Author Topic: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?  (Read 1349 times)

SignOfZeta

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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2012, 01:21:45 PM »
I think "lazy" is probably the best way to sum it up. After the merger of PayPal and eBay and eBay becoming so sophisticated that you never actually have to send or receive actual correspondence from anyone, people started to become more and more reluctant to do anything but single click transactions.

When you are shipping internationally the seller has no idea what shipping is going to cost until someone eventually wins the auction and then he has to take the package to the post office and get a price...but not actually ship the package. Then he has to tell the buyer what its going to cost, then he goes back and ships the package once its paid. An easy way around this is to just quote a huge figure that you know will cover shipping. This serves two functions; it scares away cheap-asses and it makes sure you are covered as the seller. Of course, when you are selling rinky dink bullshit like $1 PC Engine games or Magic cards that doesn’t work so well.

In the early days of eBay, when the only way to contact a seller was via personal email, payment was by check or money order, etc, everything took more time but in these days of instant gratification for buyer and seller, with nobody having any patience whatsoever (WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DIDN'T SHIP FOR THREE DAYS!?!?) and, worst of all, high volume sellers and %90 of eBay being a store rather than an auction house, nobody wants to deal with it anymore.

ProfessorProfessorson sells a lot of stuff on eBay and apparently he gets ass f*cked every week or two doing it so I'm sure his experience is significant genuine and valuable, but it also seems to be absolute worst case scenario. He has f*cking terrible luck. I don’t know if its what he’s selling or what, but his struggle is borderline Dickensian.

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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2012, 01:24:31 PM »
There is no need for all that agression. I said i ment no offense with lazy. I was simply being objective and i also said im lazy too. So if thats an accusation to you, im just as guilty as im lazy too sometimes. Feel free to correct me, and disagree with me, but at least be civilized about it..

You are actually assuming and making the same accusations you claim i have, and in a very agressive manner. I have not done so, i stated clearly i wanted people to comment their disagreements as well. I dont need my head bit off by some disgruntled overly agressive american who cant read, or read stuff between the lines which actually isnt there.

Im not here to annoy you or anyone else, i was simply trying to get a discussion going. Aparently i failed horribly but i dont need to be punished this harsly in a very abusive way by you for it. You could simply have said all that in a much more civilized way. ESPECIALLY if you felt insulted by what i had to say. Now you are just as big a dickhead as you claim i am. You preach on how i cant judge anything about people in USA, yet you judge me, personally quite freely.

You sit there like a dick and accuse people of being lazy and prejudice on a wide scale, and don't think that will come off as a insult, because you by your own words are "lazy". Yeah buddy, it doesn't work like that. The level of laziness you are accusing others of being is a bit different then the one you are labeling yourself with. As far as judging goes, I call it like I see it, you're being a naive brat with no understanding of the world, wanting to know why things cant happen exactly the way they want them to, all because they suddenly want to buy sum moar rarez vidya gamez, ammarite? Without the sudden ravenous urge to spend money and import more and more games, you'd not have even have experienced this epiphany of yours compelling you to bother other sellers on this forum about your sudden real world problems, no?

I'm making no assumptions about anything here, you're the dumb ass that decided to post bullshit, then decided to reply with accusations and more bullshit. Your own words are what we have to go by here. It's impossible to mis-read into your post about laziness, how you feel others stated "hassles" here are not legitimate reasons, and how you think everyone is xenophobic, when in reality, they simply don't care to deal with bull shit. You should simply just shut your mouth now. As I said, its not even your place, business, or right even, to question as to why, or try to debate with or convince them to do otherwise. No one anywhere owes you any kind of explanation at all.

Lots of dumb bullshit all while trying to sound clever and all knowing because I am above it all.....

Once I stopped selling out of the country my problems with sales went down to maybe one or two a month, if that, and those problems are usually due to USPS, not the buyer, except on a rare occasion where I run into a nut job. My worst enemy was never the buyer anyway, most bad deals came from shity sellers who did not deliver as described, etc, most of them as of which are not even on ebay now. I'm not exactly the only person to even have issues like that, regardless of little boy Zeta being f*cking master of power metal assumptions about me, as always. Most either don't state their experiences here, or don't deal much. Jump on over to Digital Press and check the ebay black list thread, and you'll see 24 pages of horror stories from many regular members there. At any rate, as always Zeta, you are full of shit. Thanks for never changing. Always good to know who the most useless sack of shit in a room is at any given moment.
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SignOfZeta

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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2012, 01:47:13 PM »
What did I say that wasn't true?

