Religion

[_joshuaTurbo]

Hey Joe, Packers @ Broncos <-Monday Night Football!!

I bet my Packers beat up on your Little Pony's!!

[rag-time4]

I recommend watching the infamous

debate between Jimmy Swaggart and Ahmed Deedat. I think every Muslim got a good laugh at Swaggart's bullshit story at the end .

Keranu, thanks for posting this video. I'm just wrapping it up. I actually heard about it years ago but never took the time to watch it until now.

According to Jimmy Swaggart, us Muslims pray in the name of our prophets .

Do you think that Swaggart said that out of ignorance or do you think his did it intentionally? I think it's too bad that brother Ahmed Deedat didn't make Swaggart's mistake clear, for the benefit of Swaggart's constituency.

One thing I thought was interesting was that at the end of part 10, there are photos of a couple Muslims shown, including brother Khallid Muhammad from the Nation of Islam. Any idea what that was all about?

I have a couple of brother Khallid's debates on VHS tape. He did one against pastor Chuck Singleton of loveland baptist church on the same topic (is bible the unaltered word of God), and a very interesting panel discussion with 2 Jewish brothers on the meaning of "God's chosen people".

[Keranu]

I think Swaggart completely made up that story. I doubt you could find one Muslim on the planet that would ever "pray in the name of Muhammad". Notice how Swaggart didn't even attempt to refute Deedat's final rebuttal and instead made up a story about how Jesus can save lives just to make his case look good. From what I recall, the debate ended after Deedat's story leaving Deedat no time to comment on it, but I'm sure he has pointed it out in other debates of his.

Sometimes famous religious people attend the debates and they are shown on the camera. I remember seeing Yusuf Islam in another Deedat debate against Anis Shorrosh.

[Joe Redifer]

Hey Joe, Packers @ Broncos <-Monday Night Football!!

I bet my Packers beat up on your Little Pony's!!

I remember the Broncos handing it to the Packers in a certain Superbowl.  Many tears fell in Packer-land.

[rag-time4]

I think Swaggart completely made up that story. I doubt you could find one Muslim on the planet that would ever "pray in the name of Muhammad". Notice how Swaggart didn't even attempt to refute Deedat's final rebuttal and instead made up a story about how Jesus can save lives just to make his case look good. From what I recall, the debate ended after Deedat's story leaving Deedat no time to comment on it, but I'm sure he has pointed it out in other debates of his.

Sometimes famous religious people attend the debates and they are shown on the camera. I remember seeing Yusuf Islam in another Deedat debate against Anis Shorrosh.

I think in both cases (Muslim prayer and Jesus saving lives) Swaggart was using standard rhetoric to appeal to his own constituency.

Obviously, any Muslim knows that we don't pray in the name of Muhammad. As Brother Deedat said again and again: "In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Most Gracious"(I think that was his translation)

But Swaggart's constituency may not know that. I think it may have been said above somewhere that Allah seals the hearts and ears of those whom he pleases... so what are the factors involved that would cause Swaggart's constituency to believe something that is an obvious lie/error? (Muslims pray in the name of Muhammad)

[Keranu]

But Swaggart's constituency may not know that. I think it may have been said above somewhere that Allah seals the hearts and ears of those whom he pleases... so what are the factors involved that would cause Swaggart's constituency to believe something that is an obvious lie/error? (Muslims pray in the name of Muhammad)

I think it's very possible that Swaggart wasn't aware that Muslims don't pray in the name of Muhammad (saw), but regardless I think he purposely made up the story anyways just to make him look good.

[Joe Redifer]

Muhammad (saw)

I would personally appreciate it if they'd stop making those dumb Saw movies every 6 months.  Do people really enjoy that crap?

[_joshuaTurbo]

I would personally appreciate it if they'd stop making those dumb Saw movies every 6 months.

The Saw movies are just trying to catch up to the Mario Party games.

Many tears fell in Packer-land.

 

[guyjin]

Muhammad (saw)

I would personally appreciate it if they'd stop making those dumb Saw movies every 6 months.  Do people really enjoy that crap?

they're trying to recreate the 80's horror flick feel, like friday the 13th. Like that series, they probably won't really hit their stride until #5 or 6.

[Hobo Xiphas]

I always root for the Denver Broncos, though it may be a lost cause this year.

There is always ROCKTOBER

But seriously, you most really be barfing your brains out from hearing that awful pun so much

[Joe Redifer]

They've been making that pun around here for nearly a month now.

[nodtveidt]

I am God.

[Kitsunexus]

they're trying to recreate the 80's horror flick feel, like friday the 13th. Like that series, they probably won't really hit their stride until #5 or 6.

Then perhaps I'm mistaken, because I took it as shitty art-house horror with buckets of gore.

[Michael Helgeson]

Ehh I thought the Saw stuff was ok,so far.

[Necromancer]

I am God.

No you're not..... you're Göd!