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Turbo D

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Re: Religion
« Reply #195 on: October 22, 2007, 06:57:27 PM »
don't feel bad man, I listen to my dick all the time too  :wink:

Hobo Xiphas

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Re: Religion
« Reply #196 on: October 22, 2007, 07:11:43 PM »
Dick's my friend!  He's just not good at philosophy.  [-(

Here he is in his younger days:


Kitsunexus

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Re: Religion
« Reply #197 on: October 22, 2007, 07:27:53 PM »
This thread is absolutely f*cking retarded.
It is and i wounder why it hasn't died yet.

Keranu forgot how to lock threads. :P

Keranu

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« Reply #198 on: October 22, 2007, 07:33:39 PM »
Which is better, the Bible or the Quran?  Which one is more correct?  Which one is wrong?  They both can't be right.

I recommend watching the infamous debate between Jimmy Swaggart and Ahmed Deedat. I think every Muslim got a good laugh at Swaggart's bullshit story at the end :lol: .

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Thanks for the quote :D ! Actually I'm aware of this quote already.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #199 on: October 22, 2007, 07:55:53 PM »
This thread is absolutely f*cking retarded.
It is and i wounder why it hasn't died yet.

Keranu forgot how to lock threads. :P

Well, I for one was just waiting for the thread to get out of control before I locked it up but we should be able to talk about religion in a civilized manner....
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ParanoiaDragon

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Re: Religion
« Reply #200 on: October 22, 2007, 08:01:00 PM »
Therefore, they'd be robots in disguise :dance:



BTW, Romans 5:12 -just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned

Interesting scripture! This seems to support the idea of "spiritual death" I mentioned earlier.

ParanoiaD, thanks for your comments on 1914, by the way. I've been meaning to reply.

I personally believe it refers to a physical death.  I believe we are all sinners, since we all fall to temptation, & make mistakes.  And I believe, that when we die, we basically go to sleep(sheol/hades/hell/the common grave of mankind), rather then having a spiritual soul that goes to heaven, or a firey hell(which became Christian doctrine somewhere around the 3rd Century AD).  For instance, Ecclesiastes 9:5: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.”  Ecclesiastes 9:10: “All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol, the place to which you are going.”  Ezekial 18:4: “The soul that is sinning—it itself will die.”  Even animals are called "lving souls"

At Genesis 2:7 it says "the man came to be a living soul" rather then saying he was given a soul.  I believe however, that after Armageddon, people that died, that only went to the "grave", will be resurrected to everlasting life on a paradise earth.

Oh, & back to temptation, & Adam & Eve sinning.  They were perfect when they sinned, which means they would have to sin on purpose.  They clearly chose to sin.  I've never been perfect, as like everyone else, am a sinner.  So, for me to sin, is a competely different story on it's own.  Jesus, was born perfect, & never sinned, but, saw what it was like, to have temptations, especially when Satan offered him all the nations of the world, if Jesus would do an act of obeisance to him, because Satan has complete control over the nations of the world.  But he resisted, unlike Adam & Eve.  And eventually, he was killed as a perfect man, as a sacrifice, to give us a chance to get back what Adam & Eve had screwed up.

Also, I should mention, I hold no ill feelings toward anyone here, we all have our own beliefs, & that's just life.  But, I've always wondered why people who don't believe in God, seem to get mad(correct me if I'm wrong), just because someone else does believe in God?  It's one thing to state what you believe, but it's another to put other's down for their beliefs.  Can't we all just........get along? :D
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Kitsunexus

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Re: Religion
« Reply #201 on: October 22, 2007, 08:05:32 PM »
Well, I for one was just waiting for the thread to get out of control before I locked it up but we should be able to talk about religion in a civilized manner....


IS THAT A CHALLENGE!? :twisted:

Hobo Xiphas

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« Reply #202 on: October 22, 2007, 08:06:22 PM »
Also, I should mention, I hold no ill feelings toward anyone here, we all have our own beliefs, & that's just life.  But, I've always wondered why people who don't believe in God, seem to get mad(correct me if I'm wrong), just because someone else does believe in God?

I, for one, am tired of people trying to convert me to their religion.  I don't mention my religious beliefs at all, but some jerk always comes along and yells how great their religion is in my face constantly.  After years of that, yeah, you tend to get bitter towards religion.

Also, I find it hilarious that religious people have a persecution complex when they are in a supermajority my country.  You evil atheists are oppressing us, despite the fact that 90+% of people believe in god!  :-({|=

ParanoiaDragon

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« Reply #203 on: October 22, 2007, 08:11:19 PM »
I'm not trying to convert anybody.  People convert themselves to whatever they want in life, as always, we have free will.  And I'm obviously talking abou threads, & how, atleast I try to remain on a, mmm, not sure what to call it, but, let's say neutral stance.  I'm not saying my religion is the greatest, I'm only saying what I believe.  But, it always seems like Atheists tend to put me down, just for my beliefs.  If I was putting them down, then I would expect the same back, but I don't put Atheists down.  I could even do an example of how I would sit here & say blah blah blah, Atheists, ha ha ha, blah blah.  What would be the point?  :-({|=

BTW, who said anything about Atheists being evil?  That's far from the truth.  Being Atheist doesn't make anyone evil.  Atleast, that's what I believe.



Also, if you have people yelling at you about how great their religion is, then yes, I can deffinitly understand why someone would be bitter.  There are a few Christian religions that tend to get........over zealous, about us being wrong, & them being right.  It's annoying, so, I deffintly understand.
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Kitsunexus

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Re: Religion
« Reply #204 on: October 22, 2007, 08:17:10 PM »
I sincerely honestly believe that you are all idiots.



















































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Hobo Xiphas

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« Reply #205 on: October 22, 2007, 08:18:26 PM »
I'm not talkin' about anyone in particular, especially here since you guys are generally cool about such things.

Except for rag-time4, who is a complete jerk.  I don't care about religion as long as you don't use it to declare your superiority over another group, who happen to be 51% of the population.

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« Reply #206 on: October 22, 2007, 08:19:35 PM »
I have yet to see anyone in this thread, that I think is an idiot, whether it be me, or you.  It's all good. 8)

Cool, glad I'm not offending.  I sometimes worry that I am :?

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« Reply #207 on: October 22, 2007, 08:31:17 PM »
I have yet to see anyone in this thread, that I think is an idiot, whether it be me, or you.  It's all good. 8)

FOR IDIOTS.





























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Seriously.  :P

Joe Redifer

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Re: Religion
« Reply #208 on: October 22, 2007, 09:06:53 PM »
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Oh, & back to temptation, & Adam & Eve sinning.  They were perfect when they sinned, which means they would have to sin on purpose.


We all sin on purpose.  Who sins on accident?  Can you imagine trying to tell that to the police?  "LOL, officer.  It was an accident that I stole this car.  I thought it was mine!!!1!!"  Then the officer would reply "OMG u r soooo rite!  LOLOLOLOL!!!!!1!!"

ParanoiaDragon

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Re: Religion
« Reply #209 on: October 22, 2007, 09:27:08 PM »
Uh, I don't sin on purpose.  If I ran out on my wife, I can pretty much guarentee that would be on purpose, cuz I'd have to force myself to do it.  But, when I look at another woman, I'm not doing it on purpsose, it's just imperfection kicking in, & it's something I fight.  If I don't fight, I keep looking, which can lead to me leaving my wife to go park the car in somebody else's garage.