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Re: Have you LOST any auctions lately?
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2012, 10:54:15 AM »
That is what I do also wait until the last minute and then bid and I bid the max amunt I want to spend on the item.

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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2012, 04:06:20 PM »
Oh no I was watching an Ebay sale for Splatterhouse and it ended with no bids shipping was 3.00 and startin bid was .99 it included the box manual, sleeve and the game. I can not believe it for got about it

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« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2012, 02:15:05 PM »
Its interesting how yahoo auctions japan does it.... it seems like if someone bids in the last 5 minutes, they add another 10 minutes to the auction.  Eliminates snipers :)
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Re: Have you LOST any auctions lately?
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2012, 07:20:48 PM »
I keep losing FDS lots. They are always random lots of games and what interests me is that they could be dead disks or rewritten and are usually not even official nintendo disks but people bid them up. I guess i'm not the only one interested to find out what's on them.
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« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2012, 12:44:06 AM »
Its interesting how yahoo auctions japan does it.... it seems like if someone bids in the last 5 minutes, they add another 10 minutes to the auction.  Eliminates snipers :)

I think that's a great way to deal with snipers.  I wish ebay had the option of listing items that way.  As it is, if you want to win an auction, sniping is pretty much a necessity.

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Re: Have you LOST any auctions lately?
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2012, 01:10:26 PM »
I love sniping, that is the best way to win, that way their is no bidding war and end up paying too much.

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« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2012, 07:13:36 AM »
Its interesting how yahoo auctions japan does it.... it seems like if someone bids in the last 5 minutes, they add another 10 minutes to the auction.  Eliminates snipers :)

I think that's a great way to deal with snipers.  I wish ebay had the option of listing items that way.  As it is, if you want to win an auction, sniping is pretty much a necessity.

If an auction has an end time, it has an end time. Prolonging just because some people want to continue bidding is more unfair than being outsniped. Sniping has little to do with unfair play, and more to do with sticking with your initial maximum bid, keeping from paying too much just because you get excited, and keeps prices from being driven up unecessarily. Its good for everyone. I sincerely hope ebay will not introduce something like what yahoo auctions in japan has.

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Re: Have you LOST any auctions lately?
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2012, 08:52:21 AM »
Its interesting how yahoo auctions japan does it.... it seems like if someone bids in the last 5 minutes, they add another 10 minutes to the auction.  Eliminates snipers :)

I think that's a great way to deal with snipers.  I wish ebay had the option of listing items that way.  As it is, if you want to win an auction, sniping is pretty much a necessity.

If an auction has an end time, it has an end time. Prolonging just because some people want to continue bidding is more unfair than being outsniped. Sniping has little to do with unfair play, and more to do with sticking with your initial maximum bid, keeping from paying too much just because you get excited, and keeps prices from being driven up unecessarily. Its good for everyone. I sincerely hope ebay will not introduce something like what yahoo auctions in japan has.

Well if they did introduce it, at least make it optional.  From a sellers point of view it would be a benefit.  Buyers, maybe not so much.
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Re: Have you LOST any auctions lately?
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2012, 11:02:08 AM »
If an auction has an end time, it has an end time. Prolonging just because some people want to continue bidding is more unfair than being outsniped.

To be fair, what yahoo is doing is basically the way real auctions have always worked.

Sniping is nice for the buyer who actually wins: when an item has a vague market value, forced end-times and sniping can prevent the value from being driven up by too many bids. People snipe because it works and it can get you things for less. For the seller, though, and for the bidder who would have paid more if only given the chance, it can feel a bit like a cheat.

Part of a seller's incentive for putting an item up at a very low starting price and giving buyers a shot at a good deal is that those same buyers might bid it way up. Forced end times damage some of that potential. That's why I bet that if ebay did implement postponed end-times, you would probably see lower starting prices all around.

You'd think that ebay would realize that extending auction times would mean higher end prices and bigger cuts for them. Oh well.

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« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2012, 12:15:58 PM »
But the way real auctions work is not possible on the internet. You need to have it end one time or another. A real auction house does not have millions of potential bidders attending the auction. Ebay and other auction sites do.

If you feel cheated, then raise your maximum bid to actually become your maximum bid. anything else is just desperation bidding. If a seller feels cheated well tough luck, put a reserve price and guard yourself from "too low" a price. If you dont want to sell your Rolls Royce for .99 cents, dont start it at .99, and out a reserve price. Problem for the seller solved.