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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2012, 02:08:24 PM »
and now we have two enemies against one person.

ProfessorProfessorson

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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2012, 02:17:52 PM »
What did I say that wasn't true?

Whenever is anything you say not mostly bullshit, mixed in with assumptions about others while maintaining one or two widely known facts? SignOfZeta, the proverbial calling card of some misinformed nobody trying to carry on in a nonchalant manner during a discussion, debate, or argument, all while not having half a f*cking clue about what they are talking about. And what little they do have a clue about is the f*cking obvious.


Typically any debate involving a SignOfZeta post reads out like this:

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I'm f*cking sick of of all the dirge Capcom makes anymore, and about the way Ubisofts DRM is f*cking up the buyers pc gaming experience.

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Yeah man, I am sick of it too. Half the time I tried to play Hawx 2 the damn game couldn't connect to their servers so I couldn't play my pc copy of it.

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Oh yeah man that Ubisoft DRM crap is horrible. And I mean jesus, Capcom last team based Resident Evil title was just in a dire need of actual excitement being injected into it. It was a total snorefest.

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I dont really know you, or anything about you Applesofhope, but I dont agree with anything you said. I love everything Capcom makes, all their games are great. If you'd like I can discuss them for hours on my podcast. Ubisofts DRM is cool, they are just trying to protect their buyers and their IP. While I don't know ProfessorProfessorson all that well, and he hasn't even posted in this thread, and it has nothing to do with anything, I'm going to toss out a few of my opinions about him too that have nothing to do with anything, or even describe him or his ebay transactions even remotely accurate.

Also, I hate the f*cking US military. They rape murder and plunder everything all the time and stuff. I don't ever go out of my way to help the needy. If they didn't need anything they wouldn't be so needy all the time. I don't approve of them being so needy, or approve of charity, or Christmas, or family values. I will probably die alone. Everyone will miss me and my podcast. In the end I will show'em. And Nat should never have bought that Might and Magic 3. Not my business, but I think he is a moron for doing so. Also, you guys probably didn't know this, but vitamin C prevents scurvy and the sky is totally f*cking blue.

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You're a dumbf*ck.

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What did I say that wasn't true? Vitamin C does prevent scurvy.


SignOfZeta

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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2012, 02:42:22 PM »
You sure bring a lot of baggage with you from post to post, ProfessorProfessorson. I asked a simple question and you typed up all that stuff without even addressing it, let alone answering it. I don't like Christmas? I love DRM? Those are not only hilariously inaccurate statements but they also have nothing to do whatsoever with shipping things on eBay. I do hate war, that much is true.

Since getting f*cked on eBay and being the self appointed protector of all retro-gaming internet transactions, one would think you'd be dying to stay on topic for once. I guess you are more interested in flaming than anything.

To sum it up: Shipping outside of the US is a lot more work than not doing it. This answers the original poster's question. Your explanation says pretty much the same thing, but with a lot more fire and brimstone because you come from circumstances and can't afford your pills right now.

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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2012, 02:42:51 PM »
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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2012, 02:54:18 PM »
Being in Canada, I don't (can't) refuse international customers without cutting out half of my potential customers.  However, I'll only ship to the original 50 States.  I refuse to ship to Puerto Rico because of one bad transaction I had with someone there.  The thing that usually kills my auctions is shipping.  The price of shipping anything within, or outside of Canada is ridiculous.
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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2012, 02:57:40 PM »
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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2012, 03:01:52 PM »
In my experiences on the bay, I still ship overseas but make sure to put an disclaimer in my auctions that state:

The above price for shipping is within the continental United States ONLY!  If you are an international buyer please contact us before bidding so I can properly calculate shipping.
This for the most part has halted any real issues I've had with selling/shipping to the moon.  This allows me to tell them before the auction ends that this will cost $$(Brazilian) dollars extra.  Most times they back off then.

You sure bring a lot of baggage with you from post to post, ProfessorProfessorson. I asked a simple question and you typed up all that stuff without even addressing it, let alone answering it. I don't like Christmas? I love DRM? Those are not only hilariously inaccurate statements but they also have nothing to do whatsoever with shipping things on eBay. I do hate war, that much is true.

Since getting f*cked on eBay and being the self appointed protector of all retro-gaming internet transactions, one would think you'd be dying to stay on topic for once. I guess you are more interested in flaming than anything.


