« Reply #152 on: October 20, 2007, 10:19:51 PM »
I just found out that the bible says that it is a sin to be lazy  :x. So, does this mean its a sin to be lazy on your day off? Or do they mean like if you're a bum or something?  :-k

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« Reply #153 on: October 20, 2007, 10:28:19 PM »
Since less than one percent of Americans follow this wacky dress code how do you avoid running into telephone poles in public since you always have to keep looking down at your feet  :-&
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« Reply #154 on: October 21, 2007, 12:14:30 AM »
You're born with your race, but you choose a religion, so having pride in one is not akin to having pride in the other.  To be a Christian means to live a Christian lifestyle, which involves forgiveness, generosity, renunciation of violence, marital fidelity, and helping your fellow man.  I can't see anything wrong with having pride in those qualities.
Most religious people are indoctrinated into their religion, so it's not so simple as making a choice. Only one of strong mind can choose their religion. Because of that, you could realistically say that one is also born with their religion. And what you mention of the Christian lifestyle (which I've yet to see one actually do what you describe on a regular basis in real life, it's usually just the opposite...unforgiving, rude, obnoxious, violent, self-important pigs...but then again, people are generally this way regardless of their religion) is the same in virtually all religions.

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« Reply #155 on: October 21, 2007, 04:23:12 AM »
Ok, now I'm going to put you on the spot, since you know me(though you also know ones like DevX, so I can understand your feelings on the matter), am I an "unforgiving, rude, obnoxious, violent, self-important pig"?  If I am, I'll deffinitly work on that, I'm always trying to work on my attitude among other things.  It's important to me to keep trying to follow Christ's example of not being like the above.  I know I can't be perfect, but that's no excuse for me to not keep trying to improve.
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« Reply #156 on: October 21, 2007, 05:43:33 AM »
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You're born with your race, but you choose a religion

What about Judaism? Race or religion?

Hint: Trick question. There's no such thing as race.  :P


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Re: Religion
« Reply #157 on: October 21, 2007, 09:04:03 AM »
Cybernetic eye surgery.

Man, if Islam is all about the cybernetics I might have to convert!  :o

Do you get cool cybernetics like wired reflexes and cyberskates?

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« Reply #158 on: October 21, 2007, 09:51:19 AM »
Ok, now I'm going to put you on the spot, since you know me(though you also know ones like DevX, so I can understand your feelings on the matter), am I an "unforgiving, rude, obnoxious, violent, self-important pig"?  If I am, I'll deffinitly work on that, I'm always trying to work on my attitude among other things.  It's important to me to keep trying to follow Christ's example of not being like the above.  I know I can't be perfect, but that's no excuse for me to not keep trying to improve.

I don't know you in real life, only online, so I can't comment on that. If you are trying to follow Christ's example, then you wouldn't likely be any of the above, as according to the book, he wasn't like that at all. It seems that the vast majority of Christians don't even know the MEANING of "Christian"..."Christ-like". Seems like you know what it means to be Christian, unlike most. But of course, you don't need to be Christ-like to note your own shortcomings and try to work on them for the better.

Unfortunately, DevX doesn't need to be known in real life for said problems to be very well known. On a related note, take a look at this thread on Pixelation:

http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=328.0

Virtually ALL of the "goblins" mentioned in this thread applied to DevX.

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« Reply #159 on: October 21, 2007, 12:29:01 PM »
I'll except that answer :D  Reminds me of something I heard about Gandhi saying that if all Christians would live by Jesus teachings from the sermon on the mount, that the problems of the world would be solved.  I don't know about all problems being solved, but this world would sure be alot better if most Christians acted like they claim to.

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« Reply #160 on: October 21, 2007, 12:42:39 PM »
I'll except that answer :D  Reminds me of something I heard about Gandhi saying that if all Christians would live by Jesus teachings from the sermon on the mount, that the problems of the world would be solved.  I don't know about all problems being solved, but this world would sure be alot better if most Christians acted like they claim to.

I like how many ignorant self proclaimed Christians(not to be confused with all the rest) like to use phrases like "its the Christian thing to do" when talking about doing something they think is good or "right", when its actually either un-Christian or not a very good thing at all. :P
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« Reply #161 on: October 21, 2007, 05:41:47 PM »
Oh man, don't even get me started on how most modern-day Christians act! Here in Puerto Rico, a VERY Christian island, you would expect the vast majority of people to be decent, right? Nothing could be further from the truth. People here are generally deceitful, hate-filled bigots who would rather spit on you if you don't fit into their narrow vision of "faith". They're some of the worst drivers I've ever encountered as well, and let's not forget that Puerto Rico has the sixth highest murder rate in the world. Christ-like? Not in your life. They blame poverty and government corruption for the terrible society, and when that falls apart, they blame decadence. Excuses, excuses, excuses...

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« Reply #162 on: October 21, 2007, 06:18:55 PM »
Somebody Photoshop Jesus Christ on a dollar and that's modern day Christianity for you.

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« Reply #163 on: October 21, 2007, 06:29:32 PM »
Ha ha no kidding, especially when you get into the evangelical territory.  I can't believe people listen to the TV evangelists.  Yes they are entertaining because you can point and laugh at them, but some people actually believe in what they are saying/doing.

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« Reply #164 on: October 21, 2007, 06:29:58 PM »
Oh man, don't even get me started on how most modern-day Christians act! Here in Puerto Rico, a VERY Christian island, you would expect the vast majority of people to be decent, right? Nothing could be further from the truth. People here are generally deceitful, hate-filled bigots who would rather spit on you if you don't fit into their narrow vision of "faith". They're some of the worst drivers I've ever encountered as well, and let's not forget that Puerto Rico has the sixth highest murder rate in the world. Christ-like? Not in your life. They blame poverty and government corruption for the terrible society, and when that falls apart, they blame decadence. Excuses, excuses, excuses...

Lets not forget they also toss hundreds of pets from a bridge for the sake of "pest control" on your wonderful quaint little island of the damned...awesome stuff for sure.