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Re: Have you LOST any auctions lately?
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2012, 01:04:40 PM »
But the way real auctions work is not possible on the internet. You need to have it end one time or another. A real auction house does not have millions of potential bidders attending the auction. Ebay and other auction sites do.

If you feel cheated, then raise your maximum bid to actually become your maximum bid. anything else is just desperation bidding. If a seller feels cheated well tough luck, put a reserve price and guard yourself from "too low" a price. If you dont want to sell your Rolls Royce for .99 cents, dont start it at .99, and out a reserve price. Problem for the seller solved.

Or....stop crying and get over it.   :mrgreen:

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Re: Have you LOST any auctions lately?
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2012, 03:10:14 PM »
If an auction has an end time, it has an end time. Prolonging just because some people want to continue bidding is more unfair than being outsniped. Sniping has little to do with unfair play, and more to do with sticking with your initial maximum bid, keeping from paying too much just because you get excited, and keeps prices from being driven up unecessarily. Its good for everyone. I sincerely hope ebay will not introduce something like what yahoo auctions in japan has.
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Sniping is nice for the buyer who actually wins: when an item has a vague market value, forced end-times and sniping can prevent the value from being driven up by too many bids. People snipe because it works and it can get you things for less. For the seller, though, and for the bidder who would have paid more if only given the chance, it can feel a bit like a cheat.

Part of a seller's incentive for putting an item up at a very low starting price and giving buyers a shot at a good deal is that those same buyers might bid it way up. Forced end times damage some of that potential. That's why I bet that if ebay did implement postponed end-times, you would probably see lower starting prices all around.

It's a moot point because no one auctions anything anyway. Sellers already have all of the chips on their side of the table - it's called Buy It Now. Current U.S. Ebay auctions for "Turbo Grafx" in the video games category = 185. BIN listings = 1,307. No forced end times! "Vague market value"? Who cares - shoot for the moon and gouge the heck out of everything! Let those games automatically re-list for years! Or use the recommended pricing Ebay provides to sellers when listings are created (which, btw, happens to have a longer date range than the the completed listing search commonly used by buyers).

Even when video games are auctioned, winning bids below the "market value" are not a common occurrence. First, the thrifty buyer has to wait two months until a seller has the guts to list one of our coveted games in an actual auction with a non-gouging starting point; even then, bidding typically goes to astronomical levels. Thus our patient gamer has to wait even longer, perhaps six to eighteen months, for the stars to align and a rare Turbo game with a low starting price to be listed in an auction that is somewhat poorly described or photographed, creating a lack of early bidding that lulls the noobs into a false sense of security and enables one to snipe the shit out of them before they have a chance to check their credit card balance and revise bids.

Seriously, that's what it takes to get a good deal on ebay these days. It's been a sellers' market ever since BIN's begun to outnumber auctions in the mid-2000's. Buyers are screwed and sniping is one of the last tools left to the honest gamer. Everyone has the chance to bid whatever a game is worth to them and no one can take that away. The only thing sniping does is take away the chance for noobs and speculators to reconsider their baseless appraisals.

Finally, f*ck "market value."
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Re: Have you LOST any auctions lately?
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2012, 04:27:11 PM »
The only thing sniping does is take away the chance for noobs and speculators to reconsider their baseless appraisals.

Finally, f*ck "market value."

Agreed.  As an occasional seller, I'd love the option to list an auction that automatically extends time to prevent sniping, but as a buyer I wouldn't put much faith in winning that type because a noob without any prior knowledge of the worth of this stuff would easily and happily outbid me in a heartbeat.

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Re: Have you LOST any auctions lately?
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2012, 04:49:26 PM »
Sniping still works to a point in an extend-an-auction setup.  You may slip a winning bid in on something and the other bidder might not notice theyve been outbid.  Ive had this happen on a few yahoo jp auctions.
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Re: Have you LOST any auctions lately?
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2012, 04:57:45 PM »
Sniping still works to a point in an extend-an-auction setup.  You may slip a winning bid in on something and the other bidder might not notice theyve been outbid.  Ive had this happen on a few yahoo jp auctions.

Makes sense.  I rarely stick around to watch an auction end.  I usually set my high bid via a sniping app and forget about it (because I typically don't win).  If an auction were to auto-extend, and if you were intent in winning, you'd have to be there to outbid snipers.  Interesting.