The f*ck you talking about!?!?!  This cannot be allowed on Helga's watch. 

What a gas.

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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2012, 03:44:12 PM »
You sure bring a lot of baggage with you from post to post, ProfessorProfessorson. I asked a simple question and you typed up all that stuff without even addressing it, let alone answering it. I don't like Christmas? I love DRM? Those are not only hilariously inaccurate statements but they also have nothing to do whatsoever with shipping things on eBay. I do hate war, that much is true.

Since getting f*cked on eBay and being the self appointed protector of all retro-gaming internet transactions, one would think you'd be dying to stay on topic for once. I guess you are more interested in flaming than anything.

To sum it up: Shipping outside of the US is a lot more work than not doing it. This answers the original poster's question. Your explanation says pretty much the same thing, but with a lot more fire and brimstone because you come from circumstances and can't afford your pills right now.

I did address it, you are full of shit, going on about my current ebay sales, which you know nothing about, nor how well they are going, yet feel the need to state "apparently he gets ass f*cked every week or two doing it so I'm sure". I pointed out as much, that you just talk a bunch of bullshit no matter what the subject of the argument or debate is, and you just drag on and on. Making it more pathetic, you're not even passionate about any given subject, wrong or right, because you clearly have no f*cking heart as it were. You just jump in for the sake of it half the time, making flat statements of bullshit and assumptions and opinions fueled by personal grudges you hold, mixed in with widely known fact, all blended together nicely to become a Zeta cocktail.

Especially on this one, as always you know much of nothing, but feel the need to chime in anyway with your little nose up my butt, then end it with a bit of "oh lets see how clever and poetic I can be on my post concerning Michael" and now you want to bitch about me not staying on topic? You use me and my supposed current sales issues you imagined up that you think I am having every other week to make your argument. You don't have a f*cking clue and shouldn't even be using me to make your case. You want to join in and make a case, then speak about your own legitimate seller experiences then, don't go f*cking making shit up about others on the fly to make a point. Like I said, you are a worthless sack of shit.

And for the record, I went to bat for plenty of people who had issues with sellers on here. I had no problems pointing out bad sellers on here either from my own experiences. I don't anymore because I dont deal with TG/PCE related sellers anymore. I've done more then my fair share to help others resolve problems and to help spread the word about problematic sellers. WTF have you done to contribute to anything Zeta? Oh wait, that's right, there's that one time you waited until way after the fact to podcast about Redfrog, repeating everything I already said prior, passing it off as your own words. Totally useless you are, on all damn counts.

The f*ck you talking about!?!?!  This cannot be allowed on Helga's watch. 

Cheat on anymore spouses lately? Rip off anyone else lately with some of your kids sandpaper special ebay deals? Better yet, when is your next mental breakdown due so we know when to avoid Fighting Street, lest you decide to post more nearly naked fat harry homo pics from your personal collection. You and Zeta, I swear, almost a day doesn't go by where I'll post on here and you two got your nose up my butt in some manner or another. In your case Shags its even funnier, because you have this thing for white knighting, only to have it backfire on you.


SignOfZeta

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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2012, 04:01:52 PM »
Damn dude.

Too much red meat, or something...

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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2012, 07:32:25 PM »
I haven't had so much trouble with people from the US as I've had trouble with people from UK not wanting to ship to Sweden. Then again, I rarely buy things from the US because of shipping and customs. I won some sweet raffles when I first joined (Sapphire bootleg and Gate of Thunder) and sadly they seem to have gotten lost somewhere. :(
So, grimm, I know your pain. Visst suger det :(


Then you must be pretty well off, or really focused on game purchases compared to other expenses.. Even with import related costs i never pay prices asked in sweden, or most of europe, as opposed to US and Japan. Its always a savings even with all costs added in.


Actually, buying used games from UK can be a real bargain. Check out Amazon UK and take a look at some of the used games. Some of them are practically given away if it weren't for shipping. Fancy some Ridge Racer7 for your PS3? Used games starts at £2.78. Maybe you'd rather like RR V for the PS2 instead? Now we're down to £0.01
It's fantastic! Of course, this only appy to PAL-releases but still.
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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2012, 07:59:48 PM »
I'm posting here so I can easily come back and read the fallout later.

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Re: More and more people refuse international customers. Why is that?
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2012, 08:05:11 PM »